Stephen Hawking says Aliens exist

It's amazing to me how many people here would give up everything on Earth just to know that there were intelligent alien life. Telling them we are here is akin to serving up the planet on a platter. Whether they take it or not isn't our choice, but giving it to them could be.

I totally agree with Hawking. It's absurd and extremely dangerous to want a totally alien, totally unknown force with its own will, wants, needs, and morality to come to us.

How many people here would invite a totally unknown, random person into their home (to stay as long as they wish, without your input) whom has the means to just eliminate you and take it for themselves if they wish, without being prepared for that? It's foolish, and projecting your hopes of their peaceful nature is just that, a projection. Not a fact, not logical, and extremely dangerous.



reply to post by Karma_Chameleon


You speak as if you have some inside knowledge, but won't divulge it, so there's no logical way we can believe you. Do you have some inside knowledge, or do you assume you know "The Powers that Be" and their intents and motives because you've read about them?

Originally posted by thomas_
We still don't know if there weren't or what happened here in previous "cycles" or even if humans were in fact generated here on Earth. In my opinion when it comes to humans the evolutionary theory has far too many holes in it to be considered a law. Personally I see it as a partial answer for part of a question and by no means proves that much when it comes to the human evolution.

Well we have gone back 100s of millions of years and life here has had a simple to advance progression as far as we have seen, so I'm going with what we know so far. Who knows maybe our aliens are just older earthlings of a billion or so years ago, but all of that is just imagination so far.






[edit on 25-4-2010 by Xtrozero]

Avoiding contact with aliens is just postponing the inevitable;

Our technology will continue to evolve;
Right now we are at the dawn of all electric vehicles, and pretty soon after that; it will probably evolve to some kind of free energy vehicle that wont even have wheels because the friction would make it less efficient;

Our telescopes will continue to evolve and be able to see farther and better;

Our spaceships will continue to evolve, becoming smaller, faster, more efficient and have longer range

and pretty soon we will run into aliens whether we want to or not;
while mapping stars, exploring planets, while using a super advanced version of google earth/sky etc

Originally posted by DjSharperimage
Avoiding contact with aliens is just postponing the inevitable;

Our technology will continue to evolve;
Right now we are at the dawn of all electric vehicles, and pretty soon after that; it will probably evolve to some kind of free energy vehicle that wont even have wheels because the friction would make it less efficient;

Our telescopes will continue to evolve and be able to see farther and better;

Our spaceships will continue to evolve, becoming smaller, faster, more efficient and have longer range

and pretty soon we will run into aliens whether we want to or not;
while mapping stars, exploring planets, while using a super advanced version of google earth/sky etc

I would rather meet them a long way from earth, so maybe give us 10,000 more years and we might be in a better position.

Originally posted by FoxMulder91
How are humans supposed to avoid contact with aliens?
I for one believe they have visited us and are on earth. However, I think they hold all the cards, they decide how much contact they want to have with us, not the other way around.

Well the avoid contact is based on a scenario that we have not yet met.....

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Noncompatible
Show me an alien with the technology to travel vast interstellar distances at will.

Then I'll show you an alien who would have access to virtually limitless resources.
People should really think outside the "Star Trek Alien" box.

It's hard to envisage the sheer magnitude of technological advancement (which differs greatly from theoretical science) WE still need to make simply to explore the solar system [in person].

Extrapolate from there...........

We are assuming they are this advance.....

What if an alien race...let’s say 10,000 years advance of us hollowed out an asteroid and been traveling for an extremely long period of time and they happen on earth....maybe a very different scenario from the all powerful/ all knowing alien.

Or one that is so alien that they barely recognized humans as anything more than carbon, and mines earth for their use.



[edit on 25-4-2010 by Xtrozero]

Firstly I said at will.
Secondly, define extremely long time.
Thirdly..hollow out an asteroid? Sorry it's just a tad more difficult than you make it sound.

Lastly, once again. If they have been traveling for an "extremely long time".
Well I can think we can safely surmise they can obtain all the resources they need yes ?

