All Roads Lead to Rome

Judaism versus Zionism

Chosen by G-d:
Abraham was the first Jew, the Father of the Jewish People.

Chosen by Rome:
Theodor Hertz was the first traitor and the leader of the zionist Legion.



Where the Torah tells about the creation of the first human being, the most prominent Jewish commentator, Rashi, explains that the earth from which Adam was formed was not taken from one spot but from various parts of the globe. Thus human dignity does not depend on the place of one's birth nor is it limited to one region.

The greatness or worth of a person is not measured by his or her outward appearance. Jews believe that Adam was created in G-d's image and that he is the common ancestor of all mankind. At this stage in human history, there is no room for privileged people who can do with others as they please. Human life is sacred and human rights are not to be denied by those who would subvert them for "national security" or for any other reason. No one knows this better than the Jews, who have been second-class citizens so often and for so long. Some Zionists, however, may differ. This is understandable because Judaism and Zionism are by no means the same. Indeed they are incompatible and irreconcilable: If one is a good Jew, one cannot be a Zionist; if one is a Zionist, one cannot be a good Jew.

For many years I have fought Zionism, as did my father before me, and I am therefore quite familiar with it. For those who have been in this fight for only the last ten or twenty years, what I have to say may be surprising or even shocking. Nevertheless these matters must be stated clearly and openly, because unless the disease of Zionism is diagnosed accurately, it cannot be cured. Too long have those opposed to Zionism engaged in daydreaming and wishful thinking. In order to recognize Zionism for what it is, one has to know about Judaism, about Zionism -- the opposite and negation of Judaism, and about Jewish history. In the time allotted to me, I am not going to talk about the actions of the Zionists; they will be adequately dealt with by others. As a Jew, I plan to discuss Zionism, which is rebellion against G-d and treason to the Jewish people.

Rome's strategic Second World War was formed by taken advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war was brought about so that Nazism was destroyed '' sacrificed '' and the political Zionism became strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine to control the region under Rome's orders until the ultimate sacrifice when Rome will launch WW3.

Zionism is a virus, a ticking bomb ready to create chaos.



Shalom

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Is the worst still to come...

Billionaire hedge fund giant George Soros told a panel discussion in Vienna that the world faced a monetary meltdown focused on Greece and that the crisis was developing in front of our eyes.

‘' We are on the verge of an economic collapse which starts, let’s say, in Greece, but it could easily spread, he said. ‘The financial system remains extremely vulnerable…

‘I think most of us actually agree that Europe’s crisis is actually centered around the euro. It’s a kind of financial crisis that is really developing. It’s foreseen. Most people realize it. It’s still developing. The authorities are actually engaged in buying time. And yet time is working against them.'’

No Plan B.

Many times Proto warned us about the end of 2012, Proto said ROME will push the world into chaos and we should expect the worst before the end of 2012.

With all the propaganda around 2012 ( which could be to prepare our mind to accept the chaos phase ), it's possible that 2008 was a stomach punch and 2011 will be the Knockout Uppercut to make the world enter 2012 in a world economic crash.

Proto said ROME's secret agenda, The New World Order, was planned to start in 2013, he said 2000-2013 are the years of Chaos and 2013-2033 are the years of Order into Chaos.

Time will tell if Proto was right but it really look like he was...in mid-May when i noticed the terrible lost this thread and all his friends had suffered, for weeks, i looked like the rabbit picture at the begining of my post, we lost a Great Man !



And what about all the Middle East conflicts, Libya-Syria-Yemen-Iran-Pakistan, is it all part of a plan to spark WW3 and help to push the world into chaos before the end of 2012?



When i found this next picture, it sent chills down my spine but i copied it to keep it because, it could well represent the last months before the New World Order...chaos..!


How many more surprising disasters were architected by ROME for the next 18 months...?

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oh.. and thank you xuenchen for your help...If you understand what I mean....

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To call the Spheres a monument to the NWO is sensationalistic oversimplification.

There is more to it than meets the eye. ;D

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Issacland,

Must make this quick as time constraints are closing in on me.

