Mother Of All Gushers Could Kill Earth's Oceans

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by Spinoza73
The source of the OP mentions an opening vent of 7 feet. To my knowledge this is wrong: the vent measures 10 cm, about 4 inch. There is pressure, and so it is spewing oil. 800,000 m3 every 24 hours. Times 90 days (for drilling the bypass) this doesn't make up the biggest oily-event, but still big enough 72 million m3.

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I read five feet?

Think about this for a minute. No mater how bog the hole was to start with it is getter bigger by the minute. At that pressure it is cutting the wallls of the hole and growing is size. They could end up with a hole 10 or even 20 feet across if they let it go for too long.

they could plug it by lowering a 50x50 metre slab of concrete 10 feet thick right on top of the hole. there is no way any amount of oil pressure could move it.

If there's anything I've learned of human ingenuity, it's that we always come out on top in the end. I really hope this time is no exception.

That being said, I hate oil. And of course, I need it too, in my daily life, if nothing else then in clothes. I don't drive. But... It's like Gollum and the Ring.

I'm pretty sure Mother Nature is going to come out on top this time around as well, though. She's good at doing that. Even better than us humans.

That BOP is supposed to work under any condition as it has stored gas pressure to operate the 5 or more valves that control the well. one of the valves can cut the drill string off and seal the well permanently. Did they charge the gas pressure storage tanks to operate the BOP before putting it on the sea floor? Because of the pressure at that depth the pressure must be set so the valves can operate. If the sea water pressure is greater than the tank pressure when you hit the big red button on the drill floor nothing happens on the BOP and everything happens that we have seen. Just one of

Interesting article I came across. This guy sounds like he may be on to something here. Not that it helps now. They have to move the rig before they can stop the leak. That is bigger than raising the titanic

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Originally posted by shug7272

Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by warpcrafter

 

STOP PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH, MEMBERS OF ATS..

Just because I inject some logic into these irrational topics, does not mean I don't feel for the tremendous catastrophe taking place.

Assumptions are for the ignorant.

Deny Ignorance, ATS members.

Thank you !!

You didn't use logic and you did nothing more than make yourself look stupid. There doesn't have to be enough oil to pollute every last drop of the ocean. The vast majority of sea life lives in the shallower waters of the ocean. Down deep it is dark and can be devoid of oxygen.

Now here is using logic, ready? Oil floats...... If you pollute just the shallower waters your pretty well boned and since lucky for us, oil floats, most of the oil coming out will pollute the shallower waters. Cut your estimate by alot, and then realize it gets real easy real fast to pollute 50% of surface water with the currents at work. Gets messy.

Okay, genius...

You just took words out of other people's posts. Nothing original, whatsoever



Allow me to break it down another way for you guys.

The average depth in the ocean is 2.5 miles. That's 13,200ft

So we take the 343 trillion figure and divide it by 13,200 to get how much oil is needed to cause a foot of contaminated oil-water, all around the world's oceans (roughly, as the area on the surface is slightly larger than the surface area below) .

25,985,848,484

25 billion gallons.

Let's do one inch. /12

2,165,404,040

Over TWO BILLION GALLONS.

Not happening...


...btw, not all of the oil will float. The larger particulates will remain under the water.

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I just wrote the White House too... Couldn't hurt right?

Gulf Coast

I've read news of building a dome. This may or may not work let's be honest. I'm leaning more towards the latter. I thought of one idea 10 minutes ago: Utilizing a cone with a large enough surface area to disperse the pressure in a circle. Around the edge of the cone the equivalent of inverted gutters routed into manageable pipelines all the way to the surface. At this point collect it however deemed necessary. Even if some oil escapes due to the overwhelming psi this would start a chain of events such as constructing a couple of layered cones repeating the process. Each time they're dealing with less and less pressure. Again, a thought, but since BP doesn't have what we would like to call a redundancy plan beyond the spill... Have at it.

Best Regards,
The Americanist


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Well nice math but someone already beat you to it and of course it doesn't tell the whole story. You do not need to pollute ever gallon of water in the ocean to kill a whole lot of sea life.

As someone else said reefs and coast line is where the majority of sea life lives. And they do so because currents tend to bring them the right temperature of water. those same currents could possibly bring the toxins from oil to those locations.

The other poster who beat you to the math has made a pretty good case that it is unlikely to kill off enough for a tipping point. Still stuff like this can have unforeseen consequences and chain reactions we may not be able to see so I for one do not dismiss it that easily.

gee and here we go...

looks like the rickety time machine boys were right again...

And gee how convenient it is that in a time where technology was about to steamroll the power brokers and a new age of freedom was about to take root.

First they tried to scare us with false flag 1. 9/11 But lets face it the BOOMERs who are so selfish they can be conned into anything that looks good for them no matter what it costs the rest of society didn't bite.

NEXT they blew the credit bubble 3 times in under a decade trying to throw corpses onto the tracks to grind the wheels of progress to a halt.

NOW well this one I think is going to work.

THINK ABOUT IT !!!

How CONVENIENT is it that in an era where the globalist agenda is showing its true ugly and evil side we now MAGICALLY have a truly GLOBAL DISASTER?

And from an energy corp tied to royals no less.... WOW I'm so shocked.