Maybe they simple don't like uppity hairless apes ?

reply to post by EsSeeEye


Thats why i think the ptb are right in hiding any truth they have on this issue, and i am sure they came to the same conclusions you did, and i have said the same.

Any more advanced creature should not be trusted.

reply to post by Karma_Chameleon

 

You speak as if you have some inside knowledge, but won't divulge it, so there's no logical way we can believe you. Do you have some inside knowledge, or do you assume you know "The Powers that Be" and their intents and motives because you've read about them?

I do have inside knowledge. It has nothing to do with anything that I have read I can assure you. No, I can't apply everything I know on this forum. If I were to let it all hang out, that would only cause even more problems for everyone.

Believe me, don't believe me, it really makes no difference to me.

- Karma

reply to post by Karma_Chameleon


let me guess, you claim to be psychic / "channel" aliens / whatever other nonsense.

He is right somewhat, you shouldn't expect everybody to be benign and nice. Lots of people say look at us humans were not so nice with eachother, I would have to say what makes you think aliens are as nice as humans there could be things out there that say hy by pouring fire on you it could be how they say hy on there planet. The very word alien means unknown, we as a species cant even understand eachother and you want to understand aliens. Ya good luck with that. Also if a species developed and evolved on a gas planet and went into space planets like earth it would consider devoid of resources not enough gasses. There could be entire races that pass over this planet because they see nothing intresting. We could be the mold/fungus growing on the side of the interstellar roadway. The same way you drive by whole colonys of ants and other critters on the way to work. Its not so much evil you need to wory abouth as indefference if they are so much more advanced then humans who knows what it consider's as life.

reply to post by Matrix Rising


What I don't like about this (S&F though by the way for sharing this), is he's saying for us to not make contact and to steer clear from them... but I think we should be trying to make contact.

Since we obviously are way behind in technology compared to other ET life (at least most of them, because I'm sure there are some newer species that are possibly just beginning and such) why would they just come and kill us? They may want some resources but I bet in trade we'd get something like new energy or [unfortunately] weapons systems.

It would be most amazing if we were given tech that would allow us to go interplanetary or even farther

Originally posted by highlyoriginal
reply to post by Matrix Rising

 

Since we obviously are way behind in technology compared to other ET life (at least most of them, because I'm sure there are some newer species that are possibly just beginning and such) why would they just come and kill us? They may want some resources but I bet in trade we'd get something like new energy or [unfortunately] weapons systems.

It would be most amazing if we were given tech that would allow us to go interplanetary or even farther

You assume that they even have a use for technology. We have to stop thinking inside the box. They may not require technology for travel.
They may not even know emotion as we know it. They may be in the room with you right now and you wouldn't know it. The more we know the more we realize how much we still DON'T know.

Its best to just keep researching and take things as they come. we would like to be prepared for every possibility but honestly we probably do not have the capacity to imagine all the possibilities.

Originally posted by Karma_Chameleon

I do have inside knowledge. It has nothing to do with anything that I have read I can assure you. No, I can't apply everything I know on this forum. If I were to let it all hang out, that would only cause even more problems for everyone.

Believe me, don't believe me, it really makes no difference to me.

- Karma

I think it does make a difference to you, why else you would you say you have inside knowledge. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain. I say put up or shut up.

reply to post by Karma_Chameleon


My reason for asking about your sources is you speak as if your statements should have weight behind them because you have this "inside knowledge". Unfortunately, without sharing that knowledge, there's no way we can weight your statements as anything more than someone else who makes the same claims but is simply making them up.

In other words, why say you have this inside knowledge in an attempt to sway people toward your argument when you're unable to share the proof that would actually let people believe you?

The important thing here is that Hawking is repeating what has been said many times, by other super-brilliant men:

We do NOT want their attention.
It will be the end of us.

As a matter of fact, there is a good chance that something, or somebody has been going out of their way to keep us from being discovered.

Originally posted by 11118
reply to post by thomas_

 

The Human governments use technology and tools with precision.

