The Belgium Triangle

a really pimped out one hmmmmmmm. straight down thats even easier i thought it was goin up.

Btw... I read it again.. It dropped 4000 feet in one second, and radar installations registered the same drop. Btw, I was misinformed.. It was moving when it dropped.

www.netwrx1.com...


Seconds after Heading Speed Altitude
lock-on (degrees) (knots) (feet)

00 200 150 7000
01 200 150 7000
02 200 150 7000
03 200 150 7000
04 200 150 6000
05 270 560 6000
06 270 560 6000
07 270 570 6000
08 270 560 7000
09 270 550 7000
10 210 560 9000
11 210 570 10000
12 210 560 11000
13 210 570 10000
14 270 770 7000
15 270 770 6000
16 270 780 6000
17 270 790 5000
18 290 1010 4000
19 290 1000 3000
20 290 990 2000
21 290 990 1000
22 300 990 0000
22.5 300 980 0000 Break lock

Originally posted by machinegunjordan
a really pimped out one hmmmmmmm. straight down thats even easier i thought it was goin up.

Yes it would have to be.

04 200 150 6000
05 270 560 6000
here it accelerated 410 knots in 1 sec. that's just over 470 MPH

13 210 570 10000
14 270 770 7000
and to drop 3000 feet in 1 sec is over 2000MPH.

well vertical take off and landing well it could have reverse capabilities for super manueverabilitiy.

Here's what they claim to be a Belgium UFO triangle filmed in AOUT (?) 2007. I havent seen it yet.

www.dailymotion.com...

[edit on 16-1-2008 by stikkinikki]

correction: I have seen it but haven't analyzed it yet.

and here is a new (to me) San Diego footage.
www.dailymotion.com...

[edit on 16-1-2008 by stikkinikki]

Here is where the second video of the Belgium triangle is. August 2007 BTW.

www.cropcirclewaterloo.be...

It's obvious machinegunjordan is grasping for straws. There are no known conventional aircraft that resemble(in appearance or maneuverability) the Belgian UFO in any way, shape, or form.

[edit on 17-1-2008 by GeeGee]

Originally posted by stikkinikki
Here's what they claim to be a Belgium UFO triangle filmed in AOUT (?) 2007.
www.dailymotion.com...

The object tracks with the light source on the left (street light), but between seconds 23 and 25 the movement of the ufo de-synchs with the street light but still tracks with the camera movement.

Anyone see/get what i'm talking about? The object suddenly jerks like the movement tracking on CGI went out of sync for a bit.

Originally posted by stikkinikki
Here's what they claim to be a Belgium UFO triangle filmed in AOUT (?) 2007. I havent seen it yet.

They made even comparisons with the first case? In this case, there are zero witness of the event, and i don't see how can these so different cases may be somehow related: maybe because both are about a triangle?

The first case,
Object witnessed at Eupen, Wavre, Leige and Brussels
Reported in over 2,600 statements to police
Photographed by many people on both Video and Camera
Detected and Confirmed by radar stations on the ground
Detected, Confirmed and photographed on aircraft radar screens
Pursued for over an hour by two F-16s.
Assested acceleration and maneuverability out of the ordinary

This case,
Spotted, witnessed and filmed by two anonymous guys (together), and no one else
Barely seems to be able to take off
Erratic / no intentional movements
If there was a pilot inside, he was drunk to say the least
CGI fingerprints

The website which originary published the article about that sighting, also opened a thread about it, here
cropcirclewaterloo.bb-fr.com...

asking to other possible witnesses to post there: they're still waiting for the first one.
The only one who claimed to have seen it, also claimed that his sighting took place in...Barcelona, Spain
Sad, if they make comparisons between two so different cases.


[edit on 17/1/2008 by internos]

One of my favorite UFO case, my take on this, secret aircraft. A TR perhaps??

An old and very real TR

TR-1A
All new "tactical recon" TR-model based on the U-2R with side-looking radar, new avionics, and improved ECM equipment; 33 built
TR-1B
All new two-seat trainer for the TR-1A; 2 built
ER-2
Single-seat "earth resource" ER-model for NASA research
U-2S
New re-designation for the TR-1A; updated with a improved engine, improved sensors, and addition of a GPS system; 31 converted
U-2ST
New re-designated TR-1B two-seat trainer with improved engine; 4 converted

reply to post by Jazzyguy

One of my favorite UFO case, my take on this, secret aircraft. A TR perhaps??

