Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate!

Originally posted by backinblack

Me personally??
I have said the whole thing is a non issue and have said we should move on..

What evidence, in any area of the mission, or the science, would sway your opinion one way or another?

Originally posted by FoosM

These photos are equivalent to what Building 7 is to 9/11.
This issue is the line in the sand. I would say it is even stronger than JW's upcoming 8 hour expose on moon rocks. And for the entire pack of Apollo defenders to be quiet on this issue, save for DJW, speaks volumes.

This quote from Milt Windler, Flight Director of Apollo 14 adds to your case foos. The suits were not flexible enough for those pictures to be taken in one second.

"Shepard could only swing with one hand because of his bulky suit"

Original source: www.therepublic.com...

If they can't play golf using two hands because of a 'bulky suit', then how could Schmitt transfer the sampler handle so easily and so quickly. The mystery deepens.

Originally posted by FoosM

How did Jack managed to pull out, change hands and hide the LRV sampler while he jumped into his seat in ONE second?

Original post www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by FoosM

What evidence, in any area of the mission, or the science, would sway your opinion one way or another?

You've seen my posts..
I'm truly on the fence on this one..

I just haven't seen what IMO is the smoking gun yet..

Originally posted by FoosM
...And for those in the know, like the Astronauts... well:
[graphic links removed]
This kept them in-line.

Yes, let's speak about 'intellectual honesty', shall we, Foo? I personally knew/know some friends and relatives of one of the families involved.

So would you now like to expound on what you are claiming? Spell it out in detail, Foo, so the forum can judge your motives... and morals.

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In the first picture ppk55 it was't even in his hand if you actually look at the picture you will see that also those 3 pictures could have been taken over a period of nine seconds according to the journal and as you can see a change in viewpoint between the first and last picture thats probably what happened.

Originally posted by ppk55

"Shepard could only swing with one hand because of his bulky suit"

...If they can't play golf using two hands because of a 'bulky suit', then how could Schmitt transfer the sampler handle so easily and so quickly. The mystery deepens.

That's enough to deepen the mystery for ppk???

So.... ppk can't see any difference in attempting a golf swing, with two hands on a 'club' and swinging it to strike a ball, to being able to transfer something from one hand to the other.

That's it. I've had it. It's like trying to explain relativity to slugs. ATS has truly reached the sludge at the bottom of the barrel, and this thread - which reached its use-by-date on the first page - is now stinking the place out. So I'm voting with my feet. And don't worry, the door won't hit me - I've opened lots of new doors, where intelligent people ask intelligent questions, and idiots are simply shown the door. Look around, folks.

To the Apollo deniers, do make a big announcement when you actually achieve anything beyond flogging a moron's idiocy on Youtube and asking ignorant questions about pictures you can't understand - I'll be waiting with unbated breath...

To the Apollo defenders here.. I admire your patience, but I gotta say I think you are now hanging around in the gutter of the Interweb casting pearls before swine, to mix a couple of bad metaphors.

BTW, I see JW's appeal is still at ... $325!!! He's well on the way, and that (rather stationary..) number is surely a good measure of the denier movement's effectiveness, and.. er.. value. foo, ppk, why haven't you sunk your fortunes into that - surely it's the best investment out there...?


Anyway, g'nite all. I'm sure some here will be pleased to see the back of me, but you'll find me elsewhere if you ever get brave enough to take your ideas onto forums that actually count...

I'll message one of the regulars with the radiation links. Anyway, many of you know where to find me. It's not like I use a different name elsewhere...

Enjoy this post while it lasts! (And thanks ever so to the moderators - look at this thread with pride - you deserve it..)

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Do try to pay attention!!

The suits were not flexible enough for those pictures to be taken in one second.

Those three photos were NOT taken in "one second"!!!

AND, the point of the "golf swing" example has nothing AT ALL to do with the mobility of just the one arm, swinging a tool...the point was a TWO_handed "normal" golf swing of any substantial motion, to be similar to what one would do unencumbered!! (Gosh...normal thinking people can understand this simple fact....).


Actually, the fanaticism being displayed by someone here (not YOU....of course, you are still catching up, apparently) over such benign photos; three quick "action snaps" is borderline INSANE.

