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To All TPTB/Black Ops, Time To Wake Up To Equality and Love
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Quick note: If anyone has a question for me personally please direct it to me and not Unity_99 since Unity_99 does not represent me even though Unity_99 is on the same page in many ways but for the record we are not the same people so you can expect a different reply. I thought I should add that since some are under the impression that Unity_99 and I are the same person. Thank you!
Hi Polar Warrior,
First of all where there is no first or all to Infinity I feel that the first stumbling block in our discussion is that you are under the impression/belief like the rest of the law of one subscribers that you are the ONE Creator or a piece of the ONE Creator experiencing and everyone else is a piece of the ONE Creator as well. So basically everyone is you and you are everyone even if that means infinite everyone.
From the infinite/eternal perspective where there is no time going into the future where there is no future you are 1 of the Creators like the rest of everyone among Infinite Others Creators.
If someone cannot comprehend that 1 + 1 equals 2 or that 1 Creator alone in Infinity cannot exist then they simply cannot be helped in further comprehending/understanding the true Infinite One-1 nature of Infinity.
If that is the case, the rest of everything about Infinity will be hard to understand/comprehend for that person when it comes to the fundamental basic concepts/understandings of Infinity.
Infinite Creators existing can be further understood and comprehended if one takes the time to further ponder, meditate , connect and think about it.
The fundamental basic understanding/concept of Infinity shows that if all things are merely fractions of a ONE Creator self/whole or a ONE Creator alone that ONE Creator cannot come back together or exist in Infinity as there must always be something beyond that ONE Creator or Infinity could not exist if there was only ONE Creator. Therefore ONE Creator alone has never existed in the way the Law of One explains it to be.
Eventually I will have better visualizations and a video on this but for now I will use the following to give you an idea of what is meant by the above if you are having a hard time interpreting/understanding it.
Though this short clip is demonstrating the big bang and most here probably agree that the big bang never happened but nevertheless we will use this clip as a demonstration only of an all ONE Creator once put back together and where it stands to the Infinite where there is always more than One-1 infinitely forever and ever never-ending and never forget the Beyond where there is always a Beyond. If there was only a One Creator alone Infinity could not be Infinity being limited to a whole One Creator or All making it finite with beginning and ending, start point and end point.
Focus on the first 2 seconds of this video:
Imagine that this ball of light is Infinite and only ONE Creator existing alone all put back together consisting of everyone being merely fractions of that ONE Creator. What is BEYOND that ONE Creator if it's alone after it's all put back together in it's ONE form?
Supposedly those who believe in Infinity believe it to be just that Infinity or Infinite and never-ending going on forever with a beyond always existing.
If there is only a ONE Creator alone that comes back together or at one period was only ONE Creator alone together existing then this limits Infinity to an ending by placing ALL things back together into ONE. This now means that there's nothing BEYOND that ONE Creator alone but only that ONE Creator limiting Infinity to an ending or whole placed together. Becoming finite with beginning and ending, start point and end point. So what is beyond that whole and all ONE Creator that is supposed to be an Infinite Creator once placed back together?
Infinity cannot exist with limitations and endings.
There is no ALL and there is no WHOLE when it comes to ONE thing coming back together within INFINITY.
INFINITY does not exist if there is a whole or all ONE Creator alone that once existed and comes back together existing again. INFINITY is Infinite never-ending and must always have a beyond where there is no all or whole.
When a person refers to a ONE connection between all things there is truth as all things have a connection but there are Infinite ONE-1 and Infinite ONE-1 Creators that go on Forever and Ever never-ending to Infinity & Beyond!
There is never a ONE Creator alone existing as that is an impossibility within INFINITY where there must always be Infinite and beyond or INFINITY could not be Infinity and would be limited/finite with beginning and ending, start point and end point.
Here is another food for thought video that may help some to think a little deeper where there is no deep.
You are not the murderers in the world and they are not you.
The murderers in the world were not given a mission to carry out acts of murder and they are not under anyone's order or control but they are doing it through their own freewill/agency choice.
I'm not referring to non-terrestrial entities but people on earth humans (according to one's understanding/definition of the word human) just like you are.
There are planets/existences/realms/channels/stations (Label/define/call them what you will, merely words for humans to better understand/comprehend something) that exist within duality existences where there is no evil among those experiencing as they are in more loving/utopia states of existence (though on a different level depending on what one's definition of utopia is) however duality remains in such existences where there still is a night and day with pain, emotions, sickness, mortality still remains with birth and death. Pain from injuries, emotions that come along with duality existences and so on but there is no evil performed, however freewill choice/agency remains and there is also a mutual understanding (as those experiencing such existences are on a higher level of awareness) that if one goes against their unity of Love in that existence they cannot remain and will be transferred or detained going against the Love nature of that existence. A mutual understanding that all understand and abide by and the souls/spirits of such existences are on a higher level of awareness/spirituality, a greater level of understanding clearly knowing that Evil is not Good and Hate is not Love, understanding that Love brings happiness/joy and Evil brings sadness/sorrow. If those experiencing such existence did not understand such things they would not be in such existences unless they previously chose Love and Goodness in which they did and continue to live in Love and Goodness out of their own freewill/agency choice that will always infinitely remain.
EVIL acts are not required and do not need to exist within duality existences and if one can bend/wrap their finite/temporal mind around it Infinite utopia existences within this infinite universe alone where there is no alone because beyond this infinite universe there are infinite other universes and other infinite existences/realms/channels/stations (Call them what you will) far beyond what a universe is from the finite/temporal perspective that could never be comprehended/understood unless experienced.
First of all where there is no first from the infinite/eternal perspective I updated the easily to be misunderstood/misinterpreted statement that was followed by the next sentences showing that it's the choices of opposition one to another that must be available and always be available/exist in duality existences due to freewill as freewill accompanies choices to choose one thing from the other.
Here it is again to make it easier to understand.
In duality existences both Love and Hate MUST exist as choices that can be made or it would not be duality.
If you were to read the next few sentences underneath the above statement putting it together it clears it up even more.
Here you go:
In duality, choices of opposition must exist and be available to one through freewill/choices/agency.
Doing good to others on one hand is a choice through helping, caring, sharing, giving, loving and so on.
Dong evil to others on the other hand is a choice such as abuse, rape, stealing, using, torchering, abusing and so on.
What do you recommend or suggest?
Should one go out and see what it's like to pick up a hitchhiker take them to the woods and do some horrible acts on them just to experience what it's like?
Should one secretly rape and murder someone just for fun to have added experiences in this All is good, All is Love existence?
When one drives a car those with a license and knowledge to drive they usually already know the rules and regulations on what to do and how to drive. If a person does not hit the breaks in time when a car slows down in front of them they know that the consequences to their actions may cause a fender bender or possibly worse. If someone runs a red light they are also taking a risk at getting hit or causing an accident. If someone falls asleep on the wheel while driving chances are they will get into an accident (According to human understanding/definition of the word accident) depending on if that driver is alone when it happens or how it plays out. Clearly driving on the wrong side of the freeway is a much greater risk.
When a child learns how to walk for a first time they have a tendency to fall in the learning process but once they learn how to walk it's rare that they will ever fall again. There is no need for that child to fall over and over once they learn how to walk. When a person learns that sticking their hand in a fire or on a hot stove burns they usually learn their lesson and realize that sticking their hand in a fire or on a hot stove is not the best thing to do. When someone realizes what gravity does (According to the human understanding/definition of gravity) they realize that if they jump off something high like a building or rooftop they can fall and hurt themselves. In learning about gravity the very large majority of people on earth never jump off a high rise building to fall.
All decisions/choices/actions have a consequence to action so doing things to others have consequences.
Abusing, raping, torturing, killing others comes with a consequence.
Some who have committed such acts may have not yet received the consequences to their actions just yet in this temporal existence but it always will eventually come. Some perhaps are beyond having any conscience or guilt as they have done such acts for longer periods or perhaps they believe such evil acts to be only good acts and love doing the right things. Some have been doing things to others secretly in private and continue to get away with such things. Serial killers, Mafia or Gangsters that have killed enough people to the point where it perhaps doesn't affect them as much anymore without conscience or guilt comes to mind.
The majority of religions clearly understand Evil from Good and Love from Hate.
The majority of religions understand some of those fundamental basic truths that Evil is not Good and Love is not Hate.
If I was to take a guess at it according to the information available, the law of one way of thinking falls into the 0.01% category if that.
Murdering, raping, torturing, abusing is not GOOD but EVIL.
Do you have children, sisters, brothers or parents still alive?
Is it OK if someone came over and rapes, tortures and kills them?
Do you feel good about that?
Would you stand by and just accept it with open arms?
Is it OK if I kill my children and family?
Could you do that to your own family and is it OK?
I've answered most of the questions that you've previously asked in the previous posts but perhaps you've missed the answers. I feel that you are either skimming through the posts or you are misunderstanding/misinterpreting them.
I also pick and choose who and what I reply to and that is my freewill. I genuinely believe you mean well Polar Warrior but I can see that you have really taken some of this to heart and you should because it has everything to do with where you go after this life.
Are you a loving person or do you consider yourself to be a loving person?
If so what is Love to you if you consider Hate to be Love or Evil and Good to be the same?
Are you loving someone by hurting, torturing and killing them?
Is Love doing Evil to others for you?
Are you Loving someone by raping and abusing them?
Is that Love for you?
It's the ACTIONS of people that have everything to do with what LOVE is and what EVIL is.
Evil acts are murdering, raping, torturing and hurting others and so on.
Do you believe that all of the murders, rapists and abusive people out there some of which are locked up behind bars in prisons were all called by the Designers/Creators and chosen to commit such acts upon humanity?
Polarity just is that polarity and exists.
Oppositions are just that oppositions and exist.
It's the CHOICES one makes and the ACTIONS one makes that count.
I would hope not since those really are as clear as NIGHT and DAY and are the most basic fundamental understandings/concepts of duality in this existence.
If you want to believe that the positive side of a battery is negative or the positive side is the same as the negative both being only POSITIVE that is your freewill and choice.
Polarity is naturally part of the system of duality but polarity is not EVIL and DARK is not EVIL it's the actions of someone that is EVIL.
So does the Infinite Family Of Light embrace the system having unconditional Love for all infinite one-1 souls but having Love for all infinite one-1 souls does not mean having Love for evil acts but Unconditional Love for those souls that are temporally lost and experiencing an evil lifestyle headed in the wrong direction. The Eternal Family of Light only wishes/hopes/desires the best for such souls and does their best to help/assist and guide/call them back to the Love side. If you do not understand some of this yet then you have clearly not read the previous posts carefully and if you have then you have simply misinterpreted them and not understood.
