Facebook Group 'Praying' For President Obama's Death Passes One Million Members

Originally posted by Unlimitedpossibilities
reply to post by lee anoma AND reply to post by jimmyx

 

Well, considering that for one to participate in discussion, one must join the group, then that may explain why so many people have joined.

I am currently on the site now and I do not see any "praying". I only see people making random statements and having left vs. right arguments.

well, if your right, then i'll calm down a bit...but this is not an isolated incident for the murdering of the president of the united states.
someone (FBI or secret service) needs to start coming down hard on these people.
if someone carries this out, i hope they arrest every toothy-smiling right-wing apologist with statements like "WELL, I DIDN'T EXPECT SOMEONE TO TAKE ME SERIOUSLY"
these people are just itching for Obama's murder to happen

It's definately in bad taste, but I have seen worse on the internet. It's not like they're fully plotting a coup on Obama, and not all of them will be on that page for the same reasons. I've seen people joining groups specifically to oppose the reason it exsists.

That being said, I won't be joining that group. I find it more than a little sad that people would wish that on anyone, and it says more about them than anything else.

Originally posted by invetro
It's definately in bad taste, but I have seen worse on the internet. It's not like they're fully plotting a coup on Obama, and not all of them will be on that page for the same reasons. I've seen people joining groups specifically to oppose the reason it exsists.

That being said, I won't be joining that group. I find it more than a little sad that people would wish that on anyone, and it says more about them than anything else.

you know, i would agree with you...IF....it was only coming from wacky internet sites. but, innuendo and couched language are all over the TV, talk radio, tea-baggers, southern whites, republican leaders, right-wing newspaper columnists, calling for some type of harm to come to this president. and now facebook...hey let's encourage our kids and young adults to "discuss" praying for Obamas death!!!
yeah...let's all "discuss" this...what?...amusing?...interesting?...informative? ...thing?

Even if they are praying for Obama's death (which I have yet to see), then that is like praying for the "puppet" to die and not its master. If you kill the puppet, then the master just makes a new puppet. That is what most of those people fail to see, assuming a majority of them actually joined to "support" the effort.

I'm curious if people would be acting this "outraged" if it was Bush Jr., because if Facebook would have been this big when he was president, I can guarantee you that there would have been several groups like this for him.

Seriously though, most people probably joined it because of the silly word play and the crappy left vs. right ideology that has been ingrained into people. I'm willing to bet that most people in the group do not want him dead, they just don't want him to be president. They think that as long as their guy is sitting behind the desk, then all will be ok.

Some smart-ass kid probably thought this up one day when he/she were bored and made the group as a joke. Now if someone did seriously try to take the president's life, the yes, action should be taken against that person. But as long as it remains a stupid group on Facebook, I really think nothing should be done. The Secret Service has far bigger fish to fry, imo.

reply to post by VintageEnvy


I am against censorship. I do not want it taken down neither. I disliked Ronnie Regan more than bush and would never have hoped for such a thing. Still it takes all sorts...

reply to post by riddle6


ok...let me ask you this...if your wife was in a room with 50 men and half of them were yelling out "SOMEONE SHOULD RAPE THAT WOMAN"...then one man actually commits this hidous felony, apparently with your reasoning, "only" the man that commited the act should be held responsible? right?...and you would have no problem with the others


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Having seen some of the people you are referring to, then yes I can see where you're coming from. However, I think for a good chunk of the people on that group this would fall under a bleak humour category. I don't doubt for a minute that those tea-party types do wish this though, which is a measure of their mentality. It's a shame people so bigoted and without reason are allowed to vote, then vent their anger so labouriously when they don't get their outcome.

Taking it down along with any other group or site that makes these remarks would surely whitewash the minds of some people, making it seem as if everyone is a sane and reasonable individual. Unfortunately, freedom of speech also extends to them as well as us. All we have to do is shake our heads, hope that no one attempts to emulate this idea, and try to tolerate nutjob-speak.

How does this even matter? Does anyone on here know where the prayer originated? It originated from a stupid union who wanted their governor dead. The hypocrisy..