What I then saw posted, most recently, was a veiled disgusting VILE innuendo accusing NASA of murder!!

That went over the top, beyond the pale of dignity, respect, and rational, logical thought.

It shows evidence of the basest of the worst in Humanity....and in the hoax believers in general. There is nothing else to say to such abhorrent behavior. I certainly hope all of the readers grasp this, and understand its significance....and the INSIGNIFICANCE of the person being referred to.

I have a can of 'Troll-B-Gone' spray here somewhere.....

reply to post by FoosM

These photos are equivalent to what Building 7 is to 9/11.
This issue is the line in the sand. I would say it is even stronger than JW's upcoming 8 hour expose on moon rocks. And for the entire pack of Apollo defenders to be quiet on this issue, save for DJW, speaks volumes.

Why? What makes these three photos so important? And why would NASA make the effort to produce them? Or, if you think these represent a mistake, why did they release them. Unless you can explain how and why they were produced, you have nothing but an opinion about an event you didn't see.

Aww sookie saki, here we go:

Its not the long awaited moon rock epic... but it should serve as some distraction from our current debate.

Phil Webb has responded to my "TETR-A? What TETR-A?" series, this is the final of my responses.

In his TETR-A video, Webb accused Aron Ranen of taking Frank Byrne out context by tampering with the audio. He based this claim on Byrne's voice suddenly getting louder when the camera pans from his face and gets close to a photograph he's holding.

In my 'TETR-A? What TETR-A?' video, I pointed out that the sound naturally gets louder if you hold the camera closer to the person's mouth - as was the case in the Frank Byrne interview. Webb responded by pointing out Byrne was wearing a lapel mic. This is irrelevant: whether a filmmaker choose to use the audio from the lapel mic or the audio from the camera mic is completely his or her own choice. If it sounds good use it. Sometimes the camera mic does a good enough job of recording sound.

Besides, Byrne's statement is "This was one of the antennas which received telemetry data from spacecraft"

The last four words is where the sound level changes. Frank Byrne was the head of the KSC telemetry receiving station. So if last four words were cut and spliced into his statement, what else would the head of a TELEMETRY receiving station use the antenna to receive?

Webb is clearly clutching at straws.

Originally posted by ppk55

This quote from Milt Windler, Flight Director of Apollo 14 adds to your case foos. The suits were not flexible enough for those pictures to be taken in one second.

"Shepard could only swing with one hand because of his bulky suit"

Original source: www.therepublic.com...

If they can't play golf using two hands because of a 'bulky suit', then how could Schmitt transfer the sampler handle so easily and so quickly. The mystery deepens.

Good point!
We have seen in many videos how difficult it was to work with tools in those bulky suits and gloves.
Their actions were generally methodical and therefore ate time.

So those pictures so far have brought up issues with
Time, movement, objects, reflections, backgrounds and continuity.

Not to mention the original coke bottle

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by FoosM

 

What evidence, in any area of the mission, or the science, would sway your opinion one way or another?

You've seen my posts..
I'm truly on the fence on this one..

I just haven't seen what IMO is the smoking gun yet..

Well let me ask it this way.

What put you on the fence in the first place?
I mean, given the evidence and science behind the moon landing, why dont you believe in it wholeheartedly?
What made you, or makes you doubt any aspect of it?

This is a question for any of you fence-sitters, doubters and nonbelievers as well, what made you doubt the evidence of the moon landing?

Originally posted by CHRLZ

I'll message one of the regulars with the radiation links. Anyway, many of you know where to find me. It's not like I use a different name elsewhere...

Enjoy this post while it lasts! (And thanks ever so to the moderators - look at this thread with pride - you deserve it..)

So this really got you stumped, huh:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/884a51b09379.gif[/atsimg]

Do you think we will ever see your evidence that humans could fly through the VABs, Interstellar solar storms, and land on an irradiated moon with 1960's materials, engineering and science? Anytime before JW unleashes his 8 hour documentary on moon rocks?


Another one Bites the Dust

Originally posted by FoosM
So this really got you stumped, huh:
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I'm totally losing track of this thread so sorry. But exactly what's the problem here?

Originally posted by FoosM

Originally posted by Facefirst

Originally posted by FoosMrocks. And for the entire pack of Apollo defenders to be quiet on this issue, save for DJW, speaks volumes.

