Fifth Column Movement : The United Nations, Your Country, and Defending Your Rights...

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
You start a 5th column movement? sign me up,Leo!!!

Originally posted by mike dangerously
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

 

You start a 5th column movement?

sign me up,Leo!!!

Here's the leader who's behind the curtain.

Marvin the Martian


Now, Earthling, you will have to get his approval, before the next stage.

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
I swear my fealty to our Martian overlord.Sorry,Earth I have become a Martian sympathiser.

reply to post by mike dangerously


Considering you liked my reference to The Underground Empire, I thought you might like this website, which references quite a few key players in that book.

A Tangled Web: A History of CIA Complicity in Drug International Trafficking

And so many more.

www.youtube.com...

The France of 1789 and the USA of today have a few important elements in common: a striking inability to sort out any national problems, an arrogant, depraved, ruling elite resistant to reform and an intellectual underclass motivated by blind fury. Some signal differences: most of our even theoretically best-intentioned "leaders" - e.g., elected officials, business, education and media figures - are unable to articulate the problems we face, which go way beyond the mere distribution of political power or even wealth. (In fact much of the so-called Left, especially the faculty intellectuals, are preoccupied with esoteric sideshows around wealth, power and the ridiculous "politics" of gender.) Paul Krugman and David Brooks have no more of a clue about the implications of peak oil than Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin.

The French Revolution actually got off to a better start than the way for which it is remembered. A progressive opposition put together a new legislature, the National Assembly. They undertook the writing of a constitution. But it all fell apart rather quickly, since the dim-witted king and his cohorts didn't really get into that old changing-times spirit and their lack of cooperation - not to mention their decadence - provoked the more violent factions of the common people to form that kraken of politics, the mob. What a goddamned mess it turned into - a revolving cast of mob masters, each worse than the last, whipping up the crowds to ever more horrible enormities of human vivisection - a political process that had gone hopelessly out of control. Despite the agile precedent of their friend, the new USA, quickly resolving its own rebellion into a functioning government of law, France opted for a bloody cluster # - which went on for eight more years.

In the background of all this, something wicked this way comes in the matter of oil prices and availability. The eco-disaster underway from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill is looking every hour more like an event horizon that will rock the whole industry and, with it, the developed world. At the moment, oil is over $86 a barrel (and gasoline over $3 for regular at the pumps).

By August, it's possible that the entire country except for the editorial board of The New York Times will be members in good standing of the Tea Party, and it will have split into a dozen warring factions. By then, too many other destabilizing events will be in motion. The hangover of the British election will reveal the fatal insolvency of the UK, torpedoing the pound - a huge event that would certainly trigger a cascading fiasco of credit default swap obligations. I don't see how the global financial system emerges from that in any form recognizable to someone watching the scene in the first week of May 2010.

How it will all go down this summer in the Hamptons where, like Versailles in 1789, the elite mega-wealthy of today cavort shamelessly in a semi-private fantasy land of status vamping for the Vanity Fair shutterbugs. The Hamptons are not defensible - unless you count private hedge as an effective fortification. Any bloody-minded gang of unemployed, grievance-maddened mudlarks can creepy crawl down the Sunrise Highway to Gin Lane with firearms bought at the Walmart (and modified to full automatic in the garage). What if hundreds - thousands! - of them get the same idea? Louis XVI and his homeys probably never thought the mobs would scale the ha-has of his fabulous estate, either.

Acquired through extensive research. In addition, an ancestor to FDR, Named Clinton Roosevelt in 1841; passed on the document necessary for Karl Marx to write the "communist Manifesto" by 1848. I've got a reprinted copy.

21 November 1933 – A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, "The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank." Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law.

Same letter by FDR 1933 - A letter written by FDR to Colonel House; "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."

NOW THE TRUTH!!!! [note; We as American Citizens are considered Instruments here]

March 4, 1939 - Quote from a report of the secret committee by President Roosevelt,;

“I am making no concessions to business, or for relief. I have a military machine sufficient to stop any organized revolt. I am putting MY PEOPLE ahead of all instruments [Means American PEOPLE or assets]. I’ll have had a full understanding with Chamberlain, and we will destroy this unemployed condition with a WAR, and a WAR only. To Hell with the American people, as far as a Democracy is concerned. It does not exist. It never did, and we will never let it happen that way. I am going to crush business, infest America with all the aliens possible, and in the last analysis, declare Martial Law, and confiscate everything I need for a true and forceful Dictatorship. My New Deal is a failure, and I know it, but no one else will tell me that I must discontinue my present activities, and program.”