Very interesting ...your screen name.

I am aware of a religious concept which I call "Ishmaelites." Many in the west are heavily involved in this template and it encompasses many nations and leaders. Most of the Arabs are Ishmaelites as well as are many of the Zionists. Most of the wars are one Ishmaelite group fighting another Ishmaelite group.


In Issac shall thy seed be called.

I am after Issac and not Ishmael. But I am aware of the world trend and pattern to turn everyone into an Ishmaelite...including Rome...which is also of Ishmael. Of the bondwoman and her son.

Thanks,
Orangetom

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Orthodox Jews who protest against Zionism do so because we want to protect Judaism, Rome decided long ago to use the Jewish principles of faith and use it to control the population of the empire. Rome modified it to gain more credit and to promote the roman catholic sect.

Judaism became not only a rival religion but a very embarrassing souvenir, so Rome always did all they could to harm the Jewish People, attack Jews image and reputation to control it to let Rome's catholic christianity became a very powerful weapon used to control world population.

Divide and Conquer is exacly what Rome did with Judaism, Rome figured out that the only way to control the Jewish People was to divide them between Real Jews and Zionists. Theodor Herzl founded Zionism under the orders of Rome, ' Don't Get Fooled ' Zionism, Israel zionists have nothing to do with real Jewish People.

The only time that the People of Israel were permitted to have a state was two thousand years ago when the glory of the creator was upon us, and likewise in the future when the glory of the creator will once more be revealed, and the whole world will serve Him, then He Himself (without any human effort or force of arms) will grant us a kingdom founded on Divine Service.

the Torah forbids us to end the exile and establish a state and army until the Holy One, blessed He, in His Glory and Essence will redeem us. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah because arising from the exile itself is forbidden, and we are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. If we transgress this injunction, He will bring upon us (may we be spared) terrible punishment.

Let the truth be declared. The use of the Name "ISRAEL" by that State is a complete falsification. The People of Israel have nothing to do with that State. Zionism and its State have no share and no part in the true ISRAEL.

the roman empire will soon plunge the world into a very dark and horrific era and only the survivers will be able to live in the new world order, a prison planet, under the ultimate power of Rome.

Shalom

A skull and crossbones carved above the door to the most ‘prestigious’ seventh century church in Taormina, Sicily.

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A skull and crossbones.

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Talk about ‘hiding’ it in plain sight.

Fantastic thread - worth all the time (and more) to get through it.

Thank you,

peace

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Your post , which i gave you a star by the way.., made me remember that ProtoplasmicTraveler said that Skull & Bones emblem represent the resurrection of Julius Caesar and the Yale's coffin ritual, is in reality the born again ceremony of Caesar and the power of Rome.

After Zionism, Rome is my top interest. If we look closely, It's all over the world and this thread contain tremendous information about it.

Papal Bonesmen

On this page are numerous articles from reputable sources reporting on the skull and crossbones displayed on the Pope's inner coffin. Strange as it may seem, after many weeks of researching this, the Vatican has somehow prevented any photos of the pope's coffin that does in fact carry the skull and crossbones of the Masonic order.

and an entertaining video here:






AND,

The U.S. healthcare bill was "miraculously" passed on 3/22/10.......Skull & Bones 322

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by silo13

Talk about ‘hiding’ it in plain sight.

Incredible isn't, It's all over the world in buildings architectures, government procedures, powerful organisations' emblems, art, music and entertainments images and only a small Percentage of the population is able to understand those signs.

No matter the amoung of documentations, informations and proofs, the sleeping part of the population will refuse to look at the reality. I'm not only talking about the disinformant agents but those who really accept the false reality being imposed by TPTB to fooled world population to avoid them to resist or defy the secret totalitarian Roman regim.

The majority of the population is closing their eyes because they fear more the insecurity of the reality so they let TPTB designed our world in exchange of bread and circus.