WAKE UP PEOPLE

they will KILL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US rather than lose their grip on us!!!

Brinksmanship doesn't even begin to describe this reckless and DOUBTLESSLY PURPOSEFUL ACT OF GLOBAL TERRORISM

YES the people in power are the TERRORISTS and if you can't see it after this.... Well I weep for you but I Hope enough people will see this for what it is. If they don't then it would be in our best interest to SURRENDER to the MAD and EVIL people in power now before they kill us all trying to break us to the harness.

Originally posted by discl0sur3
The latest article I read stated that the plan of attack is to temporarily place a "dome" over top of the well head to contain the oil...It's going to have to be one hell of a dome to contain 30-40,000psi

I have read on other sites and blogs that people that work on oil rigs are talking, and they say that this cannot be done.....it is just wishful thinking.

I wonder why an episode like this did not make the "It Could Happen Tomorrow" series?

Hasn't the possibility always been there? Was it too dark to acknowledge?

The insanity of it all and haliburton was involved in the construction of the concrete,to me it looks like a knock out blow to our economy you take out the gulf and the Missisippi .You bring a huge amount of American bussines on its knees .Why they feel the need to destroy our economy i will never know ,I hope the children of today dont wake into a dead world tmrw ..Sadd Sadd days

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The worst way to attract followers to God is to use bad examples as a threat, a fear tactic, and a means to gain a following...Who are you kidding? At a time like this when some idiots are suggesting nukes to further compound the problem, you want to introduce fear of God by quoting scripture? Are you crazy or what?

Yes, sub robots similar to those that took videos of the Titanic are probably the most likely tool that could be used to plug this hole...but crying out to save souls at a time like this is plainly nonreligious! God have mercy on your soul! Get a grip, will you?>

Some interesting links on deep oil drilling:

www.wikinvest.com...
www.peak-oil-news.info...
www.energyandcapital.com...


interesting stuff? Wonder if the US decided to start tapping the big pocket.


Edit: They've been using the gulf as a major source of domestic oil for a while: www.nytimes.com...

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Howstuffworks: Ultra deep water oil drilling
videos.howstuffworks.com...


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One fifth of the US fishing industry just got wiped out. I saw a fisherman on the news choking back tears. He said he was going out one last time and wasn’t sure when he was coming back. It kind of worried me, poor guy.

Marine life might sustain itself but will be stressed and weak. It’s an open invitation for any number of diseases to spread like wildfire within the remaining populations. I would imagine oxygen levels under an oil slick aren't the greatest. Aquatic plants would help at least until they all die. Life seems pretty tough but when you upset just one little aspect it sets off a whole chain of events. Things can go bad fast and take a long time to recover.

This is so terrible!!!!!

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On CNN this morning, Candy Crowley interviewed both Janet Napolitano, Homeland Security Secretary, and Ken Salazar, Secretary of Interior, who assured the viewers that the government is doing everything possible to solve this problem. When asked the worst case scenario, Salazar responded to the question with assurances...BP will pay for this President Barack Obama assured the Louisiana public, and all fishing has been closed down until the waters are tested. The Coast Guard and the Navy are all involved in attempting to solve the problem. The government will spare no effort to resolve this to everyone's satisfaction, and 30 % of the nation's oil comes from the Gulf when asked if we should stop drilling...so there it is, the CNN crew is on the ball asking questions and getting guarded answers...Be sure that if man can get a rover on Mars that he can solve a hole in the ocean's floor...or can he? We will see...tune in tomorrow for the continuation of this real life soap opera...

Satellite images and other amazing things all over the planet.

miravi.eo.esa.int...



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Originally posted by Thermo Klein
This is a horrible catastrophy and I wish the mechanics, engineers, clean-up crews the best of luck!

On the other hand portraying this as the worst spill ever, end of the oceans, etc is just not realistic.

The worst oil spill ever, in the Persian Gulf in 1991, spilled about 430,000,000 gallons of oil.

At the rate of 100,000 barrels a day (100,000 according to CNN and BP an hour ago) this spill needs to stay full force like this for 11 years to equal the spill in the Persian Gulf.

Horrible? of course - worst ever? Not even close.

actualy, if what you say is correct than its likely this spill will surpass the Persian gulf spill

at a rate of 100.000 barrels a day =

4.200.000 gallions a day
divided by 430.000.000
= 102 days


In other words: if this spill is not fixed within 102 days, leaking 100.000 barrels a day, it will be worse than the persian gulf spill !

Originally posted by randomname
they could plug it by lowering a 50x50 metre slab of concrete 10 feet thick right on top of the hole. there is no way any amount of oil pressure could move it.

That is the problem, the whole is getting bigger, so how are they going to lower it down?

Or maybe I'm just confused..

Originally posted by hawkiye
Wow just wow! This appears to be much worse then we thought.... I am just stunned. This is like of biblical apocalyptic proportions. It's been a while but I believe there is even some biblical prophecy that talks about all sea life dying etc. I am not trying to make this a religious post or anything as I am not religious, just saying. This looks really bad, really bad!

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And Yet...


Ezekiel 32:14
Then will I make their waters deep, and cause their rivers to run like oil, saith the Lord GOD.




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