Alleged NASA -Affiliated Astronomer Deciphers 'Intelligence' Signal From Nearby Stars

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Here's a side-by-side comparison of our heroes... hero and heroine?

Originally posted by dcmb1409
Does anyone see a complete correlation with dummy's pic and Mars?

Not when you get a FULL picture of the Plieades and a FULL picture of the Cydonia enigmas. Those are cropped in an attempt to force a resemblance, then have lines drawn in to "lead the eye" into arriving at that conclusion. That is one of Wayne's favored tactics, which he has used time and time again.

A similar situation occurs in the forced "correlations" between the Betty Hill star map and the Marjorie Fish interpretation of it. Take away the lines drawn in to "lead the eye", and all the resemblances just plain vanish.

Interestingly, perhaps, I was out roving around about 4 am, and noticed the Plieades directly over head. Orion was visible, too, and I think I may have seen Ra wink at me from just below Orion's belt...

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Not exactly the same person, but there does appear to be a familial relationship, particularly in the nose and mouth area..

Hmmmm.....

It seems NASA Judy is at it again with Ivan0135 an another alien video making the rounds. One is hotly being discussed here on this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I believe that they ( or her ) makes a video and then reads about what others say makes its a hoax so as to apply better techniques into the next one until she hopes, a realistic, hard to prove, hoax film of her Kalahari aliens can be made.

Some people will fall for anything.

I think that's what keeps NASA Judy scamming after all of these years, there's always someone out there with a weak mind and a full wallet to support her.

Then there's also those that know better and won't stand for the lies she produces either in written form, radio, or these fake videos she floods the web with..

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Only thing i can say about that is that she NO LONGER HAS ANY CREDIBILITY!

So ANYTHING she puts out in the future however well done or perfect will be tainted by

her reputation and TOTAL lack of credibility............

Originally posted by eletheia
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Only thing i can say about that is that she NO LONGER HAS ANY CREDIBILITY!

So ANYTHING she puts out in the future however well done or perfect will be tainted by

her reputation and TOTAL lack of credibility............

I think that's why "Ivan" is putting these videos out rather than "Judy". The name association would automatically make for a hoax association now, so she's developing new "outlets" to keep on hoaxing, while avoiding the association of the known hoaxer name with the new hoaxes.

"Ivan0135", Ivan the Tormenting Norwegian", Orbital Observer, etc... ALL are riding the Judy Hoax Train, and may even all be the same person under a variety of personas.

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I've been perusing past-pages and a smile alights my lips when I
see the crazy trail that led to the Hoax revelation.
It's hard to believe that someone would put that much effort in trying
to avoid a simple question.

'Show us the proof!'


Amazing... truly amazing.

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It's hard to fathom the absolute reams of paperwork that have been generated by the failure to respond to that one, single, simple question, isn't it?

Just an answer to ONE question, and none of this would ever have been.

ONE question, and the data had been alleged to have already been collected, yet it failed to ever materialize.

Oddly, there is a rational reason that the data would not have yet been presented, and neither Wayne nor Judy ever gave that reason. That tells me all I need to know about the alleged Astrophysics doctorate. They didn't even know what to say to forestall the inquiries, and a proper scientist would have reeled it off right off the bat.

Tells me they're not proper scientists at all.

As a matter of fact, I'd hazard a guess that they're not even improper scientists.

So few hoaxers ever are.

I understand that Judy's newest attempt at yet another hoax went down in flames and crashed beside her Kalahari Alien from Zeta Reticula saucer embedded in the ground. A certain thread was locked. Youtube has taken down a few of her offensive videos.

She will have to completely change her strategy and alias's now but whats the point if a new hoax doesn't give credit back to her, unless she is doing it just for satisfaction of pulling one over on everyone.

Another thing that gets me about the aliens from the hoaxers from back then that carry over to today's believers is the similarities of Earthlings for lack of imagination, such as:

Alien's have two arms and legs, one proportional torso, one neck, two eyes, two ears (or holes). a nose (or two holes), one mouth or slit, 3 to five digits (some webbed) on their hands, and one very large head.

An almost complete replica of an Earthling with minor alien differences.

I remember that we were taught in old school that the size of the brain indicated intelligence, Hence the extremely large heads on these aliens from back then to give them the appearance of super intelligence.