Most accept the lies of the holocaust, the Jewish People suffered alot of the Hitler's madness but the losts were alot exagerated to help TPTB's plan to creat israel and promot Zionism. Hilter was under Rome's dictatorship. The world was fooled but the world population mostly accept the horors of the holocaust's half true, fear stories intead of the reality of Rome controlling those events to lead us into a New world Order. For a long time many conspiracy theorists accused the Vatican, they were close to TPTB but not quite right on it... but thanks to ProtoplasmicTraveler, we now understand that the Vatican is only one of the Legion of Rome. Secretly from the shadow , the Roman Empire designed our world, our past, our present and our futur...

Fake holocaust stories exposed by good Jew

Holocaust disproven by Jewish researcher - David Cole

How much does America spend on Israel?

Nazi Germany - A Creation of the Vatican and Jesuits

Rome, as other here have been saying, is the The Great Architect of the World, our past was designed, our present we are living in is a scripted reality and our futur is secretly being prepared so we will not have any other choice but to let Rome control our life in a world without freedom.

Everyday people are given a choice, a choice to reach for their goals or do what makes them happy. In a perfect world, these would be one in the same. Aldous Huxley presents this utopian world in his book Brave New World, where the people are governed and trained in manner. He presents a totalitarian regime that not only ensures that people are happy, but also is able to control the behavior of each individual and keep society stable. Through the use of science, people are not only created, but also conditioned to guarantee they will be happy members of society. Throughout the book, Huxley also introduces many of the main NWO philosophical issues that are social necessities for perfect stability within this society. These include the role of consumption, sexuality and emotions, the role of history, and the redefinition of religion.

Conditioning plays a large part in the success of this society. Children are taught throughout their life to be happy with their caste so they have no desire to change. The basic ideas of society are also “wedded indissolubly before the child can speak. But wordless conditioning is crude and wholesale; cannot bring home the finer distinctions, cannot inculcate the more complex courses of behavior. For that there must be words, but words without reason. In brief, hypnopaedia. The greatest moralizing an socializing force of all time” .

Conditioning is one of the main basis’ for this modern civilization. “The love of servitude cannot be established except as the result of a deep, personal revolution in the human minds and bodies” . Conditioning allows the government to establish this love of servitude and use it to their advantage in preventing such things as uprising and encouraging other things such as consumption.

We should not fear the reality, no matter how scary it could look like, Jews, Christians, Muslims and all from other religions root should united to avoid Rome to destroy our world and our Liberty. Lets not get divided by insignificant details.

Shalom

Hi, just stoped by to catch up on this epic thread and add Andrew Gavin Marshall's latest article ... Bilderberg 2011: The Rockefeller World Order and the "High Priests of Globalization"
To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing.[1]

- Denis Healey, 30-year member of the Steering Committee of the Bilderberg Group
globalresearch.ca...

www.kpfa.org... Inside story as to what is going on ,on the ground in Libya . Guns and Butter

"Report From Tripoli" with Webster Griffin Tarpley How this side street leads to the main road to Rome I leave for the listeners that are interested to discern. ...My take is that TPTB [Rome] have to over throw the socialist Libyan people to be able to suppress the truth and confuse the populace just like the west ....peace

July 13, 100 B.C.
Gaius Julius Caesar

On this day in 100 B.C., Julius Caesar—dictator in perpetuity of the Roman Republic—was born in Subura, Rome.

en.wikipedia.org...

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If you are coming from a Jewish perspective, then you should be familiar with Sar Ha-Edom.

The entire earth united could not defeat one of the Sarim, much less the chief and most powerful of the Seventy.

If you are coming from a Jewish perspective, then you should know divine intervention would be the world's only hope.

Something Proto could never handle was that humanity might not be at the top of the food chain, that archetypal powers watched and shepherded the nations, while humanity was more or less livestock at the mercy of transcendent forces far beyond its comprehension.

Shalom

Originally posted by Isaacland
“The love of servitude cannot be established except as the result of a deep, personal revolution in the human minds and bodies” . Conditioning allows the government to establish this love of servitude and use it to their advantage in preventing such things as uprising and encouraging other things such as consumption.

Iniquity!

