Noah's Ark Found! 99.9% sure!

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reply to post by ashanu90


Where the 'biblical' bit come from ?
There cant be floods without it being biblical?
A flood would be a 'non biblical explanaition, right ?

I just think that should prove that there was a flood, and im sure it has been more than one too, and it gives plausablility to the 'wood' being the ark, or one of them.

Havent there been claims that 'the ark' has been found other places too ?
Its like tptb added the 9/11 twin towers in the bible for the future generations as 'towers of Bush' or somthing, and the people would say 'it didnt happend, it is in the bible....

[edit on 28/4/2010 by ChemBreather]

reply to post by RussianScientists

The Ark was written about being at that location over a hundred years ago, I believe Charles Forte wrote about it in his book that he wrote, I think it's name was "Book of the Damned".

So, it has been rediscovered over and over, at that same site.

Even the US military visited it via helicopters and supposedly took artifacts from the Ark at that location.

Many people have written about it being at that location since Charles Forte wrote about it; and they "ALL" claimed to be the "Discoverers".

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I am not specifically religious but I believe the contents of the Bible is history - pure and simple, some of it might sound strange to us because of the way in which people back then described things that are today's common knowledge.

That said, the ark could well be found - If I remember correctly it was made of Balsa wood....I don't know how fast wood decomposes but if it is petrified(not claiming it is- but it's pretty common), I don't see why people would claim it does not exist...the Bible is full of historical events that we cannot ignore.

I do agree however that religious people are quick to bash the accuracy of carbon dating- (I speak from experience here) so it is quite funny to see them accept this when the only 'proof' is that of carbon dating- something they love to discredit.

Ok perhaps I am a bit slow or just tired and have missed this bit of info , but has there been any news on dimensions of this find / structure ? From the pictures given it could simply be a house , no ? I wonder why they are claiming it's a boat ?

I would love to see more pictures of this find and either way great find Any time "we" find something that has been lost to time its worthy of attention



[edit on 28-4-2010 by Max_TO]

reply to post by Max_TO


Well, in the Bible it states that the ark was made of Balsa wood- I wonder why they have not stated in the article what wood their find is made of.... if it matches, and is Balsa wood- I could well believe that this is the ark...judging by the size etc...not just carbon dating. If all this evidence apart from carbon dating matches- I believe there is a good chance that this is Noah's Ark....

Originally posted by ChemBreather
reply to post by ashanu90

 

Where the 'biblical' bit come from ?
There cant be floods without it being biblical?

You mean the big flood that covered the whole planet and apparently caught up a bunch of dinosaurs that had been dead for millions of years already? Sounds pretty biblical to me.

A flood would be a 'non biblical explanaition, right ?

Do you really just mean "a flood" or do you mean the flood mentioned in the BIBLE? There are floods all the time and rarely do I see all humanity washed away minus one family in a boat.

I just think that should prove that there was a flood, and im sure it has been more than one too, and it gives plausablility to the 'wood' being the ark, or one of them.

How does evidence of a flood from millions of years ago help this story about Noah and his ark? Are you really trying to say you think that dinosaurs were alive when Noah got onboard?

Havent there been claims that 'the ark' has been found other places too ?

YUP! The holy grail, the location of the ark of the covenant, wood and nails from Jesus' cross, etc. All these things have been "found" a whole bunch of times. That should tell you something. All these biblical items being found over and over again and yet at this very moment, NOT ONE OF THEM actually exists in anyone's hands. Hmmmm...makes ya wonder if maybe people are full of crap or if Noah planted boats on random mountains all over the middle east.

Its like tptb added the 9/11 twin towers in the bible for the future generations as 'towers of Bush' or somthing, and the people would say 'it didnt happend, it is in the bible....

Not sure what that means.

reply to post by K J Gunderson


Flood millions of years ago might be, it was a flood 6500 years ago, and because it is written about in the bible dont mean it didnt happend, it just proves they managed to fix our ancient past thru creating the bible.

If you look at the Bible, or religion as just a belife system, Im not speaking against that, I think that the bible was our ancient history that has been distorted and rewritten by the Freemasons, a hidden history if you like..

I can clearly see the purpose of doing that : Control...
King James was a 33 degree mason, just that alone should tell you it's Bogus..
And if Dinos lived 6500 years ago? I dont know, neither do you, you are just told it was a meteorite 65 million years ago, which now may turn out that they froze to death, so the science is in no way any good on this.

And other threads here at ats speaks of a sudden temp.drop which created a mini ice age 13000 thosand years ago, 6500 x 2 = 13000 x 2 = 26.000 = the Zodiac calendar...(4 worlds of 3 ages each lasting Ca.2152 years)..(Estimates, cant remember the exact years on this, but I dont think Mother Earth cares about exact dates.)