From the Secret Audience with the Military Appropriation Committee;
The Ways and Means Committee;
The Special War Finance Committee;

This copy was presented to me by mail through Senator Lundeen.” “The Red Fog Over America ” by William Guy Carr, 1955.

In 1841 Clinton Roosevelt published in America “The Science of Government Founded on Natural Laws”, This was nothing more than a plagiarized version of the teachings of Professor Adam Weishaupt of Frankfort University, Germany, the renegade Jesuit priest who arranged for the agenteur of the Illuminati to infiltrate into French Freemasonry in 1776 so “The Secret Power” which directed the World Revolutionary Movement, and the Conspiracy of Satan, at that time could use Freemasonry to further their secret plans and ambitious and at the same time cloak their diabolitical purpose.

The fact that FDR’s New Deal, his NRA, and other political policies and economic devices fitted perfectly into the “Long Range Plans”, of the Illuminati proved the continuity of the conspiracy from 1841 to 1945. It has been explained that Roosevelt made known his secret plans to establish a dictatorship in American in March 1939 when he gave a secret audience to some of his governments special committee. It has also been mentioned that Roosevelt was kept a virtual prisoner from after Yalta until his death presumably to prevent him telling the truth in the event his conscience troubled him when he realized that he was about to meet his maker.

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This is one example of course why the Government jumped on Hutaree so fast.

Quote from : Wikipedia : Hutaree

Hutaree is a militia group adhering to the Christian Patriot movement, based in Adrian, Michigan, in the United States.

The group was formed in early 2008.

The name "Hutaree" appears to be a neologism, that according to the group's web site means "Christian warriors".

The group was allegedly preparing for what they believed would be an apocalyptic battle with the forces of the Antichrist, who they believed would be supported and defended by local, state and federal police departments.

On their website, all police and military members who would support the current U.S. system of local, state or federal government were described as members of the "brotherhood", and were considered by the Hutaree to be "enemies".

From March 28 to March 30, 2010, nine people thought to be Hutaree members were arrested in police raids in Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana (in Hammond), for their alleged involvement in a plot to kill various police officers and possibly civilians using illegal explosives and/or firearms.

I am neither condoning the actions, pre-planned, or otherwise of Hutaree.

While they claim nine were arrested, I believe one or even two of those arrested, were most likely Undercover Agents, sent in to infiltrate, find ringleaders, and ex-filtrate them so as to use the standard operating procedures.

In other words, Agent Provocateurs, finding the most likely to be the biggest "problem".

By doing this they literally cut the head off of the organization like a snake.

My reasoning is because there were only 9 arrested, which means only 9 were violent.

1 or 2 of those "violent" ones was an infiltrated agent and did their duty.

So, while a coup was planned, via this Militia, a counter-coup was staged.

Personally, I believe those people were probably planning murder, in the name of a false cause, and while I do not condone that, neither do I see that Government is right in anything they have done, because if the Government were being run correctly, and listening to the citizens of our nation, nothing of this magnitude would ever be planned, condoned, and or necessary.

In other words, what I am saying, is the people of America, are tired of being ignored.

The lobbyists, special interest groups, and other people controlling how our country is run, have a vested interest in diverting our country, and using those resources.

Without consideration, care, and or thought of the people, and this flippant irresponsibility is in my eyes, inexcusable, because America is our country, not the cowards with checkbooks, nor those who would ruin our countries good name.

All because of their greed and insatiable corruption.

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That's an interesting look at the history of what we're all talking about.

Is there any resemblance which you can see in which this fits into modern times?

The Roosevelt family was one of many who all kinds of fascinating things with power.

When it comes to the fifth column it takes all sorts of people to commit them.

Rich, poor, dictators, resistance, and even the average citizens sometimes.

Used as a cover story itself.

An example of this would be many of the alleged "alien/U.F.O. sightings".

If the people can be fooled into believing a threat is real, think War of the Worlds, then they can quite literally be used as a means to create a cover story.

[edit on 14-5-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

The FBI helped set these folks up. Its about providing the conditions necessary using the principle of the Hegelian Dialectic. The FBI and CIA work not for the US Government but for the globalist. The CIA, KGB, FBI, NSA, FEMA, British Intell (MI 5 and 6), mafia, drug Cartels, Interpol, Communist party and Mossad are all working together as history has truely demonstrated. Its about serving the Illuminati and Committeed of the 300.