We should not fear the reality, no matter how scary it could look like, Jews, Christians, Muslims and all from other religions root should united to avoid Rome to destroy our world and our Liberty. Lets not get divided by insignificant details.

Shalom

All are redeemable. Eventually, all will bow before the Lamb and darkness shall be no more.

Shalom

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Blue star for you my friend.. seems that, Julius Caesar related historical dates are very powerful secret sacred dates... resurrection day March 22 and birhday July 13...


July -- Julius Caesar's month Latin: July "Julius".

Julius Caesar reformed the Roman calendar (hence the Julian calendar) in 46 BC. In the process, he renamed this month after himself.


13 -- A feared Secret Number of Sacred Power


We are told that 13 is an unlucky number. The date Friday the 13th is taboo because the Knights Templar were arrested and condemned by the seneschals of Philippe IV, King of France, in a "pre-dawn raid" on Friday, October 13th, 1307. The number 13 has been shunned for centuries. Some architects omit the 13th floor from office buildings to this very day. Is it possible that the folklore associated with the number 13 is absolutely apocryphal? Or that it has become a demonized numeral precisely because it was sacred in pre-Christian times? Think about it. It is an oddly recurring sum. 12 apostles and a messiah. 12 Knights of the Round Table and King Arthur. The number 13 recurs too consistently in such significant contexts to be purely arbitrary. And of course, it’s not.

13 was a number central to certain traditions of sacred geometry, because it reflected a pattern which could be seen to exist in man, nature, and the heavens. For instance, there are 13 major joints in your body. There are 13 lunar cycles in a solar year, and the moon travels 13 degrees across the sky every day. Six circles placed around a seventh central circle is a model of geometric efficiency and perfection in the second dimension that has been known to mathematicians for ages. But this same configuration in three dimensions consists of 12 spheres arranged around one central sphere, making 13 in all - the most compact three-dimensional arrangement recurrent in nature. A commentator writing about the Aztec calendar once said that, "Thirteen is a basic structural unit in nature. It means the attracting center around which elements focus and collect." Is this, then, the reason for Christ’s 12 disciples, King Arthur’s 12 knights, or the 12 major constellations in relation to our sun? The likelihood seems great indeed.

Assuming that the number 13 played a prominent role in the sacred traditions being preserved by the Knights Templar, and that the Vatican wished to keep this from coming to light, does it not follow that they purposely chose Friday the 13th as the date upon which to arrest the Templars? In many traditions, Friday is a holy day. If our assumptions are correct, Friday the 13th would be doubly sacred to the Templars. This may well have constituted the Church’s final "screw you" to the Order whose power they so feared and envied.

13 is of particular interest to us because of Tracy Twyman’s work on the "Golden Calendar", which is based on multiples of 13, such as 26 and 52. Interestingly, our modern calendar still bears vestiges of this, and retains the concept of 52 weeks in a calendar year. According to the website dayofdestiny.com, the Aztec century was based on a unit of 52 years, and native people in South America, who believed in an impending apocalypse that would occur on a certain date, would, "ritually demolish and destroy their civilization every 52 years", as a sort of "dress rehearsal." The glyph which represents both the start and end of the Aztec calendar is known as "13 Cane", and symbolizes the death of one cycles, followed by the birth of another - the Alpha and Omega. Strangely, this is very much what the 13th rune - called "Eiwaz" - means in the Northern European mythos. It represents the balance point between light and dark, the creative force and the destructive force, or the heavens and the Underworld. It too is the Alpha and Omega at the same time. It signifies death, but it also signifies eternal life. In the traditional tarot deck, the 13th card is the Death card. It also represents not merely death, but rebirth and renewal. These were obviously pivotal concepts to ancient cultures, the understanding of which has faded down the centuries. But isn’t it remarkable that this specific notion always seems to be associated with the number 13, even in cultures as seemingly dissimilar as those of Northern Europe and South America?

Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s) are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it. And, the greatest power of all is created in the symbol(s) if the uninitiated NEVER discover that the symbol exists.

