South Park Bullcrap Mohammad Censorship

Yeah, so I'm trying to enjoy the new South Park right now. The problem is, is that every time that 'Mohammad' is mentioned, its being bleeped. This was not the case last week (this is part 2 of a continued episode). There is already a thread on last week's episode, as well as the threats coming from one muslim extremist group in response to how mohammad was portrayed. Seriously annoying though, every 5th word is bleeped.

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Anyway, I wonder who made the call on this one. That stupid Muslim extremist group threatening the creators' of South park's lives might have made them timid, or perhaps comedy central is just doing their best to be non-offensive. Anyway, it's just funny that South Park, of all shows, is doing this.

Regardless, I think muslims should do a better job of choosing their battles. I hate how all muslims are painted with the same brush by neoconservative jaxazzes, and how ignorant people are when talking about complex issues, but come on. Religion, and how it is applied to the masses, is just so stupid, in general, anyway. If god, allah, mohammad, jesus and on and on are so mighty and powerful, why the hell would they care about a stupid cartoon, eating pork or shrimp, who one marries, and on and on?

Whatever, just venting. Allah Akbar.

Best,
Skunknuts

P.S. Of course it might be that they are doing this intentionally to make a point, so who knows? Either way, my point stands in terms of humans thinking that mighty religious figures they worship would care about the most trivial and inconsequential of things.

[edit on 4/21/2010 by skunknuts]

They did what? I was going to go watch the 2nd part soon and it is an outrage they forced to bleep the name. Are you sure it isn't just a South Park joke? if it isn't that is just too ignorant. Saying the name is different than showing a visage or using it in vain(though the same 1st part used Jesus' name in a joking way haha).

I will go watch it soon and let you know my thoughts on it. Seems to stupid to be true... geez, I hate censorship. D:

ALSO: Do you know if the 1st part now has the bleeps or not? If so that would be good to know but bad at the same time.

Ahhhh!! andd the ending sucked I didn't learn anything. Everything at the end was pretty muched bleeped out. Santa Jesus and stan all were bleeped out. Made me aggravated because they must have said muhammehed like 100 times and it was all bleeped. Whats the big deal?
They rip on every major religion and the only one that really made a big fuss was the radical muslims. GET OVER IT!!

Originally posted by TheBloodRed
They did what? I was going to go watch the 2nd part soon and it is an outrage they forced to bleep the name. Are you sure it isn't just a South Park joke? if it isn't that is just too ignorant. Saying the name is different than showing a visage or using it in vain(though the same 1st part used Jesus' name in a joking way haha).

I will go watch it soon and let you know my thoughts on it. Seems to stupid to be true... geez, I hate censorship. D:

ALSO: Do you know if the 1st part now has the bleeps or not? If so that would be good to know but bad at the same time.

It wasn't bleeped last week when they said 'mohammad.' Not sure if they meant to do this all along, or not. It's weird that they changed from part 1 to part 2, if they did plan it all along.

It was just real annoying, and ironically, I bet this creates more ill will towards muslims amongst a group (south park watchers) that probably aren't too prejudiced to begin with.



Best,
Skunknuts

I don't perceive created ill will, maybe just confusion. Many people don't know about the extremist threats and such so all the bleeps may be taken as just another joke. It would have no context though and end up causing confusion.

Originally posted by realboogyman
Ahhhh!! andd the ending sucked I didn't learn anything. Everything at the end was pretty muched bleeped out. Santa Jesus and stan all were bleeped out. Made me aggravated because they must have said Muhammad like 100 times and it was all bleeped. Whats the big deal?
They rip on every major religion and the only one that really made a big fuss was the radical muslims. GET OVER IT!!

Yeah, the ending (with the lesson) being totally bleeped made me think they did it intentionally. Then again, maybe they hadn't intended to bleep anything, but when having to bleep 'mohammed,' they also decided to bleep the whole end to make a point about the bleeping of mohammad.

I'm sure we'll get some answers, as it will be all over the news (which comedy central will love). In the end, this just makes secularists that would otherwise not care get mildly pissed at muslims (and religion in general), as well as just give another excuse for bubba and seth to rag on islam.

Best,
Skunknuts

[edit on 4/21/2010 by skunknuts]

I'm just glad the entire Muhammad issue is done with. (I hope so) And Cartman's father is.... I don't want to spoil it for the other fans who haven't seen it. It's insane!

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
I'm just glad the entire Muhammad issue is done with. (I hope so) And Cartman's father is.... I don't want to spoil it for the other fans who haven't seen it. It's insane!

Yeah, lol. The original chili cook-off/pube episode was definitely one of the more messed up and jarring episodes ever.

Best,
Skunknuts

Are you sure they didn't bleep it intentionally, because they knew full well that they could find some website that would have criticised the first part of the episode ?

Let's put it into perspective: there's 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, and there was only one person to my knowledge that apparently was getting psychopathic about this on some website.

Originally posted by Conspiracy Chicks fan !
Are you sure they didn't bleep it intentionally, because they knew full well that they could find some website that would have criticised the first part of the episode ?

Let's put it into perspective: there's 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, and there was only one person to my knowledge that apparently was getting psychopathic about this on some website.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure they hadn't expected to have their lives threatened, though (especially because they did NOT portray the likeness of mohammad).