If you believe that all things in this duality existence are perfect then you are living in your own dream world.
You do not understand the picture of infinity Polar Warrior, one can barely even touch upon the basic fundamental understandings/concepts of Infinity due to limitations in vocabulary/explanations/visualizations of Infinity.
Nobody can see the whole infinite picture where there is no whole and especially being temporal finite/mortal with finite/limited understanding/comprehension.
That is the very point Polarwarrior and it's nice to see you agree for once that committing murder, rape and evil acts are as you put it how not to be or how not to live.
With this understanding that there is a how not to be and how not to live way in other words a right way from a wrong way we do come to agreement that living in the Right way or Love way is the way one should live their life if they plan on going to a higher state of existence that is full of Love and Good things where there is no higher but infinite/eternal. Of course everyone in duality experiences pain, suffering, sorrow, misery, sickness, and all those hardships/tribulations/trials in life that are oppositions to happiness, joy and so on but that does not mean one must go out and rape, torture or murder people to get the point of what it would feel like and learn their lesson of how such acts would affect another. The lessons are learned by everyone born into duality through experiences such as birth, pain, illness, suffering, weakness and death. There's no need for one to commit evil acts but as we can see many out there do because of freewill choice/agency that cannot be taken away from the finite/mortal time being and must exist in duality existences having choices of opposition one to another.
I've read other threads you've posted on. Continuing with this thread just might help bring some infinite understandings to light your way which is a freeway and infinite one-1 way because you are doing it your way and if you think you have learned the tiniest particle about infinity where there is no tiny from simple OBE/Dream-state experiences think again oh yes way where there are infinite one-1 ways.
Very good, that is exactly the point and you have stated it beautifully that duality still remains even when nobody chooses negative actions but the actions and freewill choices of others to perform such negative actions still remain. As previously stated there are infinite worlds/realms/channels/existences (Call them what you will) within duality that would be considered utopia existences where only the choices to do evil remain but there is no evil performed if one can bend/wrap their mind around it.
There are planets/existences/realms/channels/stations (Label/define/call them what you will, merely words for humans to better understand/comprehend something) that exist within duality existences where there is no evil among those experiencing as they are in more loving/utopia states of existence (though on a different level depending on what one's definition of utopia is) however duality remains in such existences where there still is a night and day with pain, emotions, sickness, mortality still remains with birth and death. Pain from injuries, emotions that come along with duality existences and so on but there is no evil performed, however freewill choice/agency remains and there is also a mutual understanding (as those experiencing such existences are on a higher level of awareness) that if one goes against their unity of Love in that existence they cannot remain and will be transferred or detained going against the Love nature of that existence. A mutual understanding that all understand and abide by and the souls/spirits of such existences are on a higher level of awareness/spirituality, a greater level of understanding clearly knowing that Evil is not Good and Hate is not Love, understanding that Love brings happiness/joy and Evil brings sadness/sorrow. If those experiencing such existence did not understand such things they would not be in such existences unless they previously chose Love and Goodness in which they did and continue to live in Love and Goodness out of their own freewill/agency choice that will always infinitely remain.
EVIL acts are not required and do not need to exist within duality existences and if one can bend/wrap their finite/temporal mind around it Infinite utopia existences within this infinite universe alone where there is no alone because beyond this infinite universe there are infinite other universes and other infinite existences/realms/channels/stations (Call them what you will) far beyond what a universe is from the finite/temporal perspective that could never be comprehended/understood unless experienced.
The only way anyone on this planet experiencing will make it to Love existences is through their own freewill choices/actions and they will not make it to Love existences through murdering, raping, torturing, abusing and so on.
This does not mean they will never make it to such existences as there are infinite amounts of time where time does not exist only infinite perceptions of time according to the finite, temporal time being experiencing. This only means within earth's temporal existence if one chooses the path of murdering, raping, torturing, abusing and so on they are on that path to such existences where they will reap what they sow according to their own freewill choices/actions based on how they lived their life on earth's reality/existence/school/test (Call it what you will) but the Infinite/Eternal Family Of Light is always there with open arms and unconditional Love and understanding and will always be there to further assist those experiencing sadness, sorrow and painful existences. We love them and they are part of the Infinite/Eternal Family of Light and always will be and eventually everyone makes it to the beyond utopia existences and beyond outside of time where Dreams DO come true and there's only a perfect shared unity and love, there is no pain, there is no sorrow and there is no death, there is no duality and all things are in a perfect state of existence with happiness, love, joy, bliss and beyond all human understanding/indescribable/incomprehensible eternal/magical and beyond.
Let's definite home now shall we?
Are you referring to a place where they will suffer and experience pain, torcher and misery?
Those who commit evil acts against others and murder, rape, torture and so on are headed to negative existences.
Is that what you call home?
Those who have committed such evil acts do not go to the same places as those who did not commit such evil acts but instead lived their life to the best of their ability with every effort to live in Love making the good decisions with caring, sharing, giving and helping others and so on.
Do you choose the other state of existence with misery, pain, torture where those who commit such evil acts go?
Or do you want to make it to existences where there is a unity of love with higher awareness and a mutual understanding shared among everyone experiencing such existences where there is no evil acts, murders, rapes, wars and bloodshed to be found?
All souls have freewill experiencing and they are making their own choices on how to live their lives, there are no excuses and everyone is ultimately deciding for themselves where they head to after this temporal life/experience/existence based on their own freewill choices/actions. They are choosing where they go in the after life state of existence based on how they lived their lives and they will reap what they sow according to the eternal law of consequence to actions based on their freewill/agency choices/decisions and actions on earths temporal experience/existence/school (Call it what you will.)
Respectfully according to the law of one belief what does it matter what anyone does if All Is Good and All Is Love? What does it matter what anyone does? Everyone could shoot each other or shoot themselves or just do anything they want because according to such a belief where there is no right from wrong and All Is Good and All Is Love everyone goes home to a perfect Love state of existence regardless of their actions or what they do is this correct?
Or is there even such a thing as correct and incorrect?
According to such a belief everything is correct already or All is Good and All is Love so why should one even ask the question if something is correct or incorrect, right or wrong if All is Perfect, All is Good and All is Love?
WISELY not Naively and those who choose to live their lives based on Love and helping others and doing good things are headed in the Love/Goodness and Right direction and will make it to the Love and Good places not the other one's where souls will reap what they sow according to their actions based on how they lived their lives and how they treated others.
“What you do unto others you have only done unto yourself.”
There is truth found in the above statement where there is no above coming from the infinite/eternal perspective.
Do not misinterpret what is meant by the above where there is no above in thinking that the others are you and you are the others but this is to say that those same pains, suffering, inflictions and torturous brutal horrible acts one caused others in whatever evil acts they did will come back upon them and they will experience what they went through in one form or another equal to what they went through as a just consequence to their actions. One truly gets what they sow according to the eternal law of consequence to action based on freewill and individuality which is the greatest infinite gift that all One-1 eternal souls will always have where there is no all but infinite One-1 that can never be taken away to Infinity and Beyond!
Graduate into what state of existence is the question?
Are you referring to graduating into negative hellish states of existence that one might consider to be paradise/utopia existences for them because of their interpretation/belief they have that evil is good and
torture is fun with murder, rape and hellish types of experiences that are only really FOR THEM heavenly/paradise/utopia states of existences to those who believe in such a thing, is this what you consider to be home and graduation?
Anyone with knowledge in their possession, comprehension and understanding of the Infinite one-1 truth already knows that nothing can infinitely be destroyed as one only experiences a temporal death according to the temporal vessel/body/vehicle and FEAR is not a factor for those that already know/understand that NOTHING can change this as they have always existed and will always exist in one form/body or another.
Terminations of the soul cannot exist but due to the infinite/eternal freewill of the infinite one-1 there are infinite requests transformations of one body/consciousness to another which is a possibility but nothing seizes to exist forever. To answer your question pretending that what if yes something could terminate my eternal soul and I was faced into such a situation I would smile with no fear and if I had to sacrifice my eternal existence/soul for another or others I would happily do so with a smile because I already know deep down within that even if someone was to convince me that this is it and it's all over and they are going to terminate my spirit/soul forever that from my understanding of the Infinite One-1 I would already know that I would live on and never infinitely seize to exist in one form/body or another. Nobody can take away that infinite one-1 freewill and we choose to live forever and therefore we are and have always.
The fundamental basic understandings/concepts of Infinity and the Beyond is not my own knowledge to claim or keep but the Infinite One-1 knowledge that has always existed and will always exist and yes I can make that statement because I have been, seen and know.
A final question for you Polar Warrior.
Out of all the things I've shared so far what do you believe to be incorrect?
What is wrong with what I've shared and what is right if anything?
Please further explain!
Sincerely,
Respectfully,
Always with Love!
Best Wishes!
Best Dreams!
Quick note: If anyone has a question for me personally please direct it to me and not Unity_99 since Unity_99 does not represent me even though Unity_99 is on the same page in many ways but for the record we are not the same people so you can expect a different reply. I thought I should add that since some are under the impression that Unity_99 and I are the same person. Thank you!
If you think of the universe as one infinite creator of which you are a part then you are the creator and the creator explores all things which includes the negative path. So while you dont do it personally when speaking from an indinvidual entities point of view, you are part of the all, and the all does explore it. But only when you make very little to no distinction between "me" and "we", but see other beings as otherselfes. Your other self does experience it personally, so a part of you does experience it persoanlly,
Hi Polar Warrior,
First of all where there is no first or all to Infinity I feel that the first stumbling block in our discussion is that you are under the impression/belief like the rest of the law of one subscribers that you are the ONE Creator or a piece of the ONE Creator experiencing and everyone else is a piece of the ONE Creator as well. So basically everyone is you and you are everyone even if that means infinite everyone.
From the infinite/eternal perspective where there is no time going into the future where there is no future you are 1 of the Creators like the rest of everyone among Infinite Others Creators.
If someone cannot comprehend that 1 + 1 equals 2 or that 1 Creator alone in Infinity cannot exist then they simply cannot be helped in further comprehending/understanding the true Infinite One-1 nature of Infinity.
If that is the case, the rest of everything about Infinity will be hard to understand/comprehend for that person when it comes to the fundamental basic concepts/understandings of Infinity.
Infinite Creators existing can be further understood and comprehended if one takes the time to further ponder, meditate , connect and think about it.
The fundamental basic understanding/concept of Infinity shows that if all things are merely fractions of a ONE Creator self/whole or a ONE Creator alone that ONE Creator cannot come back together or exist in Infinity as there must always be something beyond that ONE Creator or Infinity could not exist if there was only ONE Creator. Therefore ONE Creator alone has never existed in the way the Law of One explains it to be.