Just a quick question here.

The wiki page you have linked to is for the U2 spyplane and it's variants.

Given it's very conventional shape would you say it looked like a triangle ?

[edit on 23-5-2008 by sherpa]

reply to post by sherpa


No, no, I mean TR ships are real.
Whether the belgium triangle is actually a modern TR, I can't be sure, only rumor that the latest TR, which is the TR-3, has that triangle shape.
Although the term TR-3 itself either it stands for Tactical Recon 3 (an evolution of spy plane), or Tier 3 which is a different ship.

Example: RQ-3 DarkStar

The RQ-3 DarkStar (known as Tier III- during development) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was operated by the US Air Force.

Whatever this craft is, man-made or alien, it demonstrates INCREDIBLE technology. There were two Belgian military officials who followed one and saw it beam two red lasers on the ground on opposite sides of the craft, and some type of probe was released from the center light/opening of it. At this time, the Belgian officials saw another triangular craft emerge behind some trees a few meters away from where they were. Quite a spectacular sight it must've been. Here is a short documentary on the event:

youtube.com...(Part 1)

youtube.com...(Part 2)

reply to post by Jazzyguy


Thank you for clarifying that for me Jazzyguy.

Any speculation on whether what has been seen is a black project/ops aircraft would seem to have to match the charcteristics of the triangles, ie shape, the ability to fly very slow down to a standstill, silent and exhibit extremely high speed, 900 knots according to one of the Belgium pilots radar lock.

reply to post by GeeGee

Belgian military officials who followed one and saw it beam two red lasers on the ground on opposite sides of the craft, and some type of probe was released from the center light/opening of it

I have not read of beams but I may have missed that part, I have read however of a glowing disk being released.

On March 30, 1990, citizens of the city of Brussels spotted a large black triangular craft hovering silently over the city for several minutes. Local police officials arrived on the scene and reported observing the object as it hovered over apartment buildings. One officer reported that the object released a red glowing disk of light from its center which flew down to the ground and darted around several buildings before disappearing. The larger craft eventually departed at high speed.

en.wikipedia.org...

Below is a map of the sightings reported from Belgium.




And a sightings map from the NIDS survey from 2002 North America.



Notice how the sightings seem to cluster around populated areas and roads/highways, really very odd behaviour for a secret aircraft.

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[edit on 24-5-2008 by sherpa]

Interesting topic, I have seen some of the photos before and I'll be sure to watch the various videos posted.

reply to post by sherpa


Thats not so strange, there are more people to report things in built up areas and less everywhere else.

reply to post by CuriosityStrikes

Thats not so strange, there are more people to report things in built up areas and less everywhere else.

A natural conclusion to come to although apparently NIDS does have some reports of Flying Triangles from remote areas, but, the point I was trying to make was in my last sentence, "really very odd behaviour for a secret aircraft".

reply to post by GeeGee

reply to post by sherpa


Yes, yes, it has to be very high tech. One word: exopolitic. Let's just say humans cannot figure out all the high end technologies so quickly by themselves, unless they got lucky.

No, secret aircrafts in general don't go anywhere near concentrated population. That is why the case fascinates me, there are a lot of (exopolitical) angles to it.

Second to that, mass sighting at this scale is unprecedented. The best mass sighting besides this one, similar set up (close up and personal) but different ship, is the Trumbull County sighting.



As for the map, the first map is the belgium triangle right?
What is the second map again (it's a US map)? Different triangles?
The links to the maps do not show.

If aliens are real, how are you going to react?

[edit on Sun, 25 May 08 by Jazzyguy]

reply to post by sherpa

Indeed, most of the behaviour reported is quite odd. To figure out if it is odd for a secret project to be seen from populated areas like this it might be good to compare the location of these sightings with sightings of the previously secret projects.

Forgot to mention, nice map you found there.

reply to post by Jazzyguy

As for the map, the first map is the belgium triangle right?

Correct.

What is the second map again (it's a US map)? Different triangles?
The links to the maps do not show.

The second map is a amalgamation of sightings reports from 3 different databases, NIDS, MUFON and Larry Hatch.








My apologies for not providing a link, the NIDS, (National Institute of Discovery Science), website is only accesible now by username and password to administrators, I do not know the reason why.

However most of the report is available HERE.

I hope this helps.

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[edit on 25-5-2008 by sherpa]