Question for ATS members - Facebook or "Conspiracy" Book?

Thanks everyone for your input on this question.

An improved/expanded social component of ATS is in the works for soon-after ATS.2010 launches. Our thoughts are to provide a safe, secure, and private channel for anyone and everyone concerned about the "troubling" aspect of the situations we face in contemporary society. It would provide for everything from a better-integrated ATS member profile page, to a full-featured online gathering place where no user data is ever shared outside the network.

We're also looking at a simple Facebook Fan page that has no "share" button code integrated into ATS. This would be nothing more than a method to reach out to existing Facebook users so that they become more aware of what's happening here.

It's too soon to guess on the timing, but it's certainly on the list of next-steps.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Would you purging the data that is gathered on the network at some point?

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord It would provide for everything from a better-integrated ATS member profile page, to a full-featured online gathering place where no user data is ever shared outside the network.

Will we have options of varying privacy levels? Perhaps the ability to share real name/personal details with friends and still be able to maintain anonymity on the boards?

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Just like things such as X-Factor, Pop Idol, American Idol - people are easily led and are like Sheep.

Although, Facebook is a great tool for contactinng friends, but to contact friends everyday, even at work - its that over the top? People don't ask themselves that question though because everyone else around them is doing it...Sheep basically when you get down to the nitty critty.

Originally posted by prionace glauca
Would you purging the data that is gathered on the network at some point?

Not sure what you mean. Since we wouldn't be "gathering" data, there shouldn't be anything to purge.

Originally posted by riley
Perhaps the ability to share real name/personal details with friends and still be able to maintain anonymity on the boards?

Yes. However, we're looking at methods that would allow this level of sharing that is not ultimately stored on whatever server manages the social network.

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Hey Skeptic I was reffering to,

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...to a full-featured online gathering place where no user data is ever shared outside the network.

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though I might have confused your post with information solely for identifying the users to access the site.

great idea,but why not call it truth seekers. i bet ats will grow bigger than cnn the news gets here faster than any msm and the the topics coverd they wont touch. but security must be maintained. maybe move the servers to the cayman islands somewhere off the grid. get gansta's and/or bikers to work security.

"viva la revolution"

[edit on 20-5-2010 by gaurdian2012]

I have been taking IT classes at Seattle Central Community College. There is one instructor there who is rabid on the subject of the inherent lack of security features of the current internet technologies.

I would never post anything on the internet of a strictly private nature, yet I am more or less forced to use it for some financial transactions. This is, I have been told, a really unwise practice.

So we use the internet for things it wasn't really designed for because it's so damned convenient and also because it is more or less being foisted on us as the new communication medium of choice.

I have a Facebook page, but I don't really understand what Facebook is good for. I guess it's sort of like email on steroids or something. My major internet communication channel is my email account, and I KNOW that it's not really secure, even though password protected, because the data is transmitted and stored as plain text.

What I would support would be an internet service that made sense to me, that I could easily figure out how to use, and that would really assist me to share interests with others and collaborate on projects. I can't even tell you how I would expect it to work, but one possible key difference would be that it would focus more on groups, subjects and activities and less on individuals, personalities, and glitz.

I will at least experiment with any ATS-sponsored application available on Facebook, with a few spectacular exceptions:

Will Jeff Zuckerberg (Facebook owner) be making money off of ATS? If yes, how much? The guy apparently reengineered the original software application of a group of Harvard students and then he renamed it as Facebook without their knowledge or consent. The reason I am making a Federal case about his behavior is because it Is a Federal case...about to go to trial in U.S. Federal court as a matter of fact.

I have very rarely used Facebook up to now, because of my concerns about the circumstances under which it was started, as well as its Pentagon funding, as previously discussed in ATS threads. Not a very encouraging combination of circumstances.

One start-off request: Please make it both possible and easy for me to permanently delete comments or threads in the ATS version of Facebook that I don't want to have online anymore. Trust must be earned.


[edit on 5/21/2010 by Uphill]

Ha! I do not have a FB page and I still would not get one even if ATS were involved, but not necessarily due to security reasons although it is a little bit of a plus to know about the differences between the policies of this site (ATS) as compared with others such as FB.