Eventually I will have better visualizations and a video on this but for now I will use the following to give you an idea of what is meant by the above if you are having a hard time interpreting/understanding it.
Though this short clip is demonstrating the big bang and most here probably agree that the big bang never happened but nevertheless we will use this clip as a demonstration only of an all ONE Creator once put back together and where it stands to the Infinite where there is always more than One-1 infinitely forever and ever never-ending and never forget the Beyond where there is always a Beyond. If there was only a One Creator alone Infinity could not be Infinity being limited to a whole One Creator or All making it finite with beginning and ending, start point and end point.
Focus on the first 2 seconds of this video:
Imagine that this ball of light is Infinite and only ONE Creator existing alone all put back together consisting of everyone being merely fractions of that ONE Creator. What is BEYOND that ONE Creator if it's alone after it's all put back together in it's ONE form?
Supposedly those who believe in Infinity believe it to be just that Infinity or Infinite and never-ending going on forever with a beyond always existing.
If there is only a ONE Creator alone that comes back together or at one period was only ONE Creator alone together existing then this limits Infinity to an ending by placing ALL things back together into ONE. This now means that there's nothing BEYOND that ONE Creator alone but only that ONE Creator limiting Infinity to an ending or whole placed together. Becoming finite with beginning and ending, start point and end point. So what is beyond that whole and all ONE Creator that is supposed to be an Infinite Creator once placed back together?
Infinity cannot exist with limitations and endings.
There is no ALL and there is no WHOLE when it comes to ONE thing coming back together within INFINITY.
INFINITY does not exist if there is a whole or all ONE Creator alone that once existed and comes back together existing again. INFINITY is Infinite never-ending and must always have a beyond where there is no all or whole.
When a person refers to a ONE connection between all things there is truth as all things have a connection but there are Infinite ONE-1 and Infinite ONE-1 Creators that go on Forever and Ever never-ending to Infinity & Beyond!
There is never a ONE Creator alone existing as that is an impossibility within INFINITY where there must always be Infinite and beyond or INFINITY could not be Infinity and would be limited/finite with beginning and ending, start point and end point.
Here is another food for thought video that may help some to think a little deeper where there is no deep.
You are not the murderers in the world and they are not you.
The murderers in the world were not given a mission to carry out acts of murder and they are not under anyone's order or control but they are doing it through their own freewill/agency choice.
I'm not referring to non-terrestrial entities but people on earth humans (according to one's understanding/definition of the word human) just like you are.
There are planets/existences/realms/channels/stations (Label/define/call them what you will, merely words for humans to better understand/comprehend something) that exist within duality existences where there is no evil among those experiencing as they are in more loving/utopia states of existence (though on a different level depending on what one's definition of utopia is) however duality remains in such existences where there still is a night and day with pain, emotions, sickness, mortality still remains with birth and death. Pain from injuries, emotions that come along with duality existences and so on but there is no evil performed, however freewill choice/agency remains and there is also a mutual understanding (as those experiencing such existences are on a higher level of awareness) that if one goes against their unity of Love in that existence they cannot remain and will be transferred or detained going against the Love nature of that existence. A mutual understanding that all understand and abide by and the souls/spirits of such existences are on a higher level of awareness/spirituality, a greater level of understanding clearly knowing that Evil is not Good and Hate is not Love, understanding that Love brings happiness/joy and Evil brings sadness/sorrow. If those experiencing such existence did not understand such things they would not be in such existences unless they previously chose Love and Goodness in which they did and continue to live in Love and Goodness out of their own freewill/agency choice that will always infinitely remain.
EVIL acts are not required and do not need to exist within duality existences and if one can bend/wrap their finite/temporal mind around it Infinite utopia existences within this infinite universe alone where there is no alone because beyond this infinite universe there are infinite other universes and other infinite existences/realms/channels/stations (Call them what you will) far beyond what a universe is from the finite/temporal perspective that could never be comprehended/understood unless experienced.
Ok I think your beginning to see. So hate has to exist for there to be the comparative opposite. Hence it is the evil which makes you seem good.
First of all where there is no first from the infinite/eternal perspective I updated the easily to be misunderstood/misinterpreted statement that was followed by the next sentences showing that it's the choices of opposition one to another that must be available and always be available/exist in duality existences due to freewill as freewill accompanies choices to choose one thing from the other.
Here it is again to make it easier to understand.
In duality existences both Love and Hate MUST exist as choices that can be made or it would not be duality.
If you were to read the next few sentences underneath the above statement putting it together it clears it up even more.
Here you go:
In duality, choices of opposition must exist and be available to one through freewill/choices/agency.
Doing good to others on one hand is a choice through helping, caring, sharing, giving, loving and so on.
Dong evil to others on the other hand is a choice such as abuse, rape, stealing, using, torchering, abusing and so on.
You cannot eliminate evil, so why dont you use it to learn?
What do you recommend or suggest?
Should one go out and see what it's like to pick up a hitchhiker take them to the woods and do some horrible acts on them just to experience what it's like?
Should one secretly rape and murder someone just for fun to have added experiences in this All is good, All is Love existence?
When one drives a car those with a license and knowledge to drive they usually already know the rules and regulations on what to do and how to drive. If a person does not hit the breaks in time when a car slows down in front of them they know that the consequences to their actions may cause a fender bender or possibly worse. If someone runs a red light they are also taking a risk at getting hit or causing an accident. If someone falls asleep on the wheel while driving chances are they will get into an accident (According to human understanding/definition of the word accident) depending on if that driver is alone when it happens or how it plays out. Clearly driving on the wrong side of the freeway is a much greater risk.
When a child learns how to walk for a first time they have a tendency to fall in the learning process but once they learn how to walk it's rare that they will ever fall again. There is no need for that child to fall over and over once they learn how to walk. When a person learns that sticking their hand in a fire or on a hot stove burns they usually learn their lesson and realize that sticking their hand in a fire or on a hot stove is not the best thing to do. When someone realizes what gravity does (According to the human understanding/definition of gravity) they realize that if they jump off something high like a building or rooftop they can fall and hurt themselves. In learning about gravity the very large majority of people on earth never jump off a high rise building to fall.
All decisions/choices/actions have a consequence to action so doing things to others have consequences.
Abusing, raping, torturing, killing others comes with a consequence.
Some who have committed such acts may have not yet received the consequences to their actions just yet in this temporal existence but it always will eventually come. Some perhaps are beyond having any conscience or guilt as they have done such acts for longer periods or perhaps they believe such evil acts to be only good acts and love doing the right things. Some have been doing things to others secretly in private and continue to get away with such things. Serial killers, Mafia or Gangsters that have killed enough people to the point where it perhaps doesn't affect them as much anymore without conscience or guilt comes to mind.
Are you suggesting the organized religions have the truth?
The majority of religions clearly understand Evil from Good and Love from Hate.
The majority of religions understand some of those fundamental basic truths that Evil is not Good and Love is not Hate.
If I was to take a guess at it according to the information available, the law of one way of thinking falls into the 0.01% category if that.
Murdering, raping, torturing, abusing is not GOOD but EVIL.
Do you have children, sisters, brothers or parents still alive?
Is it OK if someone came over and rapes, tortures and kills them?
Do you feel good about that?
Would you stand by and just accept it with open arms?
Is it OK if I kill my children and family?
Could you do that to your own family and is it OK?
Now your just giving your manilpulation away. Read my post to you on the other page, an answer to the questions would be better than this constant repitition of the same old tired points, I assume that you cannot answer or do not like the answers.
I've answered most of the questions that you've previously asked in the previous posts but perhaps you've missed the answers. I feel that you are either skimming through the posts or you are misunderstanding/misinterpreting them.
I also pick and choose who and what I reply to and that is my freewill. I genuinely believe you mean well Polar Warrior but I can see that you have really taken some of this to heart and you should because it has everything to do with where you go after this life.
Are you a loving person or do you consider yourself to be a loving person?
If so what is Love to you if you consider Hate to be Love or Evil and Good to be the same?
Are you loving someone by hurting, torturing and killing them?
Is Love doing Evil to others for you?
Are you Loving someone by raping and abusing them?
Is that Love for you?
It's the ACTIONS of people that have everything to do with what LOVE is and what EVIL is.
Evil acts are murdering, raping, torturing and hurting others and so on.
Do you believe that all of the murders, rapists and abusive people out there some of which are locked up behind bars in prisons were all called by the Designers/Creators and chosen to commit such acts upon humanity?
Polarity just is that polarity and exists.
Oppositions are just that oppositions and exist.
It's the CHOICES one makes and the ACTIONS one makes that count.
btw nobody is misinterpreting pos with neg as you keep saying.
I would hope not since those really are as clear as NIGHT and DAY and are the most basic fundamental understandings/concepts of duality in this existence.
If you want to believe that the positive side of a battery is negative or the positive side is the same as the negative both being only POSITIVE that is your freewill and choice.
Polarity is naturally part of the system of duality but polarity is not EVIL and DARK is not EVIL it's the actions of someone that is EVIL.
We know they are polar opposites, but like to embrace the creation as a whole,
So does the Infinite Family Of Light embrace the system having unconditional Love for all infinite one-1 souls but having Love for all infinite one-1 souls does not mean having Love for evil acts but Unconditional Love for those souls that are temporally lost and experiencing an evil lifestyle headed in the wrong direction. The Eternal Family of Light only wishes/hopes/desires the best for such souls and does their best to help/assist and guide/call them back to the Love side. If you do not understand some of this yet then you have clearly not read the previous posts carefully and if you have then you have simply misinterpreted them and not understood.
th it is limited perception and our own polarization which leads to the bias of "imperfection", in the scope of the all, all is perfect.
If you believe that all things in this duality existence are perfect then you are living in your own dream world.
You do not understand the picture of infinity Polar Warrior, one can barely even touch upon the basic fundamental understandings/concepts of Infinity due to limitations in vocabulary/explanations/visualizations of Infinity.
Nobody can see the whole infinite picture where there is no whole and especially being temporal finite/mortal with finite/limited understanding/comprehension.
TPTB are showing us what not to be, how not to live on a planet.
That is the very point Polarwarrior and it's nice to see you agree for once that committing murder, rape and evil acts are as you put it how not to be or how not to live.
With this understanding that there is a how not to be and how not to live way in other words a right way from a wrong way we do come to agreement that living in the Right way or Love way is the way one should live their life if they plan on going to a higher state of existence that is full of Love and Good things where there is no higher but infinite/eternal. Of course everyone in duality experiences pain, suffering, sorrow, misery, sickness, and all those hardships/tribulations/trials in life that are oppositions to happiness, joy and so on but that does not mean one must go out and rape, torture or murder people to get the point of what it would feel like and learn their lesson of how such acts would affect another. The lessons are learned by everyone born into duality through experiences such as birth, pain, illness, suffering, weakness and death. There's no need for one to commit evil acts but as we can see many out there do because of freewill choice/agency that cannot be taken away from the finite/mortal time being and must exist in duality existences having choices of opposition one to another.