Their ships have blinking navigation lights just like our aircraft as space must be full of alien traffic. Their ships have either a glass dome or port holes on them just like the glass we accidentally created in ancient times.
Amazing how different species all invent together and get the same results.

We wear clothes and while some aliens are shown as Au natural, some are clothed just like us. Judy's latest attempt even had the little guys in "turtlenecks", It not only covered up the head/neck so that the flaw was hidden on tape but it was actually chic.

If you really break it all down, there's nothing really alien about aliens. We just mirror each other with subtle changes and nothing bizarre or mind boggling has ever been seriously attributed to the aliens.

Seems a little unimaginative to me.

But most hoaxers are not rocket scientist or astrophysicist like our Judy.

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I couldn't hazard a guess at how many languages there are spoken in this world of our's

But i find it astonishing that these visiting aliens can either speak or make themselves

understood in English!!


And watching the movements of the said 'Aliens' on Judy's/ Ivans video's slow, cumbersome

and rather clumsy makes me hope and pray that they never need to make an emergency stop

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I agree with your view of our cousins-from-the-stars.

It's fitting that the public view of Aliens being here on Earth are:
The Military are busom-buddies with some and enjoy
gifts of technology from them, OR bring them down using Radar...
(which I've never fully gotten my head around)... and attempt to back
-engineer their vehicles.
Which ever way, it requires no evidence from the Military that any of
the above has or is happening... and that leaves an area for our pals
to inject their views and conference prices.

It's always the same, crash sites are vaguely pointed towards, any
discovered material is found to be terrestial and the whole account becomes
a situation that is exploited by the Jackals who only want your money.

The Grays, Zetans or whatever flavour of the month -have dumped their
exotic looks from the 60's & 70's and now are seen as sleek-skinned
blank-eyed scientists who wander steel-lined corridors of their ship, promising
a nasty encounter with a corrugated vacuum-cleaner tube.

Their earth-bases can't be accessed and they visit their poor victims in the
night, where cam-corders are not available or working.

So, even though they interact voluntarily with humans, or by accident -through
hypnotic regression, they wish to stay in the background and hope the masses
see them as silly light-heartedness brought to us by the Main-stream Media.

It's just those darn headlights on their ships... couldn't they use some tape to
cover the blinking lights? It's not like they're short of a roll or two, look how much
ornate tape they used at the Roswell crash.

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I've been thinking about the 3d model mesh of the "alien" Judy used to make that video. I'd dearly love to get my hands on it. I KNOW it's out there. Not only Judy has used it, but it, or one very similar, was used in South America - Argentina I think, but I'm not sure, to hoax an alien walking across the background of some newsreel footage by a bored news editor.

There is an animated avatar right here at ATS which I believe uses the same model, or one very like it.

It's evidently already rigged for animation, so I wouldn't have to go to all the trouble of rigging it, and I think I could out-Judy Judy in the hoaxed film department. I could film it in it's native habitat, on it's own home planet, complete with scenery and foliage, also entirely alien, which would PROVE, of course, that I have mastered superluminal interstellar travel.

I've not decided yet whether I would charge for that video or not. How 'bout it, Judy and Wayne? Is there money to be made in the hoaxer racket?

ETA: Upon further consideration, I think I could REALLY make this hoax work for me. Even though (I've told you this before, haven't I?) I'm a world-renowned Physicist at the CERN facility with a PhD from MIT, I wouldn't have to produce any further evidence of my invention of super-luminal travel - I would have already have released the video proving it. What else do the masses need? They'd just get lost in the complicated mixture of matrices, integrals and derivatives that are woven together into the Grand Unified Superluminal Travel Equation (tm). No, it would be better to keep those equations to myself.

I will patent the equations with a secret patent office, so that they can never be used by other than myself, but no one will be able to find that out, because the patent office is, you know, SECRET.

My PhD was conferred in a secret Skull and Bones ceremony, so don't bother the MIT Admissions Office with inquiries. They can't release that information because it's, you know, SECRET.

My work at the CERN facility is Top Secret (COSMIC) work for NATO, so don't even bother to ask CERN about it. They'll lie to you because it's, you know, SECRET.

All of the scientific papers I've published promptly had a security classification stamped upon them and were whisked away from the public purview because of their sensitive nature. they currently reside in a darkened library stack in the bowels of CIA headquarters at Langley, VA. Don't bother asking the CIA about them, though, because they are, well, you know.... do you REALLY want to bother those guys at the CIA, any how?