[edit on 28/4/2010 by ChemBreather]

reply to post by hadriana
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every living thing on this planet dies. including children kittens and butterflies. so god, if there is a god, does that already.

a flood would just be killing everyone at the same time..

This thread already exists.

Originally posted by ChemBreather
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

Flood millions of years ago might be, it was a flood 6500 years ago, and because it is written about in the bible dont mean it didnt happend, it just proves they managed to fix our ancient past thru creating the bible.

I am not following the logic that would have a 6500 year old flood sweeping up 65,000,000 year old animals.

If you look at the Bible, or religion as just a belife system, Im not speaking against that, I think that the bible was our ancient history that has been distorted and rewritten by the Freemasons, a hidden history if you like..

How about just made up altogether since nothing about the Noah story can even remotely begin to make sense or be logical? Even your justification is a fairy tale seeing as how your 6500 year old flood is apparently only collecting dinosaur bones on the side of one mountain. Does that really make any sense?

I can clearly see the purpose of doing that : Control...
King James was a 33 degree mason, just that alone should tell you it's Bogus..

Right, the whole thing.

And if Dinos lived 6500 years ago? I dont know, neither do you, you are just told it was a meteorite 65 million years ago, which now may turn out that they froze to death, so the science is in no way any good on this.

What do you mean neither do I? If any of the scientific evidence of this story is to be believed then they could use that same carbon dating technique on dinosaur bones if they only died a few thousand years ago. Unfortunately, that has already been proven to not be the case.

And other threads here at ats speaks of a sudden temp.drop which created a mini ice age 13000 thosand years ago, 6500 x 2 = 13000 x 2 = 26.000 = the Zodiac calendar...(4 worlds of 3 ages each lasting Ca.2152 years)..(Estimates, cant remember the exact years on this, but I dont think Mother Earth cares about exact dates.)

[edit on 28/4/2010 by ChemBreather]

OK. That proves the Noah story then?

reply to post by K J Gunderson


What to say to a guy reading nothing but 'approved science' by the same people doing all they can to keep the secrets.

There are threads here on ats about those dating methods, they are not accurate and dates 'they' dont want out among the public gets tossed away, so would any evidence of a flood 4500 BC. Why? because common sence would tell you that 'OMG this happense all the time' and suddenly the meteor impact every 100 million years or so 'safety net' is gone.

Not millions of years between these 'events' , only some thousands of years.... You take your Mainstream and have fun with that.

And the Bilbe and these other books are History, not fairytales..
Maybe the Earth have Ice ages and floods in turns, I dont know, science cant be trusted... IMO ..

If Dinosaurs twisted and mangled up against some mountain doesn't seem 'odd' too you, I dont know what to say, really.
A tornado can't carry all that 'material' there, and saying ' who cares, they are dead anyways' is totally missing the point which is 'massive forces' must have been present to do that, what is a massive force : A Flood...

I think that is the case here...To some, the pyramids and nasca-lines are still a mystery......

reply to post by hadriana

But really...I know I'm a total witch and all...but say it was all 100% true....
Who would want to worship a God that would kill every living thing on the planet? Every man, woman, CHILD, kitten, dog, butterfly and snail?

Ya uumm heh, That would be me.

You sound as if he is elected or something..See there is a major malfunction with this way of thinking. For one I'm sure you've heard a
parent to the child saying? "I brought you into this world. I can take you out".
Also if God in all his wisdom, intelligence, knowledge that makes him God.
That leaves you in a very lousy position. One might compare you to a
pimple on a nats ass to the Creator, your God, of this universe. You would sit in judgement of a God?
If the whole of life on earth had become corrupt by the wicked.
Then it no longer serves the purpose it was put here in the first place.
Your mind and absolute existence is because of him.
Nobody quetions a God. It's absolute lunacy. It's stupid.

The timing for this to be revealed as true history has come.
In fact Gods timing is always perfect. His word is indestructible.
Atheists and evolutionists you can be all bent if you want to.
The awesome site of his glory you will not be able to hate.
These are the times of the Book of Revelation.
These are also the times that all will be revealed.
All things that have been hidden, will be known.
Everything from his word, to your ignorance will be in plain view.

[edit on 28-4-2010 by randyvs]

99,9% sure eh?

LMAO!


Real archeologists disagree

the key word in the article linked in the OP is "evangelical explorers "
That just makes me laugh...

and this sentance of the article says it all:

"There's not enough H2O in the world to get an ark that high up a mountain"

reply to post by XyZeR

"There's not enough H2O in the world to get an ark that high up a mountain"

Your ignorance is something that just can't be ignored. How do mountains become mountains?