I already said this in the other thread.
I've read other threads you've posted on. Continuing with this thread just might help bring some infinite understandings to light your way which is a freeway and infinite one-1 way because you are doing it your way and if you think you have learned the tiniest particle about infinity where there is no tiny from simple OBE/Dream-state experiences think again oh yes way where there are infinite one-1 ways.
Furthermore duality would only exist in choice and not action if nobody chose negative action.
Very good, that is exactly the point and you have stated it beautifully that duality still remains even when nobody chooses negative actions but the actions and freewill choices of others to perform such negative actions still remain. As previously stated there are infinite worlds/realms/channels/existences (Call them what you will) within duality that would be considered utopia existences where only the choices to do evil remain but there is no evil performed if one can bend/wrap their mind around it.
There are planets/existences/realms/channels/stations (Label/define/call them what you will, merely words for humans to better understand/comprehend something) that exist within duality existences where there is no evil among those experiencing as they are in more loving/utopia states of existence (though on a different level depending on what one's definition of utopia is) however duality remains in such existences where there still is a night and day with pain, emotions, sickness, mortality still remains with birth and death. Pain from injuries, emotions that come along with duality existences and so on but there is no evil performed, however freewill choice/agency remains and there is also a mutual understanding (as those experiencing such existences are on a higher level of awareness) that if one goes against their unity of Love in that existence they cannot remain and will be transferred or detained going against the Love nature of that existence. A mutual understanding that all understand and abide by and the souls/spirits of such existences are on a higher level of awareness/spirituality, a greater level of understanding clearly knowing that Evil is not Good and Hate is not Love, understanding that Love brings happiness/joy and Evil brings sadness/sorrow. If those experiencing such existence did not understand such things they would not be in such existences unless they previously chose Love and Goodness in which they did and continue to live in Love and Goodness out of their own freewill/agency choice that will always infinitely remain.
EVIL acts are not required and do not need to exist within duality existences and if one can bend/wrap their finite/temporal mind around it Infinite utopia existences within this infinite universe alone where there is no alone because beyond this infinite universe there are infinite other universes and other infinite existences/realms/channels/stations (Call them what you will) far beyond what a universe is from the finite/temporal perspective that could never be comprehended/understood unless experienced.
Do you think the only way for negatives to pass the school and get back home to oneness is to jump over to your positive side????
The only way anyone on this planet experiencing will make it to Love existences is through their own freewill choices/actions and they will not make it to Love existences through murdering, raping, torturing, abusing and so on.
This does not mean they will never make it to such existences as there are infinite amounts of time where time does not exist only infinite perceptions of time according to the finite, temporal time being experiencing. This only means within earth's temporal existence if one chooses the path of murdering, raping, torturing, abusing and so on they are on that path to such existences where they will reap what they sow according to their own freewill choices/actions based on how they lived their life on earth's reality/existence/school/test (Call it what you will) but the Infinite/Eternal Family Of Light is always there with open arms and unconditional Love and understanding and will always be there to further assist those experiencing sadness, sorrow and painful existences. We love them and they are part of the Infinite/Eternal Family of Light and always will be and eventually everyone makes it to the beyond utopia existences and beyond outside of time where Dreams DO come true and there's only a perfect shared unity and love, there is no pain, there is no sorrow and there is no death, there is no duality and all things are in a perfect state of existence with happiness, love, joy, bliss and beyond all human understanding/indescribable/incomprehensible eternal/magical and beyond.
They must become more evil, ie. they must polarize further to the negative in order to pass their requirments for the negative path home.
Let's definite home now shall we?
Are you referring to a place where they will suffer and experience pain, torcher and misery?
Those who commit evil acts against others and murder, rape, torture and so on are headed to negative existences.
Is that what you call home?
Those who have committed such evil acts do not go to the same places as those who did not commit such evil acts but instead lived their life to the best of their ability with every effort to live in Love making the good decisions with caring, sharing, giving and helping others and so on.
Do you choose the other state of existence with misery, pain, torture where those who commit such evil acts go?
Or do you want to make it to existences where there is a unity of love with higher awareness and a mutual understanding shared among everyone experiencing such existences where there is no evil acts, murders, rapes, wars and bloodshed to be found?
All souls have freewill experiencing and they are making their own choices on how to live their lives, there are no excuses and everyone is ultimately deciding for themselves where they head to after this temporal life/experience/existence based on their own freewill choices/actions. They are choosing where they go in the after life state of existence based on how they lived their lives and they will reap what they sow according to the eternal law of consequence to actions based on their freewill/agency choices/decisions and actions on earths temporal experience/existence/school (Call it what you will.)
It is not nescassary for you to understand what the negatives need to do to advance spiritually.
Respectfully according to the law of one belief what does it matter what anyone does if All Is Good and All Is Love? What does it matter what anyone does? Everyone could shoot each other or shoot themselves or just do anything they want because according to such a belief where there is no right from wrong and All Is Good and All Is Love everyone goes home to a perfect Love state of existence regardless of their actions or what they do is this correct?
Or is there even such a thing as correct and incorrect?
According to such a belief everything is correct already or All is Good and All is Love so why should one even ask the question if something is correct or incorrect, right or wrong if All is Perfect, All is Good and All is Love?
This could have lead you to naively think they must choose your path of love and light becuase its the one you know will get you out of the school.
WISELY not Naively and those who choose to live their lives based on Love and helping others and doing good things are headed in the Love/Goodness and Right direction and will make it to the Love and Good places not the other one's where souls will reap what they sow according to their actions based on how they lived their lives and how they treated others.
“What you do unto others you have only done unto yourself.”
There is truth found in the above statement where there is no above coming from the infinite/eternal perspective.
Do not misinterpret what is meant by the above where there is no above in thinking that the others are you and you are the others but this is to say that those same pains, suffering, inflictions and torturous brutal horrible acts one caused others in whatever evil acts they did will come back upon them and they will experience what they went through in one form or another equal to what they went through as a just consequence to their actions. One truly gets what they sow according to the eternal law of consequence to action based on freewill and individuality which is the greatest infinite gift that all One-1 eternal souls will always have where there is no all but infinite One-1 that can never be taken away to Infinity and Beyond!
They actually need to become more evil in order to graduate from duality.
Graduate into what state of existence is the question?
Are you referring to graduating into negative hellish states of existence that one might consider to be paradise/utopia existences for them because of their interpretation/belief they have that evil is good and
torture is fun with murder, rape and hellish types of experiences that are only really FOR THEM heavenly/paradise/utopia states of existences to those who believe in such a thing, is this what you consider to be home and graduation?
Are you afraid of the destruction of your soul or higher self or soul group whatever you want to call it? If this were possible, if you were faced with this prospect would you feel fear?
Anyone with knowledge in their possession, comprehension and understanding of the Infinite one-1 truth already knows that nothing can infinitely be destroyed as one only experiences a temporal death according to the temporal vessel/body/vehicle and FEAR is not a factor for those that already know/understand that NOTHING can change this as they have always existed and will always exist in one form/body or another.
Terminations of the soul cannot exist but due to the infinite/eternal freewill of the infinite one-1 there are infinite requests transformations of one body/consciousness to another which is a possibility but nothing seizes to exist forever. To answer your question pretending that what if yes something could terminate my eternal soul and I was faced into such a situation I would smile with no fear and if I had to sacrifice my eternal existence/soul for another or others I would happily do so with a smile because I already know deep down within that even if someone was to convince me that this is it and it's all over and they are going to terminate my spirit/soul forever that from my understanding of the Infinite One-1 I would already know that I would live on and never infinitely seize to exist in one form/body or another. Nobody can take away that infinite one-1 freewill and we choose to live forever and therefore we are and have always.
The fundamental basic understandings/concepts of Infinity and the Beyond is not my own knowledge to claim or keep but the Infinite One-1 knowledge that has always existed and will always exist and yes I can make that statement because I have been, seen and know.
A final question for you Polar Warrior.
Out of all the things I've shared so far what do you believe to be incorrect?
What is wrong with what I've shared and what is right if anything?
Please further explain!
Sincerely,
Respectfully,
Always with Love!
Best Wishes!
Best Dreams!
I am going to apologize. Not for what I said but how I've said it. I should have stuck to my guns and just left the thread. But I am rebellious in
nature to anything that is not the truth. It's part of my genetic coding.
I love you both and you know it. There currently are entities attached to both of you. I have seen them. Your knowledge of this will lead to the protection you require. True to what I said though, keep going and the whole truth will be shined upon.
Love, Gratitude, and Blessings.
I love you both and you know it. There currently are entities attached to both of you. I have seen them. Your knowledge of this will lead to the protection you require. True to what I said though, keep going and the whole truth will be shined upon.
Love, Gratitude, and Blessings.
reply to post by Universal Light
Hi Universal Light,
So there is a truth?
So there is a right and wrong way then?
Is that correct?
What about the All is Perfect, All Is Love and All is One?
By you suggesting that what I've written to be not true aren't you going against what you believe in?
According to the law of one aren't all things only LOVE and RIGHT and there is no right or wrong and whatever happens is OK and everyone makes it back to the Family is that not correct?
We have love for you as well Mike and that is why we are here sharing these very important messages and I can testify that I have seen where souls go upon leaving the flesh and I care about you and everyone else and don't want to see anyone have to suffer and go to such negative places believing that the evil acts they are committing were only good and the love way when they were deceived all along and it was the other path.
Best Wishes,
Best Dreams!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by ET_MAN]
Hi Universal Light,
But I am rebellious in nature to anything that is not the truth. It's part of my genetic coding.
So there is a truth?
So there is a right and wrong way then?
Is that correct?
What about the All is Perfect, All Is Love and All is One?
By you suggesting that what I've written to be not true aren't you going against what you believe in?
According to the law of one aren't all things only LOVE and RIGHT and there is no right or wrong and whatever happens is OK and everyone makes it back to the Family is that not correct?
We have love for you as well Mike and that is why we are here sharing these very important messages and I can testify that I have seen where souls go upon leaving the flesh and I care about you and everyone else and don't want to see anyone have to suffer and go to such negative places believing that the evil acts they are committing were only good and the love way when they were deceived all along and it was the other path.