This just proves that there are idiots on both sides of the political spectrum. Just a few weeks ago, there was this:

Teachers union memo 'prays' for governor's death

The governor, of course, was Republican NJ Gov. Chris Christie.

edition.cnn.com...

Somehow, I don't think that such prayers are in the spirit of any religion I know.
Shame on them all.

Originally posted by jimmyx
reply to post by riddle6

 

ok...let me ask you this...if your wife was in a room with 50 men and half of them were yelling out "SOMEONE SHOULD RAPE THAT WOMAN"...then one man actually commits this hidous felony, apparently with your reasoning, "only" the man that commited the act should be held responsible? right?...and you would have no problem with the others

The United States Constitution protects freedom of speech, with the exception for certain tests of obscenity, child pornography, false advertisement/slander and speech that incites imminent danger

Under your situation, the people shouting "Someone rape that woman" can be prosecuted since they are threatening imminent harm. There is an argument to be made on they're behalf though, and if it was a constitutionally conscious jury/judge I'd say it would be thrown out, since they did not threaten, but merely suggestion that somebody "should" do so.

That being said, praying for ones death is not in any way a type of speech that incites imminent danger. Somebody praying for the death of another brings that person no closer to death than somebody praying for a pay increase will be closer to a raise.

Your example, therefore, is irrelevant, and incorrect.

reply to post by jimmyx


There is a huge difference between someone physically saying something in the middle of a group of people, and someone joining a group on the internet.

The group in question is on the internet, a place where people can sit comfortably behind their computer screen and do and say many things anonymously that they would normally never be able to do. With the case of Facebook, it isn't really all that anonymous, but people are still able to type and click away without the (general) threat of someone retaliating.

Now, if that same group were to start planning meetings and trying to actually kill the president, then that would be an entirely different story.

Until that day though, all the group is is a bunch of idiots who joined an online group.

reply to post by hornyana_jones


Well, if Facebook really is in cahoots with the government (as many suspect), then I doubt they'll take it down. Really, it's a perfect 'list gathering' method to see which citizens agree with that type of opinion.

I'll be straight with you, Im a member of that group. I don't care who thinks its "gross" or a "sin" or a form of "treason" because it's not!

I think it's a GREAT joke. Sorry if you don't like cynical humor, but you don't HAVE to read it. Luckily, "they" can't arrest you based on a joke, otherwise, half the country would be in jail right now awaiting trial!

I just visited the site.

Some of the best Chuck Norris jokes I've ever read.

reply to post by hornyana_jones


I am thouroughly disturbed by this. I had no idea this was making the rounds on facebook. How wrong! I don't care what his policies are or what he represents to whoever, trying to get people to wish the man dead is just not right!

While the proximate issue seems to nothing more than a distasteful, politically motivated joke (whatever happened to 'But he is our Commander and Cheif and deserves respect no matter what!" crowd), it brought up an interesting point.

In many important cases from attempted murder to terrorism , one of the questions that hangs in the balance is "did the person think that what they were doing would result in death?". So if Christians truely believe in the power of prayer, then by their own arguments, would they not actually be guilty of attempted murder?

For the record, I don't believe in "the power of prayer" and in any case I think it's a bunch of people blowing off steam on the internetz. And as a proud liberal and an American, freedom of speech is a very strongly held value. But it is an interesting philosophical point, nonetheless.....

too funny

over 1,000,000 white trash red neck facebook users want Obama to die.

Seriously - go look at the subscriber list.

Every single one of them is a walking punch line.

WHO THE HELL ARE THOSE 1 MILLIONS??

reply to post by Snarf


So, Sir, I am a white-trash redneck!? I agree, I am a bit country, but I am far from being the biggot you are making these people out to be. Let me guess, you are a black man trying to make a racist case here? If not, my bad for assuming, but that is the portrait you are painting.

For those that assume everyone that hates Obama is racist, you may want to look in the mirror. Just because I can't stand his politics, doesn't mean I'm racist. Hell, I voted for the man, but he's a great speaker so I was mislead by his well-hidden forked tounge.

I served in the Army, and I did my part to help secure OUR right to say and type what we want. What have you done lately? Oh yeah, plus I'm in college AND hold a full time job... again, what have you done!?