Mountains are formed by tectonic activity. Plates either smashing up against one another or over on another. (and then there are volcanic mountains, beside the point) But the question in no way addresses the issue of how much h2o it would take to get an ark up that high. Certainly nobody would claim the mountain itself to be less than 6400 yrs old, right? Why call anyone ignorant when they ask a good question....?

suck it up atheists. Your never ending Bill Mahr like stance gets tired.


257 BC Berosus, Caldean historian

"But of this ship that grounded in Armenia, some part if it still remains ... and some get pitch from the ship by scraping it off and use it for amulets to ward off evil." (p. 15).



1st C Jewish historian Flavius Josephus mentions the remains of Noah's ark 3 times.

"The Armenians call that spot the Landing-Place, for it was there that the Ark came safe to land, and they show the relics of it to this day. This flood and the Ark are mentioned by all who have written histories of the barbarians. Among these is Berosus the Chaldean, who in his description of the events of the flood writes somewhere as follows: 'It is said, moreover, that a portion of the vessel still survives in Armenia on the mountains of the Gordyaens, and that persons carry off pieces of bitumen, which they use as talismans.' These matters are also mentioned by Hieronymus the Egyptian, author of the ancient history of Phoenicia, by Mnaseas and by many others. Nicholas of Damascus in his ninety-sixth book relates the story as follows: 'There is above the country of the Minyas in Armenia a great mountain called Baris, where, as the story goes, many refugees found safety at the time of the flood, and one man, transported upon an ark, grounded upon the summit: and relics of the timber were for long preserved.'

"... the country called Carrae: it was a soil that bare amomum in great plenty: there are also in it the remains of that ark, wherein it is related that Noah escaped the deluge, and where they are still shown to such as are desirous to see them" (pp. 16-17).

180 AD Theophilus of Antioch

"And of the Ark, the remains are to this day to be seen in the Arabian mountains" (p. 17)

4th C Bishop Epiphanius of Salamis

"Do you seriously suppose that we are unable to prove our point, when even to this day the remains of Noah's Ark are shown in the country of the Kurds? Why, were one to search diligently, doubtless one would also find at the foot of the mountain the remnants of the altar where Noah, on leaving the Ark, tarried to offer clean and fatly animals as a sacrifice to the Lord God" (p.21).

4th C John Chrysostom

Do not the mountains of Armenia testify to it, where the Ark rested? And are not the remains of the Ark preserved there to this very day for our admonition" (p. 21).

610 BC Isidore of Seville

Ararat is a mountain in Armenia, where the historians testify that the Ark came to rest after the Flood. So even to this day wood remains of it are to be seen there" (p. 22)

1245 AD Jehan Haithon, a monk

"Upon the snows of Ararat a black speck is visible at all times: this is Noah's Ark" (p. 21)

1633 AD Adam Olearius

"The Armenians, and the Persians themselves, are of opinion that there are still upon the said mountain some remainders of the Ark, but that Time hath so hardened them, that they seem absolutely petrify'd. At Schamachy in Media Persia, we were shown a Crosse of a black and hard Wood, which the Inhabitants affirmed to have been made of the Wood of the Ark" (p. 22).

1856 AD Haji Yearam

"It was an unusually hot summer, so the snow and glaciers had melted more than usual. The Armenians were very reticent to undertake any expedition to the Ark because they feared God's displeasure, but the father of Haji thought that possibly the time had come when God wanted the world to know the Ark was still there and he wanted to prove to those atheists that the Bible story of the Flood and the Ark is true.

"They went inside the Ark and did considerable exploring. It was divided up into many floors and stages and compartments and had bars like animal cages off today. The whole structure was covered with a varnish or lacquer that was very thick and strong, both outside and inside the ship. The ship was built more like a great and mighty house on the hull of a ship, but without any windows. There was a great doorway of immense size, but the doo

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by XyZeR

 

"There's not enough H2O in the world to get an ark that high up a mountain"

Your ignorance is something that just can't be ignored. How do mountains become mountains?

Nice personal attack, accusing me of ignorance, while your previous post was one full of incoherent religious pseudo babble. I quoted a piece of the article i posted with a very valid argument, it's not my argument, but the argument of the scientist who see the "evangelical explorers" make claims of 99,99% sure as what it is: a nice try, but only brainwashed religious people will buy that kind of fiction.

FYI I know how mountains are formed, it's my job...
But i guess if i asked you, you'll just suggest that "god" made them....6000years ago...

Originally posted by randyvs
The timing for this to be revealed as true history has come.

Yeah this is "TRUE" history.... sigh....and you have the nerve to call me ignorant... well played sir!

suck it up atheists

That's just sad, just because someone doesn't believe in the ark "story"
he is automatically classified as a filthy athiest who shoudl suck it up.... ignorance much?