Best Wishes,
Best Dreams!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by ET_MAN]
reply to post by ET_MAN
Right and wrong. Here's a sample of what wrong wreaks. This is based on discarnate accounts of an illusory world called 'Winterland' (as opposed to 'Summerland'), from a book 'Living On' by Paul Beard. In this world, the setting a man or woman finds him/herself in reflects the reality of their internal state :
'To enter these areas fills rescuers with a deep sense of distress ; these helpers, sensitive men and women, can themselves become affected and drawn into some of the negative emotions they seek to lift from others, and if they remain too long in this area, can be temporarily overcome by them. For the price to be paid in order to reach these minds is to lower their own consciousness and concepts to a level acceptable to and capable of being understood by those they hope to rescue. EVIL IS POWERFUL AT ITS OWN LEVEL and clearly a rescuer needs sterner qualities than those of a self-congratulatory do-gooder...'
And
'The Shadowland is a very real place indeed ; a gloomy murk covers it to which one has to become accustomed ; squalid dwellings inhabited by unhappy tormented beings who jeer and mock and pursue their warped existences, poor souls living in hatred and rebellion, sometimes in apathy and with a fierce denial that there is any other state of existence.'
As someone said 'Later never exists'.
So, whoever you are, get yourself straight now.
note : there is nothing personal in this post, apart from to say what evil reaps.
mclinking
Right and wrong. Here's a sample of what wrong wreaks. This is based on discarnate accounts of an illusory world called 'Winterland' (as opposed to 'Summerland'), from a book 'Living On' by Paul Beard. In this world, the setting a man or woman finds him/herself in reflects the reality of their internal state :
'To enter these areas fills rescuers with a deep sense of distress ; these helpers, sensitive men and women, can themselves become affected and drawn into some of the negative emotions they seek to lift from others, and if they remain too long in this area, can be temporarily overcome by them. For the price to be paid in order to reach these minds is to lower their own consciousness and concepts to a level acceptable to and capable of being understood by those they hope to rescue. EVIL IS POWERFUL AT ITS OWN LEVEL and clearly a rescuer needs sterner qualities than those of a self-congratulatory do-gooder...'
And
'The Shadowland is a very real place indeed ; a gloomy murk covers it to which one has to become accustomed ; squalid dwellings inhabited by unhappy tormented beings who jeer and mock and pursue their warped existences, poor souls living in hatred and rebellion, sometimes in apathy and with a fierce denial that there is any other state of existence.'
As someone said 'Later never exists'.
So, whoever you are, get yourself straight now.
note : there is nothing personal in this post, apart from to say what evil reaps.
mclinking
reply to post by Universal Light
You post doesnt make sense to me. I have been responding to your posts. If you're referring to your first post, I believe I discovered it after posts were already made, is this what you mean? I think that was in the morning, so I'm pacific timeline.
Is there a specific question that I don't understand that was important to you, because in what I'm writing from my heart about the nature of Infinity and the true individual Infinite Rays we are, I'm pretty sure I answered what I mean in this thread, concerning this thread. Obviously those doing evil in this world, organized crime that the bloodlines are committing against humanity, and luring so many to work as their minions/black ops, my brothers and sisters, is occurring from a fundamental error in their thinking process, based on ego and long history of esetoric priviliged information that is distorted and clouded.
I am sharing a clear vision of Beyond and the reason we're all here, and nudging them to begin the journey, for some a hard one, that can only be approached somewhat in this lifetime, as for some they have numbed themselves out with too many unthinkable actions, while still "in time".
I sense light in people and there are so many I recongize, obviously from my long journey and perhaps from the Beyond. Even amongst the bloodlines, there are many.
We love each other and come down to this lower density, negative realm to help our family trapped here and to assist the world, many giving into the negativity and becoming endangered themselves, and we have others coming in to wake us up. Its always lending a helping hand.
So this thread isn't going to be stopped, for its an expression of Love & LIght, and sharing what I know.
I also have recognized your Light from the other side, as if a close friend there. From your very first posts.
First of all, you used my nickname, not done on forums, so I do want you to retract that.
Second of all, there was a comment made about ego, and in a sense continuing to disagree is ego, if we both understand the points the other has, and have expressed them it should not be continual disagreement. When I'm sharing my inner truths and nudged to do so, I don't expect everyone to understand. But when other points are brought up that are not correct to what I understand, this is an opportunity to explore different ideas and address those points.
After all that is the nature of the thread, and its done as gently as I can, in Love. In other words, I'm not going to react to anyone. I'm a little shocked at your reaction.
Entity? In other words, for someone to wake up and remember even more of who they are, and shine a Light & Love message means they're possessed?
OK, this is a little alarming to read, if you really believe this. I work very hard at renouncing and canceling stray thoughts, not reacting poorly in stressful moments, shutting out the negative et experiences I've had, and really spent the last half a year, rarely skywatching and meditating and turning within to my Higher Self. I send everything Light & Love, but renounce negative and evil programs/behavior and they must leave immediately. In other words, this is not something I would not be aware of I think, for I am aware of jaki, (negative energy in words) and negative things alot.
So thank you for worrying. Its very much appreciated.
?????Are you implying something that is a complete lie????? You really don't know me at all. I wouldnt accept membership in a mystery school if they offered me a million dollars and I was homeless. Understand?
Again ????? Are you so upset with this thread talking and sharing personal experiences and knowledge about the Beyond, why we're here, the Love, our love for each other which is eternal and wishing everyone to move forward and progress, that you are threatening something?
I'm very curious about what you want to expose. Please do so!
The chess game was a vision yesterday, and I have to say right now, this is a distorted viewpoint. I'm sure this is the one that is distorting the more idealistic bloodlines, those like Hidden Hand for example, who are seekers and yet have a distorted viewpoint, done deliberately throughout the ages, by their "Handlers". There are not two polarities. The test isn't about chosing polarities. That is a esetoric idea, kabbala, as my one friend said he studied that in depth and believes such things himself.
The test is about love, it really is. Much Love & Light!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
You post doesnt make sense to me. I have been responding to your posts. If you're referring to your first post, I believe I discovered it after posts were already made, is this what you mean? I think that was in the morning, so I'm pacific timeline.
Is there a specific question that I don't understand that was important to you, because in what I'm writing from my heart about the nature of Infinity and the true individual Infinite Rays we are, I'm pretty sure I answered what I mean in this thread, concerning this thread. Obviously those doing evil in this world, organized crime that the bloodlines are committing against humanity, and luring so many to work as their minions/black ops, my brothers and sisters, is occurring from a fundamental error in their thinking process, based on ego and long history of esetoric priviliged information that is distorted and clouded.
I am sharing a clear vision of Beyond and the reason we're all here, and nudging them to begin the journey, for some a hard one, that can only be approached somewhat in this lifetime, as for some they have numbed themselves out with too many unthinkable actions, while still "in time".
I sense light in people and there are so many I recongize, obviously from my long journey and perhaps from the Beyond. Even amongst the bloodlines, there are many.
We love each other and come down to this lower density, negative realm to help our family trapped here and to assist the world, many giving into the negativity and becoming endangered themselves, and we have others coming in to wake us up. Its always lending a helping hand.
So this thread isn't going to be stopped, for its an expression of Love & LIght, and sharing what I know.
I also have recognized your Light from the other side, as if a close friend there. From your very first posts.
First of all, you used my nickname, not done on forums, so I do want you to retract that.
Second of all, there was a comment made about ego, and in a sense continuing to disagree is ego, if we both understand the points the other has, and have expressed them it should not be continual disagreement. When I'm sharing my inner truths and nudged to do so, I don't expect everyone to understand. But when other points are brought up that are not correct to what I understand, this is an opportunity to explore different ideas and address those points.
After all that is the nature of the thread, and its done as gently as I can, in Love. In other words, I'm not going to react to anyone. I'm a little shocked at your reaction.
whether you know what I'm talking about or not, the entity playing host upon you is not your fault. It will leave though you...
Entity? In other words, for someone to wake up and remember even more of who they are, and shine a Light & Love message means they're possessed?
OK, this is a little alarming to read, if you really believe this. I work very hard at renouncing and canceling stray thoughts, not reacting poorly in stressful moments, shutting out the negative et experiences I've had, and really spent the last half a year, rarely skywatching and meditating and turning within to my Higher Self. I send everything Light & Love, but renounce negative and evil programs/behavior and they must leave immediately. In other words, this is not something I would not be aware of I think, for I am aware of jaki, (negative energy in words) and negative things alot.
So thank you for worrying. Its very much appreciated.
You want the black ops/PTB to wake up? Start with yourself Sister.
?????Are you implying something that is a complete lie????? You really don't know me at all. I wouldnt accept membership in a mystery school if they offered me a million dollars and I was homeless. Understand?
So two choices:
1. Both you and Chris get exposed (and considering neither of you could come close otherwise I will go full force).
2. Admit what you did. Renounce the attached entity and begin from square one. Chris you are equal part of this.
Again ????? Are you so upset with this thread talking and sharing personal experiences and knowledge about the Beyond, why we're here, the Love, our love for each other which is eternal and wishing everyone to move forward and progress, that you are threatening something?
I'm very curious about what you want to expose. Please do so!
The chess game was a vision yesterday, and I have to say right now, this is a distorted viewpoint. I'm sure this is the one that is distorting the more idealistic bloodlines, those like Hidden Hand for example, who are seekers and yet have a distorted viewpoint, done deliberately throughout the ages, by their "Handlers". There are not two polarities. The test isn't about chosing polarities. That is a esetoric idea, kabbala, as my one friend said he studied that in depth and believes such things himself.
The test is about love, it really is. Much Love & Light!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
Originally posted by Universal Light
I am going to apologize. Not for what I said but how I've said it. I should have stuck to my guns and just left the thread. But I am rebellious in nature to anything that is not the truth. It's part of my genetic coding.
I love you both and you know it. There currently are entities attached to both of you. I have seen them. Your knowledge of this will lead to the protection you require. True to what I said though, keep going and the whole truth will be shined upon.
Love, Gratitude, and Blessings.
I love you too, very much! Its not by accident that the very fundamental differences surfaced on this thread as its addressed to the bloodlines, and concerns some of the distortions they have, that were very evident in Hidden Hands message as well as my friend who studied the Kabbalah, so bringing these up is all part and parcel of the topic of the thread.
But it should not be personal, I have nothing but respect and love for your presence and recognize your light!
There is nothing negative distorting me, however, truly have a wonderful Family who watches over and am waking up, my memories, and for the first time all my lifelong experiences including many years ago the anger I would have at this terrible world and the stresses, I always quit. That was it, I'm out of here. I do not agree with dualities, with pain or suffering, I'm not staying, I don't have to witness this any longer, and was ready to hand my very long report. I quit over and over. I had no computer, no memory of my experiences just the odd thing that didn't make sense, but didn't question it. I jsut knew. I also used these words all the time, "I refuse to pass your tests. I don't agree with your right to test people when they're donw, stressed out or having a rough day. Of course I would fail it, what on earth are you guys thinking! I quit!"
