fast ufos in the sky over Niagra falls Canada April 13th, 2010

so this is pretty intresting. ufo debunkers try to debunk this

www.youtube.com...

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[edit on April 18th 2010 by greeneyedleo]

I can't tell how far they are away from the camera, thus there is no way to tell how fast or how large of object we're looking at.

I can imagine they could be remote controlled model aircraft - or some type of UAV.

My best guess from the footage provided is high end kites with illuminated points for control reference.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by verylowfrequency]

That's pretty impressive footage.

Not sure what to suggest. Kites is a good idea but who knows...

I.m going to say birds that are quite a distance a way. I can see fluttering of wings...but thats just me.

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
I can't tell how far they are away from the camera, thus there is no way to tell how fast or how large of object we're looking at.

I can imagine they could be remote controlled model aircraft - or some type of UAV.

My best guess from the footage provided is high end kites with illuminated points for control reference.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by verylowfrequency]

Your kidding, right? Your not really serious are you?
Kites?
UAV?!!!
Are you paid for sounding silly, or do you do it out of, uh.., well, ignorance?
Sorry to be so harsh, but really!

Originally posted by kerazeesicko
I.m going to say birds that are quite a distance a way. I can see fluttering of wings...but thats just me

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Fluttering of wings
You must be related to( snip), er..frequency.

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[edit on 18-4-2010 by asala]

Awesome footage,
S&F

Birds? yeah right
Funny because last night i seen aeaxctly the same at 12.30am and 3 withein 10-15mins.
Some people im sure are paid to give ridiculously stupid replies.

Gotta love how the "comparison" footage of birds is orders of magnitude different than the UFO footage.

I'd go with bats over birds, though, due to the swooping flight patterns.

reply to post by Violater1


Awesome footage he says.... Yeah of bats..maybe birds...but craft...C'mon. Well as long as we got you genius's backing the OP up...he should have no problem convincing the rest of the forum..

Well it must be on a high altitude, because if ot was an insect or somthing like that the huy recording this has to run as a sprinter to maintain the object in the camera with the sky constantly behind it.
Try it yourself, try filming an insect from below and keep the stars in teh lens at all time. It is close to impossible.
And if he ran the image would be alot more shaky anyway.
So my conclusion is that it CAN'T be on a low altitude.

This is a very good footage and are for sure an UFO since we can't identify it.
Kite? Possible...but highly unlikely.
Balloon? Uhmm...no.
Bird? Birds do not stop and hover on a high altitude.
Bats fly on a low altitude as far as I know. And then we would see more wing flaps in my opinion. However, bats are still a possibility.

So we have little options left.
Either it is man made technology the world hasn't seen yet
or
It is an unknown craft or entity from this world or from another.

And since I find it more fun to believe in extra-terrestrials than military secret crafts I choose to believe that this might be some sort of E.T presence. ( Note, I am not saying it IS ET...just what I believe it is )

More over...not sure if tha dates are correct. Think I saw this clip a few days before the date stated. But it could be a similar clip though. Not sure.

S&F anyway.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by Akezzon]

You always got some moron running into a thread about UFO footage thanking the OP for such great footage only to have that footage debunked. When will the believers get tired pronouncing something as the best, great, fantastic or whatever they say before some qualified people have a say.

To me it does look like some type of bird....and if you watch close enough...you can see fluttering...to the believers it may look like it is glimmering...from the moon peoples spacecraft.

reply to post by Violater1


Instead of criticizing other posters ideas for a likely explanation of the objects in the video how about giving us your best guess of what you think they might be.

I wasn't there and the creator of the video isn't telling much. He gives us a convenient clip of birds flying in an separate clip apart from the moving lights footage and claims it as a reference. Seems to me more like a distraction rather than a reference.

So, what do we have? Some lights moving in the sky with no reference as to how far they are from the camera. Thus if they are 300 feet from the camera - as in a kite, laser light beam, or UAV type model airplane they would appear to be moving extremely fast against the stars in the background when in fact they are just moving as normal objects as I described.

I'm just giving an explanation of objects I know could look like what we see in the video. Doesn't mean they can't be something else that I'm unaware of.

Originally posted by blaws572
so this is pretty intresting. ufo debunkers try to debunk this
www.youtube.com...

Blaws572.....

Thanks for posting that interesting video.

I have embedded it here for you.



Based on a couple of similar videos posted as the subjects of recent threads, it appears to me the movement & appearance of these objects is remarkably similar to bats hunting insects at night.

Here's a video to show you how bats can move in a very erratic manner as per the video you posted, unlike the movement of birds.



Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 18-4-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

reply to post by verylowfrequency


I am with you.
Kinda tiredsome to see posts that are only done to make those who doesn't think alike look bad. That will not contribute anything.

Give a good explanation of what you see....and WHY you believe it.
That will win more points.

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Bravo! I like the bat explanation better than my kite idea and yours requires no conspiracy. Funny, I see bats all the time when I go on night walks/hikes and I didn't even think of that.

Nice footage its a shame we get so little video evidence that gets something structural but this is exactly like what I saw one christmas eve. My girlfriend wanted me to point out a satellite and I thought I'd found one untill it stopped, became crazy bright, did a 90 degree turn and shot off like they do in star trek.

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


Yupp...the pattern of the bats match more...
But since I believe the "bats" are on a higher altitude I have a hard time believing those objects to be bats. They hunt along ground level. And a few hundred feet up.

On that clip they are hunting along the water level, and you can barely see some of them since they are a bit furter away, so if they were on that high altitude I wonder if we would see them at all. Not sure really.

Doesn't their "radar" becoming rather unnecessary that high up in the air?

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

Bravo! I like the bat explanation better than my kite idea and yours requires no conspiracy. Funny, I see bats all the time when I go on night walks/hikes and I didn't even think of that.

Verylowfrequency.....

You are welcome.

To tell the truth, it was Phage who put me onto that video in another thread.

I thought I was looking at birds via NV but I couldn't understand the erratic movement. Phage then posted that video.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Akezzon
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

Yupp...the pattern of the bats match more...
But since I believe the "bats" are on a higher altitude I have a hard time believing those objects to be bats. They hunt along ground level. And a few hundred feet up.

On that clip they are hunting along the water level, and you can barely see some of them since they are a bit furter away, so if they were on that high altitude I wonder if we would see them at all. Not sure really.

Doesn't their "radar" becoming rather unnecessary that high up in the air?

Akezzon.....

I thought about those points......

- The bats are very small & therefore look as if they are at a higher altitude

- The flapping of the wings is extremely fast, making the flapping motion much harder to see on the video

- The bats still require their radar at height because they are hunting insects at height

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not