Most of the disc shaped ships you see are unmanned and of Human origin, they are drones.

There is that group of entities who wish to control and enslave, they feed off the negative energy of suffering and control. They think themselves only as the Creator and are lost, cut off from the life force feeding themselves off of control others and controlling of each other - pure negative energy. You need not worry, unless the vast majority of people on earth wish to be enslaved they will not be "landing" any time soon and they are far outnumbered by those who wish to serve.

The Earth is quarantined due to past events in regards to the self-destruction of ancient civilizations. Information was given by benevolent entities then used poorly. Those who wish to cross into the Earth must get permission, the negative entities cannot cross into earth without facing Love - it is like a shield, the complete opposite polarity of their being.

Remember their is no "war", the benevolent entities could crush the negative entities with ease - but they Love them and understand they too are the One Creator.

Nice, but I have to say that their love has a bitter price that they are not the ones paying. If they can intervene and transform this into Eden they should do it right away and quit playing with the farm of ants. It's time already. Lemurians and Atlanteans are long gone by now.

They don't want to judge human kind, I get it. But they are the only ones that could because most of the human kind has lost direction and real propose and we can't certainly judge anything.

Anyway... nothing will happen and everything will remain the same crap we are way too familiar with.

Originally posted by Karma_Chameleon


I made no threats. Where did you get that? What I said meant with anyone in general not necessarily with me.

Quit taking what I type out of context.

I type: " Your assumptions are going to wind up getting you into trouble if your not careful."

And you see this and are trying to get others to see this as a threat such as the "kids"? Therfore, you think I should be banned?

Whatever.

- Karma

Ummm, that kinda sounds like a threat to me. And by the way, it's "you're not careful", not "your not careful". And it can't be taken out of context, if it was just a single lined sentence/statement, as it's blunt to what you were saying. I never would have brought that up, but since you said you were smarter then Doomsday, I couldn't let it slide.

reply to post by Astyanax


I agree with you.
The people that have such a weak frame of mind are the exact same people that would panic and jump out of a window at the first sign of anything extranormal...

I always love to read peoples points of view and how they always think something from perhaps billions/trillons of miles away from US care about our best interests...

Hell next door neighbors kill each other on this planet...

It all would depend on the nature of the Species, if it was aggressive it wouldbe in it's nature to do what it wanted unless a more powerful entity intervened.

[edit on 4/25/2010 by Brainiac]

reply to post by UruFist



Do you think any transmissions from earth with any amount of power has been allowed to leave the vicinity of Earth?

What do you think the goal of a Space Station would be...

One role would be to reverse and jam transsmissions from leaving Earth.

Listening is o.k. but do you actually think any transmissions from Earth ever make it out of the Solar System?

The Government classifies everything, and i'm sure all other countries with satalites have agreed to block outgoing transmissions also...

"INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION" not "NATIONAL SPACE STATION"...

Originally posted by TravisT

Originally posted by Karma_Chameleon


I made no threats. Where did you get that? What I said meant with anyone in general not necessarily with me.

Quit taking what I type out of context.

I type: " Your assumptions are going to wind up getting you into trouble if your not careful."

And you see this and are trying to get others to see this as a threat such as the "kids"? Therfore, you think I should be banned?

Whatever.

- Karma

Ummm, that kinda sounds like a threat to me. And by the way, it's "you're not careful", not "your not careful". And it can't be taken out of context, if it was just a single lined sentence/statement, as it's blunt to what you were saying. I never would have brought that up, but since you said you were smarter then Doomsday, I couldn't let it slide.

No. Go back and read everything, not just what you want your eyes to see. DoomsdayRex made the initial snide comment in saying that I was sick. He also was implying that he was smarter than me.

Btw- it's not "then Doomsday" its "than Doomsday". See you were to busy correcting me you didn't even realize your own mistakes.

Take off your blinders my friend and then maybe you will see things as they truly are.

I meant no harm with what I typed. My appologies to anyone that took it that way.

- Karma