Now that I am awake I am absolutely surprised at the level of soul knowledge I always had all my life, and didn't know how I knew these things, but I used these terms naturally all the time. And I was quite angry in those years at the horror of this world and lit candle after candle unable to sleep while hearing of one tragedy after the other, vividly imaging being in all those situations and telling them how much I loved them. Each tragedy stood for thousands of unknown ones that were similar. Rwanda was out of this world, literally, I was beside myself, each day a living hell of picturing what was happening wondering if others would throw a revolution with me but they just told me I was crazy to feel like I do.
I encourage everyone to begin to go within their heart and explore all these issues, thoughts, questions, inside and ask Who you are? Why you're here? For help to pass all the daily tests, to grow in love and to shine your light. Its a path worth taking.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
Originally posted by polarwarrior
They simply stay in this plane of existance until they do. There is no time limit, as long as it takes them. Theoretically one could spend an eternity of time as we feel it in our illusion as a linear progression, its actually sort of going round in circles, cycles of time (well in actual fact its not going anywhere at all cuz all things happen at once , but this is hard to see in our illusion). You get the chance to leave at the end of each cycle, but there are most likely infinity cycles so no matter how slow you go you'll get there in the end. If an entity is having much trouble there are ways higher beings can step in and help without violating their free will.
Interesting, thank you.
Is neutrality/balance really that frowned upon?
- Phoenix
reply to post by polarwarrior
Its never been about polarization its about Love. Thats a mytery school distortion. There is no twin negative path that leads to the Beyond, and passes the test, unless ones goal is to be tortured in the same manner one has done to others, and by their own choice, because they will be so ashamed once they realize they will be in torment, and then, after many years, hundreds maybe of torture and suffering, I don't even want to think about it, its something I feel so strongly about, for even the knowing and feeling the shame they will feel breaks my heart, and then they are under these dark entities/ets mafia rule pryamid system, and stuck incarnating in this DVD player for a long time till they finally realize that it hurts to hurt someone, if you really call that a road.
It not a road worth taking, its a tragedy.
By the way, I do believe strongly in forgiveness. Its the way out of this, forgiving others and self always. Even if someone has a mountain of sorrow in them for things they wish they could redo, please understand, the gifts we give will be returned. Its a process that you need to turn within and ask for help shedding layers, it could be fast, the layers could come all at once off, its so important to begin, and to hope and have the courage to tackle this scarey place to be. Remember giving gifts to others, to the world, to nature, all contributes greatly to the doors opening inside, and Grace covering you.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
Its never been about polarization its about Love. Thats a mytery school distortion. There is no twin negative path that leads to the Beyond, and passes the test, unless ones goal is to be tortured in the same manner one has done to others, and by their own choice, because they will be so ashamed once they realize they will be in torment, and then, after many years, hundreds maybe of torture and suffering, I don't even want to think about it, its something I feel so strongly about, for even the knowing and feeling the shame they will feel breaks my heart, and then they are under these dark entities/ets mafia rule pryamid system, and stuck incarnating in this DVD player for a long time till they finally realize that it hurts to hurt someone, if you really call that a road.
It not a road worth taking, its a tragedy.
By the way, I do believe strongly in forgiveness. Its the way out of this, forgiving others and self always. Even if someone has a mountain of sorrow in them for things they wish they could redo, please understand, the gifts we give will be returned. Its a process that you need to turn within and ask for help shedding layers, it could be fast, the layers could come all at once off, its so important to begin, and to hope and have the courage to tackle this scarey place to be. Remember giving gifts to others, to the world, to nature, all contributes greatly to the doors opening inside, and Grace covering you.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
reply to post by phoenix_zephyr
I have never said once this is a test on polarization. Its not about picking two equal differing paths. Go within and connect to your Higher Self for a period of time in meditation and take that question. Truth is truth. When ET_MAN writes, for example, do you sense Beyond writing through him? Its in his words. Its up to him to share why, but that connection you can find yourself as well, for we're all cosmic, with a long history, and future self versions are already in the Beyond, and we all know each other there, some are much closer family and loves. When we wake up, and start to remember and even have recognition of people you realize you came to get your loved ones out, that its the response of all our Higher Selves on the other side, to lend a helping hand, for they also visit us while we're in prison after consequence to actions, and love us all the time. Not only my Higher Self, but also the bloodlines Higher Selves, the so called ones on negative path's, there Higher Selves too. Everyone lends a helping hand out of real love and concern for the very real pain and suffering we are enduring in this temporal dream.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
I have never said once this is a test on polarization. Its not about picking two equal differing paths. Go within and connect to your Higher Self for a period of time in meditation and take that question. Truth is truth. When ET_MAN writes, for example, do you sense Beyond writing through him? Its in his words. Its up to him to share why, but that connection you can find yourself as well, for we're all cosmic, with a long history, and future self versions are already in the Beyond, and we all know each other there, some are much closer family and loves. When we wake up, and start to remember and even have recognition of people you realize you came to get your loved ones out, that its the response of all our Higher Selves on the other side, to lend a helping hand, for they also visit us while we're in prison after consequence to actions, and love us all the time. Not only my Higher Self, but also the bloodlines Higher Selves, the so called ones on negative path's, there Higher Selves too. Everyone lends a helping hand out of real love and concern for the very real pain and suffering we are enduring in this temporal dream.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
Originally posted by mclinking
reply to post by ET_MAN
Right and wrong. Here's a sample of what wrong wreaks. This is based on discarnate accounts of an illusory world called 'Winterland' (as opposed to 'Summerland'), from a book 'Living On' by Paul Beard. In this world, the setting a man or woman finds him/herself in reflects the reality of their internal state :
'To enter these areas fills rescuers with a deep sense of distress ; these helpers, sensitive men and women, can themselves become affected and drawn into some of the negative emotions they seek to lift from others, and if they remain too long in this area, can be temporarily overcome by them. For the price to be paid in order to reach these minds is to lower their own consciousness and concepts to a level acceptable to and capable of being understood by those they hope to rescue. EVIL IS POWERFUL AT ITS OWN LEVEL and clearly a rescuer needs sterner qualities than those of a self-congratulatory do-gooder...'
And
'The Shadowland is a very real place indeed ; a gloomy murk covers it to which one has to become accustomed ; squalid dwellings inhabited by unhappy tormented beings who jeer and mock and pursue their warped existences, poor souls living in hatred and rebellion, sometimes in apathy and with a fierce denial that there is any other state of existence.'
As someone said 'Later never exists'.
So, whoever you are, get yourself straight now.
note : there is nothing personal in this post, apart from to say what evil reaps.
mclinking
Hi Mclinking,
Thank you for sharing that and it reminds me of a few parts of the movie What Dreams May Come and there are truths to be found in various ways to certain levels/degrees.
Scene #1 is where Robin Williams finds out his wife just committed suicide and that those who take their own life suffer consequences for taking their life but this also depends on the circumstance/situation as many suicides are done for different reasons and are always based on that specific situation/circumstance/reason of why a person took their own life.
Scene #1
Scene #2
I will take a direct quote now from Mclinking's post as this is very similar to What Dreams May Come and if Robin Williams (according to the movie of course) stays too long in that negative environment trying to bring back his wife from the state of existence she's in after committing suicide it will overcome him and he will also be stuck in that existence until he finds a way out.
Quote: " This is based on discarnate accounts of an illusory world called 'Winterland' (as opposed to 'Summerland'), from a book 'Living On' by Paul Beard. In this world, the setting a man or woman finds him/herself in reflects the reality of their internal state :
'To enter these areas fills rescuers with a deep sense of distress ; these helpers, sensitive men and women, can themselves become affected and drawn into some of the negative emotions they seek to lift from others, and if they remain too long in this area, can be temporarily overcome by them. For the price to be paid in order to reach these minds is to lower their own consciousness and concepts to a level acceptable to and capable of being understood by those they hope to rescue. EVIL IS POWERFUL AT ITS OWN LEVEL and clearly a rescuer needs sterner qualities than those of a self-congratulatory do-gooder..."
Best Wishes,
Best Dreams,
ALWAYS!
Scene #3
This Scene of What Dreams May Come is similar in various ways to certain levels/degrees to the outside of this duality universe in the BEYOND and someday everyone-1 can make it there through eternal progression where DREAMS do come TRUE and there is only ONE ETERNAL DAY!
There is no death,
There is no pain,
There is no sorrow,
Only Happiness, Joy and beyond all comprehension FUN (that's right FUN is always FUN) and such existences are indescribable/incomprehensible.
Imagine anything that one-1 can possibly create in one-1's imagination/mind can exist and one-1 can create that existence and experience it. Even the finite/temporal mind can only come up with so many things to create/imagine/dream/design. One-1 can only imagine what one-1 can dream/create/design when one-1 receives more awareness and remembers who and what they truly are far beyond a simple 70-80 years of human perception/awareness/memory on earth.
Think Thousands, Millions, Billions, Trillions and Zillions of years.
Think INFINITY & BEYOND!
DREAM A DREAM!
Scene #3
BEST DREAMS!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by ET_MAN]
Originally posted by Unity_99
I have never said once this is a test on polarization.
My apologises, that wasn't aimed at you
I just seem to see a lot of posts lately of: pick and choose, black and white, good and bad, right and wrong. One or the other, pick door number one or door number 2, choose heads or tails.
But what if there was a third path, a third door, the edge of a coin?
disclaimer: I don't claim to have been imparted with any great knowledge, just asking out of curiousity
When ET_MAN writes, for example, do you sense Beyond writing through him?
No, not really. I get a sense of amusement for some reason
- Phoenix
Like little children in the sand you all are, fighting over a shovel to dig a hole and build a castle. For instead of working together you fight
taking chunks out of one another and building a ruble pile of dirt. Thus both side will not win this and there for is no point to argue like a
ignorant child. Yet you say you are all warriors and messengers of light but act like blind kittens not knowing your ways around.
Stop brothers and sister to see the point of understanding there must be a balance. Love one another for what we truly poses is the knowledge of the truth, that many do not have so work together to share and teach.
Love and Light.
Stop brothers and sister to see the point of understanding there must be a balance. Love one another for what we truly poses is the knowledge of the truth, that many do not have so work together to share and teach.
Love and Light.
Seriously though, I don't see it as them fighting, more trying to see the others viewpoint. No-one can ever agree on everything, we all have our differences.
- Phoenix
[edit on 4-5-2010 by phoenix_zephyr]
reply to post by ShadowNinja
Thank you for shining light and speaking words of peace and love. But there is a misconception going on, and due to the negative words where as, my posting to explain why I feel this way, is labeled forcing, or repeating, in other words there is a real effort to stop truth going on here.
