Mars pictures of ancient techno devices!

I haven't read every post here, but personally I think the issue is deeper than "true vs. false." The best way to come at it is in terms of degree of artificality. You don't try to define it per se but rather simply estimate, based on probabilty, how likely it is to be to be man-made vs. natural.

To do this you'd have to take many different factors into account. You'd have to know about local surface conditions over time, compositon of the rocks (i.e, how do they weather, shatter...what kinds of stress are they under, etc.). You'd have to know how forces such as gravity and electromagitisim work on the planet. Also vital: info in areas such as tectonics, atmospheric conditions, and so on and so forth. Some of this is known but there is still much humanity doesn't know about Mars, despite its closeness.

The consensus scholarly opinion now is that the planet had a thicker atmosphere at one time, probably with a high C02 atmosphere. This would have made it warmer, wetter, and it would have had flowing, non-frozen water running at surface level. All of this would have made Mars obviously more likely to be able to support life...maybe even intelligent life. The planet was cataclysmically destroyed by some sort of asteroid or comet collison, or perhaps another type of "entanglement" with a large heavenly body. They have made good progress in getting even the most surly opponants of these theories to accept all of the above. Half the planet's crust and most of its atmospere was blasted into space. Now, when exactly this happened is a mystery. The scholarly consensus tends towards "a long time ago," i.e. BCE 4 billion, for example. Nevertheless, there is are vocal and rational minority opinions that place it much later...some even as recently as the last major ice age on earth, for example. Shocking as it may seem, it is very hard to date impacts on Mars, despite the abundance of gigantic craters and surface distortions.

Anyway, at this stage, the point is to encourage speculation and identification of objects that are more likely to be artificial. Thus this is a good thread and the OP's efforts are great at opening up new doors even if none of us can really say what such objects actually are or do.

Originally posted by Aresh Troxit
What makes a straight line on top of a moving sand dune appear, with flips on both sides of the said line, even throwing a little bit of wetty sand in the direction the wind blows?
I don't know, but if I could get my hands on it, I'd be rich, and famous, and rich, and famous, and rich, rich!!!

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Thanks, spikey! This one is for you! If it is found, one day, I propose the name Spikeyus areshtroxitis! Seriously, it is a rocky planet, right?...

Here you have a colour version of that photo, made with the red, green and blue filters, so it's closer to true colour than the image you posted.


Now I will look for the "screw".

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I thank you very much, silent thunder, for such a statement! I would have loved to have said it that way, thanks!

I posted these pics, and kept some others to myself, because I felt the "design" of those "rocks" had too much sense in the relation of their shapes and/or their distribution on their surfaces to simply be exploded/melted rocks, as we can see all around.

The picture I called "The Worm" could be a simple rock planted in the ground, but Antor on his thread here; www.abovetopsecret.com...
found a similar one, and called it "Sand Worm". It would be nice to see if some more could be found.
I felt this needed to be shared.

PS: You should see Spikey's findings on page 7.

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About the screw object, there was at least 4 pics of it. What do you think this could be? Or the way it could have been created, given it is natural?

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Here you have the two false colour photos that show the "screw" (made with infra-red, blue and ultra-violet images, with some colour tweaking).




(scroll to the right to see the "screw")

The "screw" may be just part of one of those layered rocks (it's hard to tell if what we see are just parallel lines or if they are part of a spiral), or it could be something like this.

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Thanks! But what's "this"?

The "screw" on the pic of NASA seems to have a flatter shape, no?

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The "this" is one of the fossils me and my sister found some 200 metres from where we live.

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hmmm. Fossil, you say? VERY interesting, thanks...

PS: Going to supper, be back later!