Just take my word for it - I'm the real deal. I'll have a video to prove it, and what more could you want? I'm only interested in releasing he video in the interests of openness and transparency. I'm a very transparent person, and don't believe in keeping secrets from the masses. Just don't dig too far into my background because it's all classified, you know,,,, SECRET - but that's not MY fault. It's the fault of those damned Elites in TPTB.

I'm truly sorry, but I won't be able to recreate any of my scientific papers for you, because "they" would no doubt have me X-ed out. I'm very open and transparent, but hey, sometimes you can't afford to be a fanatic about it, right?

Just watch the video... buy the book... then you will KNOW, just as I do!

I'll release the video... I'll release the book... no one needs any more confirmation than that, right? No pesky equations to bother their heads with. That would only make them feel stupid when they couldn't comprehend them, and I'm not a heartless person like that.

You will have all the proof you need and deserve in the video and book. 49.96 each, at any participating Walmart (Tesco's will be the UK distributor, of course).

Yes, I think I can make it work, with only that quick release of information. No one will need any more than THAT!

Note to self: don't let this story hit ATS. They're bothersome and irritating, and keep on asking for some kind of "proof", as if they'd ever be able to fathom it! Pffft! After all, only I can understand the intricacies, because I am an MIT PhD (Fr.. FRS,. M.I.C.K.E.Y.,M.O.U.S.E., and too many more honors to list here).

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If it transpires that you have to interact with ATS members, it may pay you to have
other Usernames, possibly something connected to your 'other' hobby... the one that
involves broomsticks, pumpkins and cats.

Then of course, there's the 'operation' to deal with.

A cheap way is a nice lipstick, plenty of masscara and the use of two bricks slammed
together to take away certain parts that could cause confusion later.
Just remember to keep your thumbs out of the way.

Oh, and a bicycle pump may be called on to... well, you get the idea.

Originally posted by A boy in a dress
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If it transpires that you have to interact with ATS members, it may pay you to have
other Usernames, possibly something connected to your 'other' hobby... the one that
involves broomsticks, pumpkins and cats.

Oh my. I thought those magazines were safely hidden away under my mattress! I never thought they'd be discovered!

Then of course, there's the 'operation' to deal with.

A cheap way is a nice lipstick, plenty of masscara and the use of two bricks slammed
together to take away certain parts that could cause confusion later.
Just remember to keep your thumbs out of the way.

I looked through the suggestion books at the physicians office, and decided I didn't want the operation that turns me into a girl. I want the one that turns me into a talking puppy instead. You have to go to a specialist for that one, and I understand his office has a lot of test tubes, bubbling beakers, and a "Jacob's Ladder" right in the middle next to the operating table, which has stylish leather straps on it. No bricks are involved, but they have this shiny metal hat with a curly wire coming out of the top that you get to wear while they're operating!

The puppy gets to wear one of those, too. It's like the party hats for a birthday party, they said.

You have to go to Eastern Europe to get it done, which isn't all that far from Germany.

Do they call doctor's offices "la-BORE-ah-trees" where you're from, too? Or is that only in Transylvania?

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... Oh my. I thought those magazines were safely hidden away under my mattress!
I never thought they'd be discovered!

Eeeeeh Neno, you're terrible!!

...Do they call doctor's offices "la-BORE-ah-trees" where you're from, too?
Or is that only in Transylvania?

Yes... we have them-things here on the Mainland and without getting into the
many problems of the UK, I believe the labs are quite busy.
Transil... Transyli... where Dracula was hanging out -is where many tall tales
and legends are born, I suppose it's a fertile ground for 'dodgy' stories.

But with all respect to Trans... (see above) other countries also excel in story
tellers. Take South Africa... no, seriously take South Afri... (sorry, couldn't resist it!)

There's a fellow down there, that believes if you take a map of the Pyramids, fold it
and turn it upside down -draw felt-tip lines to connect the structures and assure your
audience that Governments are conspiring to thwart your foldings...
then said map looks just like some stars in the sky... sort of.

But some of us deal in hard facts and that said, I'm going back to my many radio
dishes to listen to what Mrs. Pleiades has to say about Mr. Zeta Reticula at No. 32.
You wouldn't believe what he can do with neoprene.

