Feds invade farm for 5 a.m. inspection

Feds invade farm for 5 a.m. inspection
Serve warrant on farmer up to milk cows

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Posted: April 22, 2010
10:55 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily


Federal agents invaded an Amish farm in Pennsylvania at 5 a.m. to inspect cow-milking facilities then followed up the next day with a written notice that the farmer was engaged in interstate sale of raw milk in violation of the Public Health Services Act.

here:
www.wnd.com...

i dont even know what to say.

i guess the world is a much safer place.

I live right by where this happened. I didn't read or hear anything about it in local news so I'm spreading the word myself. Apparently raw milk is as dangerous as heroin that the Feds need to get involved. Ridiculous. Disturbing.

I just had a sigh of relief. Thank god they caught that illegal milk transaction. Maybe when they catch all those illegal milkers they can maybe, possibly, hopefully,... work on that drug problem.

There has to be more to this story.

Did somebody get sick from the raw milk?

Somehow something is missing, and, I do believe the farmer is playing dumb about it all.

I'm going to wait until there is an update to make a judgment call, here.

reply to post by blue_fish


I grew up on a dairy farm. I drank approximately 1 gallon of whole milk a day. Sometimes two.

I use to scoop a large glass of cream off the top of the bulk tank and drink it while in high school. I did a calorie content of that glass for a biology and chem paper while in my sophomore year. If I remember correctly it was about 7000 calories.

When I left high school I was 6'2" tall and weighed 205#. Built like a brick #house.

Now, the milk I get from the stores is watered down crap that has been pasteurized, homogenized, etc etc etc. Tastes like crap and goes through me like greased lightening.

See, you are not allowed to eat or drink something that may be good for you. You need that semi food that is provided for you.

There is so much wrong with the crap going on in our country.

edit to add

reply to post by Blanca Rose


No, this kind of crap is going on all over. Licensing or stuff for the sale of raw milk. This is who enforces it. The feds enforce their draconian ideals on what we should eat.

SOP.

[edit on 4/23/2010 by endisnighe]

Holy crap, those fascists actually followed up on this. I posted the info on their initial attempt in February. FDA Invades Non-Commercial Amish Farm in PA

I guess this is all part of the government's grand scheme of cracking down on "religious extremists".



[edit on 4/23/10 by FortAnthem]

Originally posted by Blanca Rose
There has to be more to this story.

Did somebody get sick from the raw milk?

Somehow something is missing, and, I do believe the farmer is playing dumb about it all.

I'm going to wait until there is an update to make a judgment call, here.

Here you go:

www.fda.gov...

When reading that, understand that the PMO is an ordinance and not a statute or even a code.

And when the $%&*ing amish cow squeezers #$%^ up the milk and kill someone... who gonna foot the bill?

You think god is gonna fly down on his cloud and bring dead children back to life?

It was Monsanto who did it, since they did not inject there cows with growth hormone it was just to healthy for any normal person to consume.
it was all natural - how dare that farmer interfer with interstate commerce. arrest the tit puller.

reply to post by Wertdagf


Got any statistics to back up your contention. Thought not.

I grew up in a community of dairy farmers. Amazingly enough, everyone I knew grew up drinking raw milk.

Wow, no deaths.

Still, now that the fear mongerer is here. Got any statistics on the safety of standard pasteurized, homogenized etc etc etc milk?

Please, inform the ignorant. I will be waiting for your response with baited breath.

edit to add-

From the link provided by JPZ the FDA.gov

# Is it legal to sell raw milk for human consumption? Federal regulation prohibits the introduction into interstate commerce of any unpasteurized milk product in final package form, intended for human consumption (21 CFR 1240.61). In promulgating this regulation in 1987, FDA made a number of findings relative to raw milk, including that "raw milk, no matter how carefully produced, may be unsafe." However, some states do permit the intrastate sale of raw milk intended for human consumption.

WOW, may be unsafe. Well THERE you go. I guess walking may be unsafe! Better outlaw THAT!

[edit on 4/23/2010 by endisnighe]

reply to post by endisnighe


Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't a lot of people die of milk-related sicknesses in the 1800's. I believe Abraham Lincoln's mother may have died of such a sickness.

That is not to say that raw milk cannot be safe today. Today's farmers know about hygiene and diseases and could implement programs on their farms to keep the milk safe. However, many factory farms are filthy places. I would want to pasteurize anything that came out of them.

Originally posted by Wertdagf
And when the $%&*ing amish cow squeezers #$%^ up the milk and kill someone... who gonna foot the bill?

You think god is gonna fly down on his cloud and bring dead children back to life?

Wow! Attack religion while advocating intrusive government in less than 50 words. You're good man.

Are you under the impression that pasteurization has been with humanity since time immemorial, or do you think that no one drank raw milk prior to pasteurization?

Humans consumed raw milk exclusively prior to the industrial revolution and the discovery of the pasteurization process in 1864. During the industrial revolution large populations congregated into urban areas detached from the agricultural lifestyle. Up until that point, individuals and families owned their own goats, cows, and other livestock and milked them on a daily basis.

Interestingly that same Wikipedia article goes on to state:

The Raw vs. Pasteurized Debate places the alleged health benefits of consuming raw milk against the disease threat of unpasteurized milk. Although agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and other worldwide regulatory agencies say that pathogens from raw milk make it unsafe to consume,[3] other organizations such as the Weston A. Price Foundation in its "Real Milk" campaign say that raw milk has health benefits that are destroyed in the pasteurization process and that it can be produced hygienically.

Framing raw milk's health benefits as "alleged" in spite of what was written earlier, while now clearly advocating regulation and pasteurization with this last paragraph. People have been drinking milk ever since they figured out how to squeeze a teet and get milk because that. Does your secular worship of the FDA forbid you to acknowledge that even with the FDA heavily regulating food people still die from foodborne illnesses every year in spite of that regulation?