Now on the other hand, if ATS were to start their own kind of social networking site, not only would I sign up, I would tell others about it, too. Not only that but I would demand to be hired onto this project What a great way to invite other people into my world! By using a format similar to something they are used to, I believe this would attract many new users. In fact, it saddens me to think that such a deserving dream may never come to fruition, but you should be careful. This fits right in with the global awakening that has got tptb`s panties all in a bunch, so they may not like this one bit. Unless of course the "round up" rumors are true (referring to the theory that says that tptb treat sites like this as a way to find groups of people and stamp them out or keep under surveillance until further notice) ... But I tend to lean toward the idea that it would be worth it to have a chance to unite the people of our planet. The more I think about it, the more I start to realize that this is more than just the next logical step to take in our evolution, this is... DESTINY !!!1 :^)

I would prefer a Tinbook type rather than Facebook. I feel that privacy is not secure enough on facebook.

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I definetely would use "conspiracy book" if and then it comes available,
exellent idea!

Facebook nawh

Cheers

I am on Facebook but I hate it, and have availed myself of every possible privacy setting. I would absolutely prefer an ATS communication tool.

Me too.
I would invite friends who are more grown-up type. FreakBook is way to fashion-centered and invasive. It took me a helluva long time to delete an unknown "friend" who was merely trying to sell some multi-level marketing or pyramid business anyway and tried to sign up with every single person of the country where I live.
An adolescent would not mind if he or she is exposed with all their secrets. However, most sane grownups would.
When adolescents grow up to be twenty-five or more, they will regret having stated all they did of FB. But it would be too late.
FreakBook is not user-friendly from this point of view.

Someone's election for political office in 2012 could be stopped if the person has marked a known pot smoker in 2009, for example.

I second that it would be useful to be able to delete whatever you have added for yourself if you are the original user. Also, keep it simple and stupid... FB has all these folks marking they "liked" someone else's trivial remarks - which, if it falls into the hands of an agressive marketer, means you just cannot get to what you want in time since you waste your time clicking your mouse on the unwanted opinions of unknown people on trivial subjects. Plus they clog your email with repeat notes on all the correspondence any "friend" ever does. (Glad I created a separate account for that one - but I don't have the time to mark all messages as spam every day...) Please avoid that mistake and be discerning with email notices.

Conspiracy Book, clever!

It's great to want to create something more for sharing, There are some brilliant people here.

No doubt you could do something better than facebook. But purposefully,
another network, means less participation here?

I am a facebook/skype/a this or that chatboard widow. How much time can you ask me to spend, and will I, online? I've been reducing my social network, in order to be effective at one or two causes at a time.

That is the problem with facebook. It's another, albeit invasive social circle that hoards time.

After alot of research, a mail to a politician, etc., I go off to play. I see people around me are peaceful, not the top headlines about the economy collapsing, or think about the greed or power of those who try to enslave us. Sharpen my wit, and mostly desire human contact. Whatever it is, if you do, make it playful, or make it stimulating.

But don't cut off your nose to spite your foot :-)



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[edit on 27-5-2010 by tecumsah]

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This is an awesome idea! Hell yeah id use it, Nothing these days is private anymore.... it would be nice to get some of that privacy back.

Hey,

I am new here and I enjoy the site very much.

Here are a couple of opportunities for improvement I see. I do not even know if these things can be implemented, I am just submitting feedback.

1. Allow members to log-in and stay on the same page, instead of going directly to the main page and away from the page you were on and wanting to comment on.

2. Is there a way to track back directly to your own posts to see replies? Reddit has a members page that has a link directly to all of your own posts and emails you when you have a reply. I do not know if ATS has this function and I am just not seeing it.

There is my 2 cents worth.


Travis

im not sure if this has already been bought up, but i was would like to at the top of each page "how many people are reading this now" like some of the news sites do.

EG: On this news web site it tells you how many people are reading it


oops wrong thread again.. ill copy it to the right one

[edit on 31/5/10 by Whateva69]

Facebook is a joke! Its perfect for TPTB to use the tactics of identity fraud over FB member's profiles. I have people in my family who work as "White Coats" and I've been TOLD to stay very clear away from FB.

I go by my own saying "Keep low-profile and IF I want to contact somebody, I'l see them in person".

In all fairness its supposed to look harmless but I wouldn't trust it any day. At least with ATS is safer than most. Even though their are folks on here who comment who work for both sides at least in my opinion IF they wanted to have a meeting with a member here, you would have had a knock at your door by now.

ATS safety compared to FB is a lot blinking safer

[edit on 31-5-2010 by DClairvoyant]

reply to post by truthseeker1984
i totally, 100% agree w/you. social networking

- i have met some good people here but i did not join to socialize - besides when you take this little bit of information and put it w/this idea - stinks big time www.abovetopsecret.com... - kinda makes you wonder why ATS wants a "facebook" if not for data mining and other nefarious reason such as linking everything you say and do to another site - no - no - no -
extracting all your business and putting it out there - but, if you look at that little thread link above - ?????