You know that the original number of states in the United States of America was 13.There are 13 leaves on the left olive branch with 13 berries. 13 stripes on the middle shield. 13 arrows on the right. 13 stars above the eagles head. 13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon. 13 letters in Annuit Coeptis. There are 13 blocks top to bottom on the pyramid. Fritz Springmeir in his The 13 Bloodlines says these 13 blocks represent the 13 Satanic family’s.

On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima. The Cuban missile crisis lasted 13 days, which suggests a ploy or fake crisis. 12 jurors and one judge =13. There is no law anywhere that requires 12 jurors. So why 12?

It is interesting to note that although the 13th rune was the central rune in the oldest runic alphabet, and the symbol around which all the others were ordered; by the time the second runic alphabet emerged, the "Eiwaz" rune was absent. What this seems to indicate is that even in very ancient times, this symbol so representative of the world-view central to Northern European thought had vanished due to the fact that the idea it represented had also been lost. This idea seems to constitute some ancient understanding of Hermetic thought. Of course, the idea didn’t simply disappear, it was kept alive by certain initiates who preserved and passed down the secrets of an esoteric tradition.

Perhaps this is why the number 13 has always been associated with magic and the occult, and why it is a number perceived to possess some mysterious yet tangible power. It is an emblem of a secret knowledge, a knowledge which does indeed confer power upon those conversant with it. It is a knowledge that religious orthodoxies have long feared and tried to suppress. 13 may be perceived as unlucky to those who fear the secret gnosis it represents, but for adherents of that gnosis it is (as it always was), a sacred number, the birthday of the Great Architect of the Roman Empire...

... Gaius Julius Caesar

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THE MOST POWERFUL CARD OF THE WORLD



American Express renamed the most powerful Card, '' The Black Card '' for '' The Centurion Card ''



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From the darkness of the Roman Empire, Julius Caesar made sure that All Roads Lead to ROME..!

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Protoplasmic Traveler and others.

I thought some of you might find this interesting. I originally posted it in Conspiracies in Religions section and only later did I realize I might want to link it to this thread.

Here is the link.

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Thanks,
Orangetom

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

THE HOLY SEE!

Which is just a permanent Observer and not bound by one little thing the United Nations does!

The head of the American Delegation and the President of the Charter Meeting of the United Nations was one Alger Hiss. A Council for Foreign Relations member, and in 1948 he just so happened to also be convicted after being indicted by a Federal Grand Jury of being a Communist Spy and was sentenced to two consecutive five year prison terms.

Alger Hiss

The world body of the UN has done a horrendous job at fulfilling it’s promises, it’s allowed the near complete takeover of Palestine to create the modern Zionist Israel State, and helped submerge the sovereignty of most nations including our own, through a number of sister and subsidiary groups such as the International Monetary Fund, the World Health Organization, and others, and is now leading the charge for Climate Change Treaties that will transfer more wealth away from America, the one nation that imagines it’s free and is armed well enough to resist one world government and Roman rule.

Ah, well we should have fought them harder...

News in the headlines today, we have the three religions now united as one joined for the cause
of Climate Change.

Is the world ready for a one world religion of Climate Change?

A Conspiracy Of The Highest Order Orchestrated By The Highest Religious Authorities

The Holy Land: The Ecological Turning Point Of The Three Religions

vaticaninsid er.lastampa.it

ROME

That the three great monotheistic religions in Jerusalem should agree on anything these days, is a miracle. But that they should choose to launch a joint appeal to world leaders on climate change – in other words, on one of the issues that have diplomats from all over the world struggling – is definitely incredible. Yet this is the aim of an initiative that will be presented.

Related News Links:
www.lpj.org
www.investors.com
Vatican Emerges From WikiLeaks As A Key Player On Global Scene
The Climate Cash Cow

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Ah interesting, I posted the big three many many pages back already there is chrislam in some christian churches, watch the big three.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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Ah interesting, I posted the big three many many pages back already there is chrislam in some christian churches, watch the big three.

Yes its very interesting news. I was aware of the movement, and did at some point expect unity...
Its one thing to suspect, its another thing to see them united under the cause.

Absolutely spine chilling.