Serious question:
There is zero evidence of a worldwide flood. Let's put aside the fact that a great flood would have been physically impossible and that there are no geological records indicating one ever happened, at least while humans existed, and just use our logic on this one.

an example
Here's what the Dallas zoo needs every single day.
* A ton of hay
* 35 pounds of fish
* 50 pounds of meat
* 100 stalks of celery
* five pounds of red onions
* 100 pounds of carrots
* 25 pounds of spinach
* 15 pounds of kale
* 10 pounds of mixed vegetables
* 150 pounds of sweet potatoes
* 10 heads of cabbage
* 48 heads of romaine
* 30 ears of corn
* four loaves of wheat bread
* 24 eggs
* a pound of yogurt
* 40 pounds of bananas
* eight pounds of blueberries
* 170 oranges
* 500 apples
* 36 cantaloupes
* four papayas
* 250 rodents (the variety pack)
* 6000 mealworms
* 600 wax worms
* 7500 crickets

Remember, it rained for 40 days/nights, and then they had to wait around for the water to drain away (again, where did it go?) for some more weeks. This list of food is what the Dallas Zoo needs every day. Multiply this by 50 or 60 days... Say that Noah only needed half a ton of hay a day. That's 30 tons of hay for the whole cruise. Exactly where did they keep this? How did they gather it all in advance of the rain? If you gathered 100 pounds of hay every day, it would take you 20 days per ton. So you'd have to do nothing but gather hay for 600 days to get 30 tons together.

Now I'm using logic again here, so I'm sure I've lost you by now, but if it rained for 40 days, enough to cover the highest mountain peaks in the world, please tell me exactly where did all that water go? It would have taken years for it to evaporate or be absorbed into the soil, so where did it disappear to?

And how did the animals get there? How exactly did the wombats and kangaroos get to the middle east from Australia? Did they swim? Did the Polar bears swim tens of thousands of miles to get there?

This is such a ludicrous fairy tale I could sit here all day poking holes in this nonsense, just asking common sense questions. You don't even need science to disprove the Noah's Ark myth, just a brain.

Originally posted by ChemBreather
reply to post by K J Gunderson

 

What to say to a guy reading nothing but 'approved science' by the same people doing all they can to keep the secrets.

Again, not sure what you mean there. My bookcase has more books on religion than anything else so you can keep your suppositions to yourself if they are going to be so incredibly innacurate.

There are threads here on ats about those dating methods, they are not accurate and dates 'they' dont want out among the public gets tossed away, so would any evidence of a flood 4500 BC. Why? because common sence would tell you that 'OMG this happense all the time' and suddenly the meteor impact every 100 million years or so 'safety net' is gone.

Um...huh?

Not millions of years between these 'events' , only some thousands of years.... You take your Mainstream and have fun with that.

I can not have any fun with it until I know what in the heck you are even saying. Honestly, I have no clue what you are even talking about now. It is a shame that most conversations about religion on here go this way. I try to engage you and get a list of ramblings back in response. Do you want to try to be clear?

And the Bilbe and these other books are History, not fairytales..

What other books? Sorry, sweety but there are no history books with talking donkeys and talking bushes in them. The bible is a bunch of fairy tales and nothing else. Maybe you have been hiding the proof of talking animals and people turning to salt and the devil showing up now and then just to chat in the desert? I have not seen any of this stuff but I sure would love to.

Maybe the Earth have Ice ages and floods in turns, I dont know, science cant be trusted... IMO ..

But the bible full of fantasy that was put together but people you say purposely distorted it for their agenda can be trusted? How does that work inside your head?

If Dinosaurs twisted and mangled up against some mountain doesn't seem 'odd' too you, I dont know what to say, really.

Then why is this post so long?

A tornado can't carry all that 'material' there, and saying ' who cares, they are dead anyways' is totally missing the point which is 'massive forces' must have been present to do that, what is a massive force : A Flood...

You mean that normally, tornados take into consideration whether or not they care about what they are sweeping up? Do tornados have the capacity for mercy? Besides, I really think you need to bone up on GEOLOGY a little bit. Not only will that tell you how 65,000,000 year old bones end up where we find them, it will tell you all kinds of stuff about any floods we had.

I think that is the case here...To some, the pyramids and nasca-lines are still a mystery......

Could you possibly be more all over the place?

Originally posted by randyvs
In fact Gods timing is always perfect. His word is indestructible.
Atheists and evolutionists you can be all bent if you want to.
The awesome site of his glory you will not be able to hate.
These are the times of the Book of Revelation.
These are also the times that all will be revealed.
All things that have been hidden, will be known.
Everything from his word, to your ignorance will be in plain view.

[edit on 28-4-2010 by randyvs]

Yes, that makes just too much sense. God is perfect, all knowing, all powerful and incapable of making a mistake. That is why the things he created became so corrupt by other things he created that he had to wipe them all out and start over. That makes sense.