You're all welcome to join me, the air-fare is paid for and we'll look after your family too!!
Don't just book-it, Thomas Cook it.

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As we have all been lead to believe by one 'Dana Scully' a member of ATS with a total of

three postings that Colonel James Van Greunen of the RSA Military Intelligence committed

suicide in 1993 and was burried in Bavaria.


Judy emmerged in her full 28year old adult glory in 1993. [cant find anything on Judy Faltskog

prior to this year ] What with her other activities and websites i did a little googling and

southern Germany is rife with tales of the Bavarian blautsauger [ literally Bavarian bloodsucker

vampire]


An interesting point i uncovered was that Bavarian Vampires sleep with their thumbs crossed

and the left eye open!!!!


I wonder if any one has seen Judy when she's asleep

Ran across some new and old interesting information, did some evaluations, and found some more pieces to the Judy/Wayne puzzle.

Ran across a Goggle blog and a forum where the same person called Judy a CGI expert and her friend Wayne Herschel a professional fake.

Had to laugh because Judy Faltskog is no expert in CGI , but Wayne is definitely a fake.

He wasn't too keen on ATS but named Judy and Wayne for what they are, fakes.
source (of the forum):

www.yasni.com... C3%A4ltskog&cat=statement&showads=1
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Judy probably had help in CGI or film manipulation/mock-ups or she may be getting advice from some of these characters or even be wearing a sock or two.

Screen name:

felina2012 - left me a comment on another site defending Judy and criticizing a video I did. tracked her to an overseas amateur film company that does different documentaries with a keen interest on some UFO's films.

Ivan0135 - Youtube uploader of captured alien footage from 1942 - 1960
(wasn't there a war going on in 42?) Surprise, surprise! His alien and Judy's recent Zeta Reticula alien are cast from the same CGI,costume,or mock up. They even dress alike in chic turtlenecks and share physical features only problem is that Judy's was a 1947 Roswell crash survivor and Ivan's was a 1942 pair doing a secret meeting after shopping at Macy's.

Nova=== Don't have his number off the top of my head and its late to dig up but where there's Ivan, you normally find Nova. Whom can be traced back to a CGI animation company and supposedly had a hand in the alien autopsy hoax.

If you watch both Judy's and Ivan's videos and screen capture key moments you will see the same alien(s) or too similar models in both films.

A search of Zeta Reticula brings up a lot of interesting sites. Some had star maps showing Zeta Reticula and ORION in the same neighborhood.

Judy Faltskog = Zeta Reticula ......Wayne Herschel = ORION

Judy Faltskog = NASA Astrophysicist . Wayne Herschel = RA and Hidden records

Judy Faltskog = Wayne Herschel = The signal Hoax.
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Judy Faltskog last year "after" the signal hoax was exposed on another forum:

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Default Re: Abovetopsecret.com Controlled by CIA Disinformation Agents
So, The Kalahari Incident was True all along!
see video: (removed by owner of video)

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Wayne Hershel from his facebook:

Astrophysicist JUDY Fältskog is a personal friend of Wayne Herschel that holds together the voices for several days running to senior leaders of the U.S. government. The coded signal is transmitted simultaneously from different star systems including:
Aldeberan in Taurus, Epsilon Eridany, Izar (Epsilon Bootes), Thuban (Alpha Draconis), Proxima Centauri.
Sending all the signals are similar, are not natural!
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She still is trying to revive the original Kalahari aliens and Wayne has always backed that claim and they both are trying to ride the bus home.

Not so fast cupcake.

wonder if they read this and went AHA?

Aka: greys type A

Zeta Reticuli Greys are said to have abducted Betty and Barney Hill in 1958

and these are the ones who have supposedly been doing the majority of the

abductions.

Home system

Zeta Reticuli Greys come from Zeta Reticulan, the 4th planet out from Zeta2

Reticulum, near Barnard's Star, which is a neighboring star system to

Orion. The constellation Reticulum is a fairly small collection of faint

stars, of which zeta is barely visible to the naked eye even though it is

relatively close to us at approximately 40 light years. The dim point of

light known to us as Zeta Reticuli is actually a binary star system, and

its two stars, Zeta Reticulum and Zeta2 Reticulum, are each very much like

our own yellow sun. It is not visible in the northern hemisphere.

