Hawaii governor announces 'exact' place of Obama birth. No wonder there is confusion!

Originally posted by Son of Will
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

Just curious, "what" exactly are you calling a lie? The claim that millions were spent on defense attorneys? Usually when you call someone a liar, it helps if you point out what you consider to be a lie...

[edit on 6-5-2010 by Son of Will]

Just curious why you do not just read the thread then?

Originally posted by anon72
reply to post by GovtFlu

 

Thats what I am saying. You just can't walk away from this one because it stinks of errors and deception.

Obama is making this worse by acting the way he is about it. Spending millions in atty fees for his defense. A little white lie has turned into a national Birther movement. Way to go Obama.

The lie is that he spent millions in defens of THIS TOPIC. When you ask someone a question, it helps if you read the context of what you are questioning.

I don't know if the gov. saying he was born at this hospital before they merged with the maternity center is exactly a lie. Anything that has been called something for 30 years might retain it's new name, even when discussing earlier history of it. How people speak is very subjective.

the people who think obama is kenyan aren't thinking about who it benefits for you to believe this.

reply to post by K J Gunderson



Just wondering, do you have any solid evidence he spent millions on keeping his birth place a lie or do you just get the information from others? Also, your sources must be legit and non biased, but we all know this. We can't rely on Fox News or any conservatives websites or even Alex Jones to provide us the truth.

I'm just curious, that's all, thanks!

[edit on 6-5-2010 by GorehoundLarry]

There is no proof that will ever convince the Birthers. None. Its like debating with a zombie "BORN IN KENYA< BAAARRRYYYY

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
As God Fearing, Red Blooded, Americans ... We just need to see to it that he goes to AZ lickity split. Doesn't he need to meet with McCain soon?

Obama's destiny lies in AZ

Yep, it sure will be interesting to see if Obama ever sets foot in Arizona ever again.

reply to post by GorehoundLarry


Maybe you should read my posts again.

Anyone of them should do.

Originally posted by Alxandro

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix
As God Fearing, Red Blooded, Americans ... We just need to see to it that he goes to AZ lickity split. Doesn't he need to meet with McCain soon?

Obama's destiny lies in AZ

Yep, it sure will be interesting to see if Obama ever sets foot in Arizona ever again.

Why? Would they stop him for being black? Being in a car? Giving a speech? What probably cause would you expect the president to give them in order to even begin to question his citizenship?

Just curious since this law is all legit, on the up and up, not about race at all or anything like that.

reply to post by Alxandro


Darn it, another Poll question I would love to have on this thread.

It would be very interesting to see, just one vote per person/member. Open if for a week or two. See what happens.

I say he doesn't step in there until after Novermber 2012. Say December 2012 (IF he were to ever be so fortunate to get re-elected.... ugh)

Here is my favorite one so far:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5678d9ca494e.jpg[/atsimg]

Originally posted by anon72
One thing for sure, this issue ISN'T going away anytime soon ...

Oh, I know. It's painfully apparent.

I wish it would ... but, I know it'll be an issue until he's served out his term.

Fact: both Michelle and Obama refer to Kenya as Obama's home country. Michelle said it twice and Obama made a joke about it.

Fact: a non-government institution handled the birth certificate (factcheck, funded by the Annenberg foundation which Obama was a chairman of). And Hawaii state records said they handled it but did not show the actual document.

It seems like it's both a fact that the actual birth certificate on file in Hawaii has not been shown to the public as well as the fact that both of them have said Kenya is the home country.

Am I missing something?

Originally posted by anon72
reply to post by Alxandro

 

Darn it, another Poll question I would love to have on this thread.

It would be very interesting to see, just one vote per person/member. Open if for a week or two. See what happens.

I say he doesn't step in there until after Novermber 2012. Say December 2012 (IF he were to ever be so fortunate to get re-elected.... ugh)

Here is my favorite one so far:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5678d9ca494e.jpg[/atsimg]

I am having trouble finding where you provided the proof of your repeated lie. Did I miss it or do you feel that you do not need to prove things you say as long as they support this view?

The other thing I cannot find is where you explained why you post in threads where this lie has been exposed to you and yet repeat it without trying to argue its validity anyway.

Did I miss that?

Maybe then you can answer why Obama would be stopped in Arizona in the first place?

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3cbf4228da3b.jpg[/atsimg]

This is a picture of three guys appearing to inflict violence upon a horse, lying on the ground, that seems to be, most likely, dead. They are also talking about matters while this is going on.

Originally posted by Hadrian
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3cbf4228da3b.jpg[/atsimg]

This is a picture of three guys appearing to inflict violence upon a horse, lying on the ground, that seems to be, most likely, dead. They are also talking about matters while this is going on.

in other words, "move along here, people, nothing to see" ?

You want to know what else is beating a dead horse? Sticking a picture of a horse getting beat on every single one of these threads.

Since you added me as a foe, I feel obliged to act the role.

Originally posted by filosophia
Fact: both Michelle and Obama refer to Kenya as Obama's home country. Michelle said it twice and Obama made a joke about it.

Fact: a non-government institution handled the birth certificate (factcheck, funded by the Annenberg foundation which Obama was a chairman of). And Hawaii state records said they handled it but did not show the actual document.

It seems like it's both a fact that the actual birth certificate on file in Hawaii has not been shown to the public as well as the fact that both of them have said Kenya is the home country.

Am I missing something?

Fact: You can look at his birth certificate online from all kinds of angles.

Fact: You can confirm that is indeed what a Hawaiian birth certificate does indeed look like.

Fact: There were two birth announcements places in local papers at the time of his birth.

Fact: The Hawaiian Dept. of Health has confirmed his records of birth in Hawaii and determined it so.

Fact: He was confirmed by the person in charge (Pelosi) as eligable to run for president of the United States.

Fact: A bill has passed that acknowledges he was born in Hawaii so whether you believe it or not, it is now law.

Fact: He was elected by a majority with plenty of time to expose something like this.

Fact: Every time new evidence surfaces about his Kenyan heritage, it has been debunked, a proven fraud, or some random interpretation.

I could probably go on.

Do your "facts" outweigh mine?

Originally posted by filosophia
in other words, "move along here, people, nothing to see" ?

You want to know what else is beating a dead horse? Sticking a picture of a horse getting beat on every single one of these threads.

See what you just said?

"horse getting beat on every single one of these threads."

Because there should be hundreds of threads on this one topic and god forbid anyone point out how tired that is. Just look at people like Anon who go starting these threads, filling them with lies and moving on to start again when proven wrong. I think the horse pic is far less redundant than the fact that there are "all these threads" in which to post it.

Some people just don't give up! This issue is really a waste of good thinking time.

reply to post by filosophia


kinda ironic a little bit, ain't it?

reply to post by K J Gunderson


1. I'm not talking about his McDonald's birth certificate he found in a happy meal

2. How? It doesn't look like this birth certificate www.wnd.com...

3. Why two? Seems odd

4. But now showing it to the public

5. Pelosi? You're kidding right? The same person who stopped impeachment trials of Bush. She's real trustworthy. Not!

6. Oh, a bill that forces us to believe he is from Hawaii, how fascist. What bill is this by the way? Patriot Act II?

7. Debatable (Diebold)

8. You're opinion, not fact.



[edit on 6-5-2010 by filosophia]

reply to post by K J Gunderson


new thread for every new piece of evidence you try to persuade people against with your little picture of a horsie.

reply to post by Hadrian


yeah it is, we can keep quoting it over and over again to really rub the point in, I'm game.