All wars have been false flags and all mass shootings have been Manchurian candidates linked to nanotechnology and controlled. The ones in these groups are high up the chain while the agents are doing their job but wonder why things move slow in investigations and why they are waved off of certain bad guys.....that is the reason. They would set up their own agents to die in a heartbeat. Why do you think all those police chiefs resigned two or three years ago...they know what is coming. CIA works with MS-13 and other crime gangs preparing for the crime wave soon to come and thereby justifing the declaration of martial law. The MS-13 members arrested by cops are the ones not cooperating with the government. Felons from the 50,000 being released from Calif pens, will be trained by Blackwater, hired by private security and once martial law is declared will become the national police force. American Police Force , Hardin, montana a test case. its coming. The numbers of police in small towns and cities are being cut due to "budget" reasons? its a lie.

Good effort SKL. All we need now is someone with some cohones to implement what you are talking about. Nice template though, and I thank you for the your insight and wisdom. However how does one run with your ideas is what interests me? How do you get people to focus on one goal, one course of action? I know from talking to you that you do not advocate violence which is fine. So in the absence of violence what one act will create the momentum for change and get the ball rolling? And more importantly who will gather the troops and actually organise something that can make a difference for all?

At the end of the day we all know the system is a can of worms serving the interests of a small minority at the expense of the majority. Yet those very people are currently holding all the cards. They have the law behind them, the government, the banks and the military but one thing they do not have behind them are the people. The way i see it is you have to think big but act small, focusing on one branch at time and to help cure the tree of its illness!

Originally posted by tgambill
The FBI helped set these folks up. Its about providing the conditions necessary using the principle of the Hegelian Dialectic. The FBI and CIA work not for the US Government but for the globalist. The CIA, KGB, FBI, NSA, FEMA, British Intell (MI 5 and 6), mafia, drug Cartels, Interpol, Communist party and Mossad are all working together as history has truely demonstrated. Its about serving the Illuminati and Committeed of the 300.

Understanding the Hegelian Dialectic is often perilous for those who are ignorant of history, because it is the formula used, in order to topple kingdoms and countries.

As far as the F.B.I., they work for those people who give their orders, which is not the taxpayers, those people who ultimately pay their paychecks, and our system of Government sells us lies through propaganda based upon the American dream.

It is a dream, simply because you have to be asleep at the wheel to believe it, period.

The Central Intelligence Agency has a job to undermine any country which opposes America, even America itself, if it stands in the way of the agenda of accomplishing the mission directive of building the World Government's bureaucracy.

I do not necessarily agree with your assessment of the Illuminati of Committee of 300.

There are those within all Intelligence Agencies, few and far between, mind you, who are doing their jobs because they believe in their job mission, however, they are not in positions of control, or if they are they are surrounded by people who control their every action through inaction, blackmail, or sidestepping them.

Originally posted by tgambill
All wars have been false flags and all mass shootings have been Manchurian candidates linked to nanotechnology and controlled. The ones in these groups are high up the chain while the agents are doing their job but wonder why things move slow in investigations and why they are waved off of certain bad guys.....that is the reason. They would set up their own agents to die in a heartbeat. Why do you think all those police chiefs resigned two or three years ago...they know what is coming. CIA works with MS-13 and other crime gangs preparing for the crime wave soon to come and thereby justifing the declaration of martial law. The MS-13 members arrested by cops are the ones not cooperating with the government. Felons from the 50,000 being released from Calif pens, will be trained by Blackwater, hired by private security and once martial law is declared will become the national police force. American Police Force , Hardin, montana a test case. its coming. The numbers of police in small towns and cities are being cut due to "budget" reasons? its a lie.

The Manchurian Candidate is something both sides have used over the past decades.

The problem is more often than not, no matter what the goal, no matter what the intent, the actions of said "pre-selected individual" is mishandled, mis-used, or a misnomer, because the ultimate function of that lone assassin is to fulfill a mission which not only agitates the citizenry, but galvanizes it.

Yes the cuts are a lie, but the happening of them are not, an unstable platform is being built, where the apparent instability is seen but not allowed to overflow.

The time will come soon enough when even Martial Law will not be enough.

Those contractors within Blackwater/Xe or elsewhere are simply not enough.

Personally, I see the Government making a fatal mistake, that the people will slumber.

Many, many more than they ever want to be awake, are waking and seeing everything.

Something no one within Government wants to happen that people are seeing through the lies, the lies to everyone, not just International but National.

And the mis-handling of the BP PLC Deepwater Horizon event is the final straw.

