Young Aussie genius whipping NASA in Moon Hoax Debate!

Originally posted by weedwhacker

LOOK carefully at the "turtle". See any differences? When compared to an ASTRONAUT??

Take a LOOK at many, many Humans on Earth, carrying heavy BACKPACKS.....see how they "struggle"???

I disagreed with DJW001's theory that an astronaut could turn or rotate his torso to place an object behind while sitting in the Lunar Rover. All you have to do is agree or disagree with me or DJW001. So which is it, do you think that an astronaut with a PLSS could actually turn his body from a seated position to place an object, in this case the LRV Sampler, directly behind him?

NOW....(and this is very important).....SHOW a video of an Apollo Astronaut on his BACK, "like a turtle"....

Just one will do.....ONE video. ONE. WILL. SUFFICE.

I did Weed, I did.

Originally posted by DJW001
You then correctly state that it started in his left hand. Why would you ask how he managed to "pull out" the LRV sampler if it was already in his hand? The question makes no sense.

I forgot to address this question.

The Sampler is in his hand.
There is no question about it.

The question is, if he had the sampler in his hand while jumping into Rover,
how did he manage to place it where its placed?

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As you can see the Sampler is vertical.
It even appears that it would go through the floorboard of the Rover.
But lets assume the other end is simply on the floorboard.

So either it was in his hand and he placed it there in that position.
Or, it was already in that position and he pulled it out.

Either one doesnt make sense in the context that this astronaut is in the middle of a jump!
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So it doesn't matter which you choose frankly.

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Hi Foosm

You may have made a couple of mistakes re theses pictures on lunch and on mobile so will post later what I think has happened here.

Will be on later when I get home first clue you are wrong about picture above and from digging around the NASA site when the pictures were taken ie total time.

Later! !!!

Remember this post:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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We see
"170 EXPS remaining"

I do want to update that post by providing another image showing this counter/label or whatever you want to call it.

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next.nasa.gov...

So during training exercise from Apollo 15 we have a Hassie with the counter/label stating 180 EXPS remaining.
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Im also curious about this map.
Can anyone confirm if that is a map of the landing site?
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I see another different thing.

By the 170 exps the '200 button' is not pushed in...you can see a shadow.

By the 180 exps the '200 button' is pushed in.

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Do people just reflexively 'star' your posts, when they see your name, without actually reading the content??

Because, in this post, I said you had to show ......:

Originally posted by weedwhacker
...SHOW a video of an Apollo Astronaut on his BACK, "like a turtle"....

Just one will do.....ONE video. ONE. WILL. SUFFICE.

And, you replied:

Originally posted by FoosM

I did Weed, I did.

"I did Weed, I did" ??? Is that a deliberate lie? DO people give you 'stars' now, for lying?

So Foosm

Have you spotted the mistake re this yet!

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"I did Weed, I did" ??? Is that a deliberate lie? DO people give you 'stars' now, for lying?

I find that the majority of posters don't lie Weed.
They may have a different opinion and they may be wrong.
I've seen many of them "wrong" posts starred..

Stop accusing people of lying, it's better to prove them wrong if they are..

Originally posted by webstra
I see another different thing.

By the 170 exps the '200 button' is not pushed in...you can see a shadow.

By the 180 exps the '200 button' is pushed in.

Interesting observation.
Mystery deepens.

Originally posted by weedwhacker

"I did Weed, I did" ??? Is that a deliberate lie? DO people give you 'stars' now, for lying?

Well I did, I cant help you didnt look through the videos before making the accusation.
What did you get your star(s) for ?
Calling me a liar?
Interesting.

Originally posted by wmd_2008
So Foosm

Have you spotted the mistake re this yet!

There's plenty of mistakes in the photos.
I highlighted a few of them.
If you found more, great!

Another moon hoax thread just started..
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by FoosM

There's plenty of mistakes in the photos.
I highlighted a few of them.
If you found more, great!

I just wonder if that thing his left hand is holding is the same thing he's holding in his right hand in the other pic..
It looks different to me..

Originally posted by FoosM
Im also curious about this map.
Can anyone confirm if that is a map of the landing site?

It's a map of there training/simulated landing site which was located somewhere on the Cape.

Originally posted by backinblack
I just wonder if that thing his left hand is holding is the same thing he's holding in his right hand in the other pic..
It looks different to me..

It looks the same to me. Look at the top end of it in AS17-134-20452 and then at the bottom end in AS17-134-20453. It's most definitely the same tool.

You can read more about the LRV soil sampler here.

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It looks the same to me. Look at the top end of it in AS17-134-20452 and then at the bottom end in AS17-134-20453. It's most definitely the same tool.

You can read more about the LRV soil sampler here.

So the astronaut changed it from one hand to the other and also spun it 180%...

Originally posted by backinblack
So the astronaut changed it from one hand to the other and also spun it 180%...

No spinning required. Sit down and hold onto a broom with your left hand. Have the bristles pointing up. Pass it across yourself to your right hand and the bristles will be pointing down.

Originally posted by jra

Originally posted by backinblack
So the astronaut changed it from one hand to the other and also spun it 180%...

No spinning required. Sit down and hold onto a broom with your left hand. Have the bristles pointing up. Pass it across yourself to your right hand and the bristles will be pointing down.

Umm, no..
Why would you say that ??
Spinning it 180% in a confined sitting position is a little different..

Originally posted by backinblack
Another moon hoax thread just started..
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well this goes to show that this topic is not going anywhere anytime soon.
But Im curious to see if it will come anywhere near this behemoth

Actually if everyone looks at this picture the Astronaut doesn't even have the handle in his hand!

AS17-134-20452

He grabs it with his left hand and pulls it over also if you read the journal re this event, the Astronaut that took the pictures actually had a lot of time to take the 3 pictures also look how much his position changes as he take the pictures, He couldn't move stop and take the pictures in only 4 secs could he Foosm!

From the site.

168:47:03 Cernan: Get on there one time. (Pause)
[Gene goes to the front of the Rover to take pictures of Jack jumping in his seat. The three pictures are AS17-134- 20452, 20453, and 20454.] [Cernan - "It was sort of a target of opportunity. It was just one of those (unplanned) things you do. And it's a pretty good picture."]

168:47:08 Schmitt: Ready? (Pause)

168:47:12 Cernan: I got three of them that time.

Looks like 9 secs. You dont know the exact moment he took the pictures DO YOU Foosm !!!

Originally posted by jra

Originally posted by backinblack
So the astronaut changed it from one hand to the other and also spun it 180%...

No spinning required. Sit down and hold onto a broom with your left hand. Have the bristles pointing up. Pass it across yourself to your right hand and the bristles will be pointing down.

Now lets be honest here.
That does depend on where you initially hold your broom right?
and,
that also depends on if you are already sitting and not in the act of jumping into your seat.