All Roads Lead to Rome

Originally posted by undo
there we have it, ladies and gentlemen. a lesson for those who seek to ask the really hard questions is, he's allowed to use any method necessary to prove his point, including pointing to prophecy as the vehicle of rome to depopulate the earth in the guise of sacred fulfillment. but when you ask why the vehicle is constructed in a way that perhaps disproves his theory he wants you to be censored out of existence.

Perhaps you should simply agree to disagree? It is unfair to ask him to change his opinion, that is well researched, due to sensabilities. That is not truth.

reply to post by Dock9


I sure hope so, I can't imagine a God who would want to see his people suffer and die. I think that was one of the great inventions of Rome with sending the Hebrew into Diaspora to help as a second column in their plan of conquest, and telling everyone, that the price was that steep of letting down this God, he would foresake you and punish you to no end!

It's akin to us kicking our kids out in the street the first time they soil their diapers!

Rome invented a cruel concept of God to go along with its cruel concept of utter dominance.

Thanks my friend.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


bft,
he just asked everyone to censor me because i am asking questions regarding his stance (or his source's stance) on biblical prophecy and the authenticity of the prophetical texts. it raises too many questions in my mind because i've actually studied the thing indepth for a very long time. \ again, it isn't my fault that he keeps attacking the biblical text and then calls for everyone to ignore people who disagree. what kind of free speech is he contemplating for the future? one in which you agree or you are censored!

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Thanks for taking us back to the "beginning". You did a great job tying history with conspiracy in a thoughtful and logical way. I guess with all the setups going on from Washington to the Middle East we will all be finding out how the story ends - one way or another.

In your final statement you say:

The Roman Empire that never died, that has been manipulating us to conquer ourselves and our very own world for it. Let's... tak(e) it back!

With plans this far advanced, with the manipulation of the populace for thousands of years, how can the few who believe truly take the world back and where would we start?

I see only three ways out of this situation:
1) Die proudly and hope for a better life next time 'round.
2) Mother nature who cannot be manipulated takes matters into her own hands and eliminates the manipulators. (A very satisfying thought but unlikely.)
3) Survive and hope the new world will be better than this one (not likely, but can it be worse?)

What are your thoughts on how to take back our world?

Thanks,
Wolf

[edit on 27-4-2010 by Wolftotem]

reply to post by MorfeuZ

That's a possibility. But I tend to be a lil bit more hopeful than to think we are all screwed in the end. Maybe I just don't know enough huh?

"World War III will be a guerilla information war, with no division
between military and civilian participation." Marshall McLuhan

Marshall McLuhan

That was written by a brilliant Canadian communications expert and phillosopher and writer who died in 1980 before that advent of the Internet.

I believe he was dead on the money, and I believe I am one of the guerilla's in the information war.

If I thought there was no hope, I would not write as passionately and as long and as hard. I would be out partying and finding some remote mountain retreat.

I shall fight them on the blogosphere, I shall fight them in the chat forums, I shall fight them by email, I shall fight them by Web Site, to Web Site, I shall never surrender - ProtoplasmicTraveler during the dark days of World War III!

and here's the thing that really gets me:

according to this data, not only has rome concocted the thing but plans to use it to kill all religious people, specifically of abrahamic faiths. as a solution to this dilemma, proto suggests we refuse to buy into it, by rejecting that data in the first place. now if it still happens, it will be because believers are just negative bottom feeders and got what they deserved!

he's setting this thing up to make it look like it's a really good idea to take away the free speech of some people, and for an example, he starts with a christian (who he is now trying to attach the crimes of rome to, which he knows isn 't a christian group in the first place).

give him a message for me. tell him that i've been dead once already and he doesn't scare me at all! if he wants to censor me further, he'll have to come pay me a visit.

Originally posted by MorfeuZ
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Well, IMO if this is really their plan, they underestimated the effect of the internet a lot!

We have reached a point of no return regarding awareness and information dissemination. We, as a society, won't accept any less than we have today. They would have to force a lot of CONTROL over the internet, wich imo, we won't take it.

I think they are getting desperate. Maybe they are altering their plan? Skip all the preparation and dive us all into a loong world wide conflict that will make us forget the little freedoms we had and accept whatever they impose?

That's a possibility. But I tend to be a lil bit more hopeful than to think we are all screwed in the end. Maybe I just don't know enough huh?

[edit on 27/4/2010 by MorfeuZ]

Latest False Flag Warning!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Would shut down the internet!

All this exposure can't be good for TBTB! Best disinfectant there is...Sunlight!

reply to post by Wolftotem


Pretty easy for me to describe my friend, my intention is to stand up and be counted, to fight back, using the pen which is mightier than the sword, to tear off their masks and to expose the despots and tyrants and horders for what they are.

My plan is to achieve critical mass, to be Spartacus, to encourage others to be Spartacus, to rebel, to stop feeding the system where and when ever possible, to stop letting them profit.

