Cocaine and Tobacco in anceint Egypt?

Originally posted by Harte
These mummies were almost certainly contaminated in Europe, somehow.

The only mummies that test positive spent some time there.

Harte

Originally posted by Harte
However, the fact that only mummies that spent time in Europe test positive must be explained.

How is it that only these Egyptians managed to get South American coc aine?

Harte

By insinuating that this is somehow a « European contamination problem », you must take the following into account:

There is no common origin for all « European » Egyptian mummies . The way these coc aine tainted mummies  have reached various museums in Germany, England and France during different time periods, from different dynasties, the way they have been transported, handled, cared for, etc, it is difficult to find a common denominator not found in any (North) American, Asian or Australian museum.

The mummies do not originate from a particular location in Egypt, in fact coc aine has been found in Sudanese mummies as well.

Contamination is of course the prime suspect in explaining this enigma, but studies performed by Svetla Babalova, Franz Parsche, W. Pirsig, Andreas Nerlish and also Rosalie David at the Manchester Museum shows this is not the case, contamination can practically be ruled out as cause.

Balabanova has also tested south American mummies (from cultures well known for their coca and tobacco use), and found (strangely) concentrations similar to the Egyptian ones. Larry Cartmell, Clinical Laboratory Director at the Valley View Hospital in Aida, Oklahoma and amateur archeologist, has been testing South American mummies for nicotine extensively. Cartmell has also tested Egyptian mummies and found nicotine levels similar to Balabanova's results. The levels are rather high and it is reasonable to believe mummies in both South America and Egypt were treated with nicotine during the embalming process.

Andreas Nerlich et. al. (1995), in a study evaluating the tissue pathology of an Egyptian mummy dating from approximately 950 B.C., found coc aine, nicotine and cannabis compounds in several of the mummy's organs.  They found the highest amounts of nicotine and coc aine in the mummy's stomach, and the cannabis traces primarily in the lungs.  Very similar results were again found in yet another study by Parsche and Nerlich. We can therefore speculate that the Cannabis was inhaled while the coca and tobacco was ingested.

As to why only European researchers have produced these results, there is no clear answer, but my personal guess is academic fear of ridicule. When Babalova first published her results she was violently attacked and to some extent ridiculed.
In 1995 Franz Parsche published an extensive study on pulmonary bleeding in a 3,000-year-old Egyptian mummy, and the analysis found significant traces of coc aine, nicotine, and cannabis compounds in the body. The scientific community chose to ignore the results, he was in fact stonewalled by foreign colleagues who by now had concluded that something must be rotten in the state of German toxicology. An independent research group with access to Egyptian mummies world wide could perhaps shed more light on this enigma.

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The Mystery Of The Cocaine Mummy full video was going to make a similar thread but this will do just fine.

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You may find this of interest

Studies on the drugs in mummies

Originally posted by Hanslune
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You may find this of interest

Studies on the drugs in mummies

Thanks for the link loads of info will require some serious leave me alone time to go through it all, I don't know if Iboga is mentioned in the link but like Ayahuasca of the Americas some powerful stuff used by priest in the Kongo/Great Lakes region.

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Have a study and let us known what you come up with. I read that link some years ago so a relook is in order