I agree about the 1.3 billion muslims being tarred by a couple of idiots. I just wish there were more people (from all religions) willing to say that threatening the lives of a cartoon's creators for something so inconsequential is straight-up moronic.

Best,
Skunknuts

reply to post by Conspiracy Chicks fan !


One is of many who believe that they can kill the creators of South Park for the making fun of Muhammad.

i`ll bet it because comady central don`t want the agro here in uk thay took out the bit were hammed headed a turkey(i think, could have been something else)and put a notice up saying thay was not going to show it for whatever reason. south park don`t seem to care what anyone thinks i doubt thay did it.

For all the outrage and bluster in this thread, did anyone stop to think that maybe... they bleeped the word and any mention of the character to make a point about censorship?

reply to post by eNumbra


Yes, I did. But the company could of threatened them by canceling the show.

Originally posted by skunknuts
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure they hadn't expected to have their lives threatened, though (especially because they did NOT portray the likeness of mohammad).

I agree about the 1.3 billion muslims being tarred by a couple of idiots. I just wish there were more people (from all religions) willing to say that threatening the lives of a cartoon's creators for something so inconsequential is straight-up moronic.

Best,
Skunknuts

You could be right, I didn't actually see this episode.
But the way I look at it is that bleeping out the name is effectively locking the stable door after the door has bolted, considering that the supposed 'blasphemy' had already taken place.
Unless it was intended.

All religions, political beliefs and any other strongly held views attract their fair share of zealots, but we should attack the zealotry rather than the belief itself !

reply to post by Romantic_Rebel


Could have.

which, however makes more sense?

Two genius topical satirists making a point about the absurdity of what some muslims demand, or a company censoring the show in such a draconian way that the only way to even know Mohammad is the character being censored one has to have watched the previous episode?

Originally posted by eNumbra
For all the outrage and bluster in this thread, did anyone stop to think that maybe... they bleeped the word and any mention of the character to make a point about censorship?

Yeah, several different permutations of that possibility have been proposed.

I'm not sure 'outrage' and 'bluster' adequately capture the tenor of this thread up to this point. I, for one, expressed annoyance. Outrage is more of the 'threatening lives' type of expression, no?

Best,
Skunknuts

Originally posted by Conspiracy Chicks fan !
Are you sure they didn't bleep it intentionally, because they knew full well that they could find some website that would have criticised the first part of the episode ?

Let's put it into perspective: there's 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, and there was only one person to my knowledge that apparently was getting psychopathic about this on some website.

I kind of think they may have bleeped it on purpose. This was a best of episode and they were pointing out how ridiculous it is that Muhammad can not be mentioned. They have shown him in an old episode, i really think they were trying to make a point that this is a crazy world we live in that we can't even show this person.

The end was annoying at first and i was kind of upset but i get it now.

It is a really great lesson! You know whats great about South Park, at the end of the episode you usually learn something! Stan or Kyle tells you how it should be!

But why not this epic episode? Why did they bleep out the most epic lesson of all? Because they didn't leave it out! The lesson is if you SHOULDN'T have to censor anything. Nothing should be left out because IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. They are telling the muslim world how stupid it is to have to censor muhammad. That is what i got out of it anyways.

My guess is that it was genius commentary on the parts of the creators of South Park. I think the bleeping of Mohamed was intentionally used to show how ridiculous some religious groups are about other people "offending" their "God." I mean, common....South Park has made fun of every religion/group/organization/government/corporation/special interest group (I think you know where I'm going with this) on the planet, and yet they haven't gotten death threats until they made fun of Muslims.

Now in the rare chance that the censorship was put up intentionally to wave off a potential PR nightmare, then shame on Comedy Central and the Producers, and in my opinion, is political correctness taken way too far.


Just my $.02


Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

[edit on 21-4-2010 by truthseeker1984]

Originally posted by BeastMaster2012

Originally posted by Conspiracy Chicks fan !
Are you sure they didn't bleep it intentionally, because they knew full well that they could find some website that would have criticised the first part of the episode ?

Let's put it into perspective: there's 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, and there was only one person to my knowledge that apparently was getting psychopathic about this on some website.

I kind of think they may have bleeped it on purpose. This was a best of episode and they were pointing out how ridiculous it is that Muhammad can not be mentioned. They have shown him in an old episode, i really think they were trying to make a point that this is a crazy world we live in that we can't even show this person.

The end was annoying at first and i was kind of upset but i get it now.

It is a really great lesson! You know whats great about South Park, at the end of the episode you usually learn something! Stan or Kyle tells you how it should be!

But why not this epic episode? Why did they bleep out the most epic lesson of all? Because they didn't leave it out! The lesson is if you SHOULDN'T have to censor anything. Nothing should be left out because IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. They are telling the muslim world how stupid it is to have to censor muhammad. That is what i got out of it anyways.

Yeah, I can't tell for sure. I think it's plausible that in response to being told that 'muhammad' would be bleeped throughout the episode, Matt and Trey responded by bleeping out the entire 'lesson' at the end. Kind of a double-reverse satire, or something.

Best,
Skunknuts