Some of us have lives.

The more and more I look into the NASA evidence.... I believe we landed men on the moon.

To think that a functional infrastructure of 400,000 people was nothing more than a ruse is laughable.

Someone out of those 400,000 involved with NASA would have fessed up by now.

We have covered this before.
Its called NEED TO KNOW & Compartmentalization.
In other words, 400,000 people were not aware of the scam and cover-up.
Apollo defenders keep wanting to bandy that figure around without any justification or proof of what that number really represents. It doesn't take 400,000 people to fake a movie or take pictures. It doesnt take 400,000 people to feed data from a simulation as the real thing.

And for those in the know, like the Astronauts... well:

(warning graphic)
Grissom
www.documentingreality.com...
White
www.documentingreality.com...
Chaffee
www.documentingreality.com...

This kept them in-line.

The only consistent factor I can find with the HB believers is a lack of understanding of science, photography and basic physics.

Not true. Its the contradiction in the science & visual evidence such as photography that raises flags.
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Jarrah White has been disproved more times than I can count. (keep rubbing those balloons on your head Jarrah!)

Not true. Counter arguments =/= disproved.

I'm thoroughly convinced of the landings, out of this pathetic debate and in celebration of that, am going to take a tour of JPL (which just happens to be in my neighborhood)

I dont blame you, this series has been a stumper:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e54f69c83a3c.gif[/atsimg]

So to blockade any creeping doubts, it will be necessary to surround yourself with NASA propaganda to keep the fantasy alive in your mind.

Ciao moon hoax conspirators, wherever you are.....

Take care !

YOU SICK BASTARD.

POSTING PHOTOS OF DEAD ASTRONAUTS?

I've been a member of this board for almost a decade and I have never been more offended.

You truly think that NASA would kill their own people? To keep them quiet?

PROVE IT!!!! You sicko.

And it's a fantasy?

Do you have any idea how a large infrastructure works? Or the coordination that goes into such an effort?

Have you ever been involved in any large scale operations?

You obviously haven't.

You have shown a COMPLETE lack of understanding of photography. Laughable at best.

You don't understand exposure..... it's not even worth going into.... I truly suggest you go to a local college and take a few basic courses in photography and physics. You have been picked apart and shamed so many times that you can't see your own butt getting kicked. That explains a desperate measure like posting photos of dead men. Honorable dead men I might add. Nothing like you.

You hoaxers are a sick lot. Do a quick little search around the web to see how many boards Jarrah has been kicked off of due to his vile, sociopathic, sick nature. Rene was kicked out of Mensa as well. And Sibrel was arrested last year for behaving like a psychopath. See a pattern emerging? You sound like you need some help as well.

CIAO.

Originally posted by Facefirst

You hoaxers are a sick lot. Do a quick little search around the web to see how many boards Jarrah has been kicked off of due to his vile, sociopathic, sick nature. Rene was kicked out of Mensa as well. And Sibrel was arrested last year for behaving like a psychopath. See a pattern emerging? You sound like you need some help as well.

CIAO.

I take it that
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/53b331ce7bce.gif[/atsimg]

has you stumped too.

Originally posted by PsykoOps

Originally posted by FoosM
So this really got you stumped, huh:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/884a51b09379.gif[/atsimg]

I'm totally losing track of this thread so sorry. But exactly what's the problem here?

based on the location and angle of that camera,
what is that a reflection of, and why wouldnt it be the blackness of space?

reply to post by FoosM


Looks like everyone is leaving..
Maybe we can post now without being called liars..

Originally posted by FoosM

Originally posted by PsykoOps

Originally posted by FoosM
So this really got you stumped, huh:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/884a51b09379.gif[/atsimg]

I'm totally losing track of this thread so sorry. But exactly what's the problem here?

based on the location and angle of that camera,
what is that a reflection of, and why wouldnt it be the blackness of space?

So what angle is the camera Foosm! please tell us ?

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by FoosM

 

Looks like everyone is leaving..
Maybe we can post now without being called liars..

Your not liars ,confused yes, have a lack of knowledge of the principles of photography thats a given but not liars!


Foosm probably is!

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You can roughly judge the angle from the pics...