Even in industrialized countries, up to 30% of the population of people have been reported to suffer from foodborne diseases every year. In the U.S, around 76 million cases of foodborne diseases, which resulted in 325,000 hospitalizations and 5,000 deaths, are estimated to occur each year.

Where were your precious FDA gods for those 5000 people each year? Who paid for that? What do your sacred gods say when that happens? Oooopsie!



[edit on 23-4-2010 by Jean Paul Zodeaux]

Originally posted by endisnighe

No, this kind of crap is going on all over. Licensing or stuff for the sale of raw milk. This is who enforces it. The feds enforce their draconian ideals on what we should eat.

Fine, raise your own herd for your own consumption. What you consider healthy is fine for you. While I don't even drink milk, because I don't think it's right to drink milk produced by animals for their offspring by humans.........it should be considered safe. How do you know for instance, if this farmer was giving his cows growth hormones?

Would you say it is ok for an animal to ingest human milk?

reply to post by hotpinkurinalmint


There are different grades of milk.

Grade A is the top and is what is used for human consumption.

You have dairy inspectors that come in every so often to inspect the farm and the operation. Back then it was about every 2 weeks.

As for corporate farming, I would never drink their milk raw.

Alright, milk is given different grades by inspections. Hell, our farm you could have eaten off the floor. I had actually several times. Our cows were our pets really, they all had names and we treated them well.

Every tank of milk is tested PRIOR to going into the larger storage tanks at dairies. They are tested for bacteria content plus also the standard anti mastitus and other antibiotics. These are to ensure no one could get an allergic reaction to these medicines.

Now, if a cow is given these antibiotics their milk is NOT kept. It is usually given to the calves, cats or dumped.

I would rather NOT get the rbgh injected milk. I would rather risk the VERY slim chance of a bacterial infection then the possible problems from steroids that is VERY prevalent nowadays in the Corporate farms.

Running a bacterial test on all milk sold in the raw milk format would NOT be that hard. Those test are not very expensive and are quite simple.

Of course bacteria is prevalent even in air. I am trying to recall our numbers but so much per cc was allowed to exist before the milk was downgraded. I do not recall our milk ever getting downgraded for that purpose.

Yes, back in the day, milk probably caused problems. But how are we to even know what the real causes of the problems were.

One of the largest problems nowadays in food borne contamination is from e coli. This is from the people themselves though.

There was an outbreak of that awhile back in a cheese factory. It was linked directly to a person that was not following procedure and contaminated the product after pasteurization and the production of the cheese.

Anyone in the production of the raw milk products take extra precautions because they would be liable for gross misconduct let alone the civil penalties if something were to happen.

I actually had a farmer that I use to get my milk from daily. Lately I have been lazy and going to the grocers. I think I may have to start again just because of this story.

reply to post by Blanca Rose


See my above to see my position on rgbh and other steroids.

Oh, do you feel it is torture to take milk from a cow or something?

Do you know anything about milk production in cattle? If an standard dairy cow is not fed properly they will go dry. The dairy cattle usually go into heat every 13 months or so. A single calf is usually born. Sometimes twins but very rarely.

Now, to create the milk a cow must be fed properly and a diet high in many different things. High sugar content, etc.

Yes, did you drink your mother's milk? WAS THAT WRONG?

[edit on 4/23/2010 by endisnighe]

This is sad that the feds are targeting, arguably, the least criminal segment of the American population.

Leave those folks alone. If someone wants to buy the Amish milk, let them do it.

What ever happened to caveat emptor

reply to post by endisnighe


I have an uncle in law who is a dairy farmer in Illinois. They could not get out much, so they held family reunions at their home. One thing he did for entertainment purposes was to show us, by ramming his arm up a cow, is what they do to keep a cow producing milk. Cows on dairy farms do not get the pleasure of a bull, they are kept pregnant by the dairy farmer, so yes, I have problem about it. It is like people who run puppy mills in my opinion. They force a natural reproduction for the pleasure of people. My husband also has a first cousing who makes his living off of artificially inseminating cows. No kidding, they make their living doing this.

Yes, I have a lot of problems with cows being impregnated over and over against being able to do it naturally.

Also, if you have ever visited a dairy farm, which your statements allow me to believe you haven't, the calf is taken away from it's mother immediately to allow milk production for you.

That is where veal comes from.........calves.

The way they get around those things in some areas is that the "raw drinkers" actually purchase the cow, which the farmer keeps and takes care of for them. Sometimes, two or three people will go in on the purchase of the cow. That way it is the production of their own cow and their own personal business if they drink the milk. The farmer does not "sell" the raw milk.

reply to post by Blanca Rose


Sorry, grew up on a dairy farm. We never used artificial insemination. We had a pure breed registered holstein bull for breeding purposes.

Know what a holstein is? That is the pretty black and white thingys out in the field. Guernseys are the pretty brown thingys out there in the fields.

Want to know any other thingys about dairy farming?

Are you a vegan?

You know my favorite meal? Milk fed only veal Parmesan over a bed of rigatoni.

Yeah, I didn't know what veal was.

Here is something you may not know, there is about a high % chance that when there are twins and there is a male and female calf, they will be sterile.

Know what that means? That means they will not have any hormones whatsoever. I was lucky enough to have gotten the chance to eat the steaks from those two that we had.

I have had Kobe beef, not even close to those two. Frelling delicious. I helped raise and then butcher them.

sft sft sft sft...........[sound of Hannibal]

Where would we be without federal troops storming Amish farms for our safety?

God bless you Amish head-cracking federale.