The reason for this thread is to address the very issues that popped up, for Hidden Hand's post, if it is to be believed he was a real bloodline, PTB, has touched on some of the same distortions mentioned in this thread.
They're my family. We're all here like Robin william's character in What Dreams May Come, risking lowering our vibrations coming here into this DVD to get our family out and loved ones, and some of us can get lost for a time ourselves. Many are here in that capacity, and its about shining Light & Love.
The thread is sharing what the real purpose for 3D earth is, and how we progress, and send love and compassion to those who are being misled. Its a really hard test. Even without the current state of this world, that is being mismanaged by entities/ets, operating through the bloodlines, it was a hard test for the indigenous people who had no such leaders or banking system set up, for over 10,000 years. They displayed great wisdom, respect and reverence for the natural world, and advanced understanding in their writings, poetry and spiritual legacy, while at the same time all the same vices, corruption, abuses of power, they suffered abuse. It still was a long road home for some, but nothing like this out of control negativity and the incredible suffering of billions such as is occurring here and now. The pain and hurt of so many needlessly suffering in the hands of such ruthless dictators is unbearable to the Family of Light, and everyone in this Universe is that Family.
And the key issues some have instantly surfaced. It was not an accident or coincidence for nothing is truly. In other words it went to the heart of matters.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
Thank you for shining light and speaking words of peace and love. But there is a misconception going on, and due to the negative words where as, my posting to explain why I feel this way, is labeled forcing, or repeating, in other words there is a real effort to stop truth going on here.
The reason for this thread is to address the very issues that popped up, for Hidden Hand's post, if it is to be believed he was a real bloodline, PTB, has touched on some of the same distortions mentioned in this thread.
They're my family. We're all here like Robin william's character in What Dreams May Come, risking lowering our vibrations coming here into this DVD to get our family out and loved ones, and some of us can get lost for a time ourselves. Many are here in that capacity, and its about shining Light & Love.
The thread is sharing what the real purpose for 3D earth is, and how we progress, and send love and compassion to those who are being misled. Its a really hard test. Even without the current state of this world, that is being mismanaged by entities/ets, operating through the bloodlines, it was a hard test for the indigenous people who had no such leaders or banking system set up, for over 10,000 years. They displayed great wisdom, respect and reverence for the natural world, and advanced understanding in their writings, poetry and spiritual legacy, while at the same time all the same vices, corruption, abuses of power, they suffered abuse. It still was a long road home for some, but nothing like this out of control negativity and the incredible suffering of billions such as is occurring here and now. The pain and hurt of so many needlessly suffering in the hands of such ruthless dictators is unbearable to the Family of Light, and everyone in this Universe is that Family.
And the key issues some have instantly surfaced. It was not an accident or coincidence for nothing is truly. In other words it went to the heart of matters.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
reply to post by phoenix_zephyr
Thank you, yes, in fact its as if the issues that make different understandings came up quickly, so it was natural for everyone to address them in many ways, with many different layers coming up. If we can reach connection to our Higher Self, and raise our frequency, we're in good hands, truly, not every issue addressed on this thread will even be in most peoples minds at all, for in each day , there are many unique moments where we're tested, we come from many walks of life and spiritual beliefs. But most do know that Love wins the prize in the end.
Its the connection within that really makes a difference and the way opens up, with daily miracles, synchronicities, along with more difficulties and challenges too. I've finally reached the stage after 2 years of solid pushing within, where the search was everything, and relentless even,to peace, happiness, because that connection is there, and its making sense.
I only touched briefly on the metaphysics about Infinity before, and when I looked within, it just poured out, within in no time words I had read made perfect sense, I understood why we were the clip that holds all the scenes of our lives in, how we actually make it all real here in infinite unique rays of self, and how every clip was another us, all existing at the same time in no time. The joy exploded, in side, I was so happy at returning home, at experiences memories, contact, glimpses of eutopias beyond and knowing where I knew everyone from.
And how urgent it is, to reach those who can feel the nudges within, who have ears to hear, that they are sorely missed on the other side, but no matter what they're not going to walk alone, even if the consequences to their actions take them into hard places, their Family and their Future Self, loves them and will visit them, and watch over them always.
Thank you, yes, in fact its as if the issues that make different understandings came up quickly, so it was natural for everyone to address them in many ways, with many different layers coming up. If we can reach connection to our Higher Self, and raise our frequency, we're in good hands, truly, not every issue addressed on this thread will even be in most peoples minds at all, for in each day , there are many unique moments where we're tested, we come from many walks of life and spiritual beliefs. But most do know that Love wins the prize in the end.
Its the connection within that really makes a difference and the way opens up, with daily miracles, synchronicities, along with more difficulties and challenges too. I've finally reached the stage after 2 years of solid pushing within, where the search was everything, and relentless even,to peace, happiness, because that connection is there, and its making sense.
I only touched briefly on the metaphysics about Infinity before, and when I looked within, it just poured out, within in no time words I had read made perfect sense, I understood why we were the clip that holds all the scenes of our lives in, how we actually make it all real here in infinite unique rays of self, and how every clip was another us, all existing at the same time in no time. The joy exploded, in side, I was so happy at returning home, at experiences memories, contact, glimpses of eutopias beyond and knowing where I knew everyone from.
And how urgent it is, to reach those who can feel the nudges within, who have ears to hear, that they are sorely missed on the other side, but no matter what they're not going to walk alone, even if the consequences to their actions take them into hard places, their Family and their Future Self, loves them and will visit them, and watch over them always.
reply to post by ShadowNinja
Hi ShadowNinja Hows it going bladerunner?
Careful when you say ALL where there is no ALL and there is virtually nothing anyone can write or ever say to upset this ET_MAN.
I post with the utmost sincere intentions of simply sharing information and do not react to scuffles unless of course I feel that it will bring some good points out in the long run where there is no long but it's always in the most sincerest/best intentions and I do feel it important to bring to light some infinite one-1 light points.
And I did it my way, you did it your way and we all did it our way or the infinite one-1 light way with infinite way and yes way!
Best Wishes!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by ET_MAN]
Hi ShadowNinja Hows it going bladerunner?
Like little children in the sand you all are, fighting over a shovel to dig a hole and build a castle.
Careful when you say ALL where there is no ALL and there is virtually nothing anyone can write or ever say to upset this ET_MAN.
I post with the utmost sincere intentions of simply sharing information and do not react to scuffles unless of course I feel that it will bring some good points out in the long run where there is no long but it's always in the most sincerest/best intentions and I do feel it important to bring to light some infinite one-1 light points.
And I did it my way, you did it your way and we all did it our way or the infinite one-1 light way with infinite way and yes way!
Best Wishes!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by ET_MAN]
reply to post by phoenix_zephyr
Hi Phoenix_Zephyr,
Hey wait I can agree with the above statement where there is no above or there!
Best Wishes!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by ET_MAN]
Hi Phoenix_Zephyr,
Seriously though, I don't see it as them fighting, more trying to see the others viewpoint. No-one can ever agree on everything, we all have our differences.
- Phoenix
Hey wait I can agree with the above statement where there is no above or there!
Best Wishes!
[edit on 4-5-2010 by ET_MAN]
reply to post by Tingopoo
The issues discussed here are the ones very ones that have surfaced time and time again, and distort and hinder some on the path to home, and awareness, and partly its a net to make good/evil and truth/lies, its also akin to a layer of ideology that related to the cremation of care ceremony for those who are committing these terrible acts are doing so thinking they are agents of Love & Light and have a higher path and polarity that assists as well.
So, in a sense I'm glad these points surfaced, but that being said I actually care about the people participating on this thread so don't wish to keep going down the same path, as you're right it gets entrenched.
I agree there is a difference between caring for those here so much you'd risk getting lost in the dream for ages yourself, and undergo many hardships but there is a difference between loving all your beloved Family here and approving of heartless actions.
Thanks so much for your post.
Edit to add: I just loved that clip from that video listed above:
What Dreams May Come 'Hell Scene'
And this is why so many are here now, what its all about in this DVD 3d earth, even though "time" is an illusion in "no time" its an older dream really, an older DVD, buried deep on the shelf.
"And I forgive you.
For killing my children, and my sweet husband?
For being so wonderful, that a guy would chose hell over heaven just to hang around you!"
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
I understand the need for duality to exist in this school/dimension/matrix.........or whatever you want to call it and i have much love for those that reside in the dark, i just can not embrace/accept the evil, cold and calous acts they commit. Now, it is my understanding that the invitation to enter into the light is open to EVERYONE. Humans, aliens, Et's, you, me, them, ALL and i think that by making them aware of this is the RIGHT thing to do.
The issues discussed here are the ones very ones that have surfaced time and time again, and distort and hinder some on the path to home, and awareness, and partly its a net to make good/evil and truth/lies, its also akin to a layer of ideology that related to the cremation of care ceremony for those who are committing these terrible acts are doing so thinking they are agents of Love & Light and have a higher path and polarity that assists as well.
So, in a sense I'm glad these points surfaced, but that being said I actually care about the people participating on this thread so don't wish to keep going down the same path, as you're right it gets entrenched.
I agree there is a difference between caring for those here so much you'd risk getting lost in the dream for ages yourself, and undergo many hardships but there is a difference between loving all your beloved Family here and approving of heartless actions.
Thanks so much for your post.
Edit to add: I just loved that clip from that video listed above:
What Dreams May Come 'Hell Scene'
And this is why so many are here now, what its all about in this DVD 3d earth, even though "time" is an illusion in "no time" its an older dream really, an older DVD, buried deep on the shelf.
"And I forgive you.
For killing my children, and my sweet husband?
For being so wonderful, that a guy would chose hell over heaven just to hang around you!"
[edit on 4-5-2010 by Unity_99]
Ok let me just say first etman that if we were having this discussion a year ago I would have completly agreed with everything you say. But
experiences of other realms, contemplation and mediation has lead me to another level where the seperate view is still true but there is a unity
underling the whole of creation. Im glad you've let the ra material go a bit because im yet to meet anyone who has had this "oneness" transmitted
to them through words alone, so this conversation could be in vain but ill try.
Firstly yes I agree all those terrible acts you keep listing such as murder are horrible and of course I wouldnt reccomend you kill your family. But the challange has been to see beyond our duality school or to "transcend polarization" in the scope of infinity, get your head out of the page so to speak.
I want to talk about the depth of our disagreement where you think infinity is manyness and I think its unity. Because the "all is one" pholisphy is the basis for other claims which you have a problem with so lets get to basics.