Their day is 90 hours long and the year is a little over 432 of our days

long. Travel time to that location is about 91 days by Reticulan jumpcraft.

are both stars in the Constellation Reticulum in the Southern Celestial

Hemisphere.
These greys have their best-known bases in New Mexico and Nevada but are

also known to have bases in many countries of the world.

source: aliens.monstrous.com...

continued

Screen capture (not the best) of Judy's Zeta alien.


Ivan's alien



Alien autopsy hoax


Found a treasure trove of fake alien video's and pictures. Might start a thread on the history of photgraphic scams.

Originally posted by dcmb1409

A search of Zeta Reticula brings up a lot of interesting sites. Some had star maps showing Zeta Reticula and ORION in the same neighborhood.

Zeta Reticuli isn't anywhere near Orion in the real sky. Zet Ret is in the southern constellation of Reticulum ("The Net"), and can't bee seen in latitudes north of about Miami. Orion is right now pretty high in the northern skies about the middle of the night. I see it nearly every clear night that I'm out and about in the wee hours. Those folks making those star maps - they're doing it wrong! Wayne Herschel could probably use a few dozen maps like those to "prove" his Ra thesis, though. You could probably make a more accurate star map by throwing the change in your pocket on the floor, and that's just the sort of "star map" Wayne seems to prefer!

Zeta Reticuli Greys are said to have abducted Betty and Barney Hill in 1958

Actually it was September 1961, around the 19th I think.

and these are the ones who have supposedly been doing the majority of the abductions.

Yeah, the Hills seem to have started a fad!

The following is "junk science", probably from some 13 year old "Light Warrior". I'm going to address it point by point. Y'all KNOW how I hate picking stuff like that apart, right?

Home system

Zeta Reticuli Greys come from Zeta Reticulan, the 4th planet out from Zeta2 Reticulum,

Well, that by itself isn't impossible (although no such planet has been discovered), until you get to:

near Barnard's Star, which is a neighboring star system to

Orion.

Oops. Barnard's Star is in the constellation Ophiuchius. It is the 4th closest star to Earth, after Alpha, Beta, and Proxima Centauri. Barnard is only about 5.9 light years away. Zet Ret is about 27,2 light years away, and Orion has stars at a wide variety of distances away (243 [Bellatrix] to 1359 [Alnilam] light years). Now, if that wide variety of distances isn't enough to preclude their being "neighbors", consider that they are all in entirely different areas of the sky. This sort of misconception arises from people thinking that just because stars form patterns called "constellations" as viewed from Earth, they are all grouped together. they are not. If you get just a few light years away from Earth, all the constellations just fall all apart.

The constellation Reticulum is a fairly small collection of faint

stars, of which zeta is barely visible to the naked eye even though it is

relatively close to us at approximately 40 light years.

I'll let the "40 light years" slide. I haven't checked to make sure the 27.2 LY figure I cited is correct - it's from memory, and memory can be fallible.

ETA: I just checked, and Zet Ret is listed at 39.4 light years, so the figure they give is close enough for government work. I'm not sure when it was revised - maybe from the Hipparcos mission, maybe something else.

The dim point of

light known to us as Zeta Reticuli is actually a binary star system, and

its two stars, Zeta Reticulum and Zeta2 Reticulum, are each very much like

our own yellow sun. It is not visible in the northern hemisphere.

I just had to bold that, because I'm an a-hole. Why did the same source say just above that it was a "neighbor of Orion" and Barnard's star then? Both of those are observable from the northern hemisphere (Barnard is "observable" but not necessarily "visible" since it is too dim to be seen with the naked eye).

Their day is 90 hours long and the year is a little over 432 of our days

long. Travel time to that location is about 91 days by Reticulan jumpcraft.

are both stars in the Constellation Reticulum in the Southern Celestial

Hemisphere.
These greys have their best-known bases in New Mexico and Nevada but are

also known to have bases in many countries of the world.

source: aliens.monstrous.com...

This here is pure fiction from the fevered mind of a "True believer" who doesn't bother to suss out facts, or even try to make their fiction plausible.

Was it Wayne or Judy that wrote this? Both seem to fit the profile!

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Thanks for clearing some of that up. Pulled it from that website to support the theory that Judy and Wayne are collaborating using the same sources of information since they mirror each other in claims and supposedly proof.

Guess I'll put on a turtleneck and go shop at Macy's.