I have made it very hard for them to profit off of me, I am no longer oil dependent, payroll tax dependent, walmart dependent, etc., etc.,

I keep trying to promote the little guy, and enrich him, and stop enriching the State and the big corporate statist in every way I can.

They rely on us feeding them, it is us that makes them strong by doing that, it us who has given them all that they have, they haven't worked for it, they have either tricked us into giving it to them or stolen it outright.

They have declared themselves sovereign and divine and above the law, and us vassals and slaves too it.

We allow that, and we can stop allowing it, yes it will be hard, yes it will mean some sacrifice and hardship and risk, but far easier, than the road they would give us to hoe.

Thanks my friend for readign the thread, and asking and posting.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

I shall fight them on the blogosphere, I shall fight them in the chat forums, I shall fight them by email, I shall fight them by Web Site, to Web Site, I shall never surrender - ProtoplasmicTraveler during the dark days of World War III!

BRAVO !!!

Count me in for fighting the information war against the imperialists.

reply to post by MorfeuZ


oh wait. i get it now.

this is a political movement.

oh just ignore my previous posts.

i thought it was a legitimate insider info. all it is is another game of take over the capitalists. doh.

reply to post by MorfeuZ


Forgive me for being premature but I already did before you spoke!

I figured if you weren't handing out any more blue pills...

We can actually beat them, once we reject the fear, and the emotional manipulation. It's why I have no tollerance for the doom and gloom prophecies, they are all about getting people to lie down and give up.

Thanks my friend.

reply to post by undo


Did I say capitalists?

I thought I said imperialists...


hmmm
Nevermind. I won't argue with you anymore my friend. You have your convictions, let other people have theirs if you don't mind.

reply to post by MorfeuZ


i don't mind at all but notice you are on a public forum in which people have debates with each other. good.freakin.grief. if you want someone to agree with every word you say, i suggest a robot. i'm still floored that proto called for people to censor me. on a public forum.

and my only crime was trying to get him to prove to me that he was right! i know ancient history too well to just, as he put it "lay down and give up."

reply to post by MorfeuZ


Want to take a look at how hard it is to escape all Roads leading to Rome.

Lets go back to Marshall McLuhan and his statement that World War III would be a guerilla information war...

Then lets look at his biography and find this

Vatican appointment as Consultor of the Pontifical Commission for
Social Communications: 1973.

It's incredible, I mean it really is, no matter which way you turn, it's there!

Best thread I have seen/read in a long time. Great take on the main religious factions, and their process' of control.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Great post! The idea seems plausible. I was wondering do you have sources (about the actual theory claimed)? I want to read more about this theory and would love to get ahold of some published work.

Also, where did you find out about Caesar not dying in the Pompey's theatre but recovering later is Segova? I was not aware of this.

Originally posted by LordBaskettIV
Best thread I have seen/read in a long time. Great take on the main religious factions, and their process' of control.

Thanks my friend, I am glad you had a chance to read it and consider it.

To many it is a very compelling argument, and now might be a good time for us all to truly consider these things, before it gets much more out of hand.

reply to post by undo


Of course this is a discussion forum.

The thing is that you are so passionate about your convictions that you have been a lil bit too harsh defending it. This usually sends people away from discussing with someone so passionate as you demonstrated.

Let me be clear, I respect you, more then you might think, but I fear that no matter the ammount of evidence presented to you, it will never be enough. I have no problem with that, but I reserve the right to not discuss this topic with you anymore.

Cheers.

reply to post by theillestomen


It was the Senate he was attacked in, and Sebroga he recovered in. It was knowledge passed on to me through a trusted and well placed source.

Most of my research comes from reading the various treaties that end wars and establish nations including our own, and the Papal Bullahs, the rest is conjecture and speculation. I write about it all often, and this is my most comprehensive writing of it to date.

You can find Treaties and Papal Bullahs on line, and it's important to use a good legal dictionary, as old as one as possible in researching the titles and key words to get a real undertanding.

The real history of the world is in the Treaties that end wars and establish nations, those are the actual agreements between the sovereign parties that bind them, what's in the history books is mostly just to give people either national pride, or shame, depending on whether Rome thought you were naughty or nice! Or wants others to think what was done was naughty or nice.

Thanks for posting, hope that gets you pointed in the right direction to learn more.

reply to post by MorfeuZ


translation: you have an opinion (and evidence) that suggests that
PART of proto's op that claims the ancient world and all its texts and artifacts are one big lie created by rome, is incorrect and actually have provided links to the original texts, asking legitimate questions as regards them, and we view that as too passionate so you're are excused from further communications, so long, fare well and thanks for all the fish! *oh, and by the way, i respect you as long as you shut up about it and just either agree or leave the thread."


[edit on 27-4-2010 by undo]