One cannot define or comprehend infinity for every time they think they know what it is they realize much more is still to go, its a never ending mystery that cant ever be completely explored, each time you think you know about you realize there is still more to it. Any concept about infinity you try to put into words or pictures is absolutly meaningless, its but a fraction of infinity. Would you agree that almost infinity(finity) is the opposite to infinity? and that in infinity nothing doesnt exist, but simply all that could be is? One cannot count things in infinity, take the number line for example you think you can count 1, 2, 3, ... but in infinity it actually goes 1.000001, 1.000002 all the way to 1.9999999 and 2 so there are infinity numbers between one and two. Now if you were to take any two of those infinite numbers inbetween and compare it to the one next to it you would realize it is exactly the same, there cannot be any discrete measurable difference or else there would be a number not covered and there would only be a finite amount of numbers. Essentially one could take any two numbers that are side by side in the squence and swap them over and the sequence would still be correct, what is there to distinguish these numbers from each other when they are exactly the same? The paradox is that you could keep comparing numbers next to each other one after the other along the sequence and each time they will be exactly the same as the last, and yet all combinations of numbers are still covered. The next step in comprehension comes in realizing that any two consecutive numbers in the sequence are one and the same thing, it is not possible to distinguish one from the next, for if it were there would only be a finite amount of numbers. So what does one call this infnity sequence of all possibilities, its one thing, its one infinite sequence.
Think of your exploration of infinity like that of a tree for an example, starting at one leaf first you see there are many cells but they are all in one leaf. Then you go but hang on there are many leaves, but they are all on one branch, then you realize it cant be one because there are many branches...and so on untill you realize its all one tree. But then you see another tree and claim its not all one after all, but in the scope of the entire forest, it is one forest. This can go on infinetly each time you think you have manyness it is just a subset part of a bigger "one". And it is my understanding that you may be on the cusp of seeing the next big "one" such as having exhausted the tree your looking out into the forest and will swear it is manyness untill you look down from the skies and see one big chunk of greenery. I see infinity as being all one thing, sure it has many parts but they are all parts of the one. The only number to describe a whole is the number 1. You may say ahh but there are many wholes, still there is one collection of wholes. It keeps coming back to one.
There is only one word to describe infinity and that is unity, it is one infinite. There is no such thing as two infinite or three infnite is there? because these are just the same as one infinite. So seeing as you cant put any other prefix before infninity apart from one, that is why it is called the one infinite creation. In maths the pre-fix one is excluded from many expressions but essentially 1infninite and infinite means the same thing, it just gets dropped for shorthand.
The interconnectedness you feel and observe between nature and other people is the beginning to realizing oneness, eventually it can be seen on a cosmic level.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f71821269592.jpg[/atsimg]
When I look at the above picture I see one rope, where before I used to see many stands and before that many individual fibres.
You could argue, well in infinity there is many ropes, but I would come back and say yes but there is one collection of ropes. It always keeps coming back to unity after manyness.
Eventually you may come to see that on the scope of everthing "all is one"
The other thing is why you seem to belive in imperfection. The imperfection you see is in the eye of the beholder. In the scope of infinity, all is perfect. It is only when one has a finite perception that they encounter a bias for certain things over other things.
-"We don't see the world as it is.
We see the world as WE ARE"
-"You are not one of many. You are really MANY of ONE"
-"the only thing which has to heal
is the illusion of being separate"
-"sarvam khalv idam brahma" (all that we see in the world is brahman)
-"Oneness is an experience, not merely a concept"
-"Simply stated, Oneness is the dissolution of the sense of a fixed, separate self. Once we realize that our concept of the self is an illusion, we become capable of experiencing ourselves as a flow of consciousness that is no longer subject to the limits and conditioning of the mind"
The ego's view of being seperate is a powerfull one, but in meditation it can be overcomed. Come join us in being the all that you have always been. The paradox of life is we try to get somehwere we already were, just realize all is one, you are everything and everything is you. That you seperation is just a very powerfull illusion, a gift.
It is time we join hands globally around the world in oneness meditation.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by polarwarrior]
Firstly yes I agree all those terrible acts you keep listing such as murder are horrible and of course I wouldnt reccomend you kill your family. But the challange has been to see beyond our duality school or to "transcend polarization" in the scope of infinity, get your head out of the page so to speak.
I want to talk about the depth of our disagreement where you think infinity is manyness and I think its unity. Because the "all is one" pholisphy is the basis for other claims which you have a problem with so lets get to basics.
One cannot define or comprehend infinity for every time they think they know what it is they realize much more is still to go, its a never ending mystery that cant ever be completely explored, each time you think you know about you realize there is still more to it. Any concept about infinity you try to put into words or pictures is absolutly meaningless, its but a fraction of infinity. Would you agree that almost infinity(finity) is the opposite to infinity? and that in infinity nothing doesnt exist, but simply all that could be is? One cannot count things in infinity, take the number line for example you think you can count 1, 2, 3, ... but in infinity it actually goes 1.000001, 1.000002 all the way to 1.9999999 and 2 so there are infinity numbers between one and two. Now if you were to take any two of those infinite numbers inbetween and compare it to the one next to it you would realize it is exactly the same, there cannot be any discrete measurable difference or else there would be a number not covered and there would only be a finite amount of numbers. Essentially one could take any two numbers that are side by side in the squence and swap them over and the sequence would still be correct, what is there to distinguish these numbers from each other when they are exactly the same? The paradox is that you could keep comparing numbers next to each other one after the other along the sequence and each time they will be exactly the same as the last, and yet all combinations of numbers are still covered. The next step in comprehension comes in realizing that any two consecutive numbers in the sequence are one and the same thing, it is not possible to distinguish one from the next, for if it were there would only be a finite amount of numbers. So what does one call this infnity sequence of all possibilities, its one thing, its one infinite sequence.
Think of your exploration of infinity like that of a tree for an example, starting at one leaf first you see there are many cells but they are all in one leaf. Then you go but hang on there are many leaves, but they are all on one branch, then you realize it cant be one because there are many branches...and so on untill you realize its all one tree. But then you see another tree and claim its not all one after all, but in the scope of the entire forest, it is one forest. This can go on infinetly each time you think you have manyness it is just a subset part of a bigger "one". And it is my understanding that you may be on the cusp of seeing the next big "one" such as having exhausted the tree your looking out into the forest and will swear it is manyness untill you look down from the skies and see one big chunk of greenery. I see infinity as being all one thing, sure it has many parts but they are all parts of the one. The only number to describe a whole is the number 1. You may say ahh but there are many wholes, still there is one collection of wholes. It keeps coming back to one.
There is only one word to describe infinity and that is unity, it is one infinite. There is no such thing as two infinite or three infnite is there? because these are just the same as one infinite. So seeing as you cant put any other prefix before infninity apart from one, that is why it is called the one infinite creation. In maths the pre-fix one is excluded from many expressions but essentially 1infninite and infinite means the same thing, it just gets dropped for shorthand.
The interconnectedness you feel and observe between nature and other people is the beginning to realizing oneness, eventually it can be seen on a cosmic level.
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When I look at the above picture I see one rope, where before I used to see many stands and before that many individual fibres.
You could argue, well in infinity there is many ropes, but I would come back and say yes but there is one collection of ropes. It always keeps coming back to unity after manyness.
Eventually you may come to see that on the scope of everthing "all is one"
The other thing is why you seem to belive in imperfection. The imperfection you see is in the eye of the beholder. In the scope of infinity, all is perfect. It is only when one has a finite perception that they encounter a bias for certain things over other things.
-"We don't see the world as it is.
We see the world as WE ARE"
-"You are not one of many. You are really MANY of ONE"
-"the only thing which has to heal
is the illusion of being separate"
-"sarvam khalv idam brahma" (all that we see in the world is brahman)
-"Oneness is an experience, not merely a concept"
-"Simply stated, Oneness is the dissolution of the sense of a fixed, separate self. Once we realize that our concept of the self is an illusion, we become capable of experiencing ourselves as a flow of consciousness that is no longer subject to the limits and conditioning of the mind"
The ego's view of being seperate is a powerfull one, but in meditation it can be overcomed. Come join us in being the all that you have always been. The paradox of life is we try to get somehwere we already were, just realize all is one, you are everything and everything is you. That you seperation is just a very powerfull illusion, a gift.
It is time we join hands globally around the world in oneness meditation.
[edit on 4-5-2010 by polarwarrior]
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by polarwarrior
Its never been about polarization its about Love.
This is a contradiction. Polarization is about love. To love more is to polarize. To be more kind is to polarize, to be more compassionate is to polarize etc. etc.
If were talking about the positive path that is. I think it best to drop discussion about the negative path as you dont think it exists or something. Maybe this could help, maybe not, Picture two entities deviating from a common neutral starting point in a centre, out in opposite directions where they obtain opposite charges. For every positive charge there is a neutral counter part and the universe is in a cosmic balance. Suppose the postive finds doorway out of their little circle where they play good vs evil battles, the doorway is to the far side of the positives side so the positive looks most likely to reach it and trascend the game. What the positive doesnt realize is that the negative also has a little door on their own side in which to leave. The negative is very very deceptive by nature and would probably hide this door like they do anything about themselves. The positive would think the only way out is over their side of polarization so out of love would beckon the negative to come join it over its side so that it could leave the game with the positive through the pos doorway. The positive has not realized that they cannot both be positive for there to be any charge, if they both want to be the same charge it is going to have to be neutral to maintain the balance. But being neutral means they cannot deviate from the centre enough to reach their respective little doors. The negative wants to leave first to get an advatage in the next game so it will hide its own door and distract the positive from trying to achieve its own door and try convince the positive to waste its time trying to "convert" the negative. The negative has used religion to help convince the positive that bad people are just good sheep who've lost their way and can be saved to the good side again, captilazing on the postives naievity to distract it long enough to make the jump out of the game.
Sorry for the gross oversimplication, but negatives graduate to the next plane for existance for negatives, and yes it is a bloody awfull place, hell could be one way to describe it. Eventually the two will come back together when duality is left behind.
There is not "right" or "wrong" path they are just opposites to each other. So of course your opposite is going to seem terrible and mean and horrible because you think of your self as nice and loving. But it is incorrect and narrow to think your path is not the only one and the right one, and that something must be done about your opposite. I suppose by default if you think your alright then your opposite must not be or somehting huh
Ok I used to think quite some time ago that the ngeatives needed to wake up to equality and love and light etc. and that I could perhaps help save a few of them but I have since wised up, they know full well how to get out of this game. They have so much hidden ancient texts, et communications, artifacts etc. its not even funny. If they thought jumping over the positive was the only way out they would have already done it.
Cant you see they are deceptive...really deceptive
[edit on 4-5-2010 by polarwarrior]
[edit on 4-5-2010 by polarwarrior]
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