Originally posted by pharaohmoan
Good effort SKL. All we need now is someone with some cohones to implement what you are talking about. Nice template though, and I thank you for the your insight and wisdom. However how does one run with your ideas is what interests me? How do you get people to focus on one goal, one course of action? I know from talking to you that you do not advocate violence which is fine. So in the absence of violence what one act will create the momentum for change and get the ball rolling? And more importantly who will gather the troops and actually organise something that can make a difference for all?

Cojones?

We don't need no stinking cojones.

What we need is people who are intelligent.

The distinction between machismo and action and intelligent and proper action is important.

Focusing everyone's attention on one singular goal is the crux of the situation.

Violence cannot be a part of that focus.

But alas, people are ignorant to that, they see violence as the only means.

The ball is always rolling, it is whether you are able to catch it, or let it drop.

Troops?

Why is there a need for troops?

America is full of troops already.

The leadership over them is the only things which has ever been in question.

We do not need thousands, or hundreds of thousands, or even millions of troops.

We never have needed any sort of troops of any kind to do what is right.

It takes 50 men and women to ultimately run this country, and 1 man or woman to head it, I am of course referring to the 50 Governors and President.

Work smarter, not harder, as the saying goes keep it simple stupid.

No, I am not calling you stupid, it is a saying, and according to the saying, the more complicated we make things, the more likely they are to fall apart completely.

If only people were smarter and less inclined towards violence.

Our country could have been taken back shortly after J.F.K. was shot.

By the citizens of these United States of America instead of the power elite.

Originally posted by pharaohmoan
At the end of the day we all know the system is a can of worms serving the interests of a small minority at the expense of the majority. Yet those very people are currently holding all the cards. They have the law behind them, the government, the banks and the military but one thing they do not have behind them are the people. The way i see it is you have to think big but act small, focusing on one branch at time and to help cure the tree of its illness!

A small minority yes, the power elite, the families whose wealth lets them retain power.

Each and every day that the economy goes down the drain so does their wealth.

By the U.S. dollar deflating away to nothing their power ebbs out like a tide leaving.

And they hold no cards but what we let them hold and we can take the cards.

They may have the law behind them but so do we and we can use the law to our advantage.

They may have the Government behind them but so do we and we can use the Government to our advantage, Government is simply people, representing the country.

Nothing more.

They may have the banks behind them but so do we and we can use them to our advantage.

It is our money within the banks, our credit cards, and our debts, refuse their power.

Opening a Credit Union and or bank is not hard, I've looked into it, you need a group of people and some money to do it, and you can get Government assistance.

They may have the military behind them but so do we because they are our family and friends.

We do not need troops, money, or banks, we need intelligence and doing the correct things.

Why do you think that those within power silence any other groups who are not the two-party system, the Democrats and or Republicans?

Because, they know that to control Government, you have to control the two options.

The third option?

Open a non-profit, use the law to your advantage, make it have a policy think-tank, raise funds.

The Drug Cartels can only hold power over what we let them hold power over.

If we do not allow drugs and or corruption through drugs their power is null and void.

Drugs and the Cartels hold no power over me quite simply because I see them as evil.

While I will respect someone else's right to put whatever into their bodies, they also know to never bring that crap near me, and that if they do they are no longer a part of my life, period, because quite simply I see drugs as useless.

Then again I know if our Government were even remotely serious about the War on Drugs, we would go after the sources, in the Golden Triangle and Golden Crescent.

[edit on 22-6-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

Originally posted by eMachine
So, if they appoint talking heads who have a little more color, you would support them without question? That's a bit superficial, imo. I'm sure there are a lot of people who are that easy to please.

The current US ambassador to the UN is a black woman named Susan Rice. Her father is a former governor of the Federal Reserve System.

To me, it seems they are part of the same ("Anglo-American") crew. She was raised in it. Her skin tone is completely irrelevant.

Globalists don't care about race. Racial divisions and issues are a tool used to distract and divide the "masses" so that they do not see the big picture.

Those who indirectly rule the world are of many different nationalities and colors. They all share a few common ideologies which bind them together toward a common purpose:

Greed and the consolidation of power.

Most of these Globalists were born into a class system that dehumanizes the masses. We are literally considered as "serfs" who work at their behest. This thinking can be found with the elites everywhere whether it be the CEO of a corporation based in Mozambique or an Oligarch in Russia. .

They all serve to preserve the current system that favors their status and will go to whatever means is necessary to keep the power whether inherited, acquired by luck or by illicit means.

[edit on 6/22/2010 by clay2 baraka]