Mysterious radio waves emitted from nearby galaxy

i went to google sky after reading this post. i searched M82 and what looks like just a picture cut and pasted over what's really there. has anyone else noticed this? there was a post on here a few months back about a photo cut out off google sky, it was clearly a picture just cut out. could is this related?

After reading thru the thread I wasnt suprised to see a smattering of conjecture about the event being somehow conected to Nibiru or impending "disclosure"..,I think that we do not have a clue as to what we are seeing..that perhaps the data has been misinterpreted or is a all new phenom that will have to be classified and studied. What Id like help in unerstanding is how the scientists calculated the object in question is moving 4X the speed of light? I mean...if its going faster than light then how could one even "see" it or detect it as the time dilation would be a completly unknown factor...also how can they tell which direction the object is going? if one were to look at..Oh I dunno ..say a Tornado ...if u see the tornado not moving in a lateral direction then it is either moving toward you ( hopefully not!) or away from you...so if they see it moving it must be moving in a paralell direction in relation to us. just some thoughts I had in a very interesting subject.

If I remember right only a year ago a Amateur Astronomer was making the same claims, that he found a "intelligent signal of unknown origin" only for the story to be completely forgotten about some weeks later.

Its just a shame we on Earth (that I know of) cant send a signal back, and even if we did it'd be 12 million years until this object/thing would recieve it. Even if we found out it was just a Pulsar by then.

I sent the article to my astrophysicist friend (who specializes in quasars) and he said the following:

Weird. It could be a knot of plasma driven out in the jet of a microquasar, which would explain the lack of X-ray emission. Perhaps the microquasar itself is obscured by the dusty nebula from its progenitor supernova, hence we only see the jet material which has left the nebula.

Anyway, that's his reaction having just seen the original article linked in this thread. No doubt he'll have more to say in time, assuming he delves into this one more.

[edit on 4/14/2010 by LifeInDeath]

Originally posted by ROBL240
If I remember right only a year ago a Amateur Astronomer was making the same claims, that he found a "intelligent signal of unknown origin" only for the story to be completely forgotten about some weeks later.

Its just a shame we on Earth (that I know of) cant send a signal back, and even if we did it'd be 12 million years until this object/thing would recieve it. Even if we found out it was just a Pulsar by then.

OK Carl Sagan had an argument against sending messages out into the unknown. We have ZERO idea of what types of civilizations are out there nor their motives. That could potentially be like the Aztecs sending Spain an invitation for a nice friendly visit.

Originally posted by Brian1709
i went to google sky after reading this post. i searched M82 and what looks like just a picture cut and pasted over what's really there. has anyone else noticed this? there was a post on here a few months back about a photo cut out off google sky, it was clearly a picture just cut out. could is this related?

Google sky is actually a collection of images, some better then others. The M82 galaxy was photographed by Hubble, and it is that image you see on the galaxy, hence the cut and past look.

-E

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Thanks for the heads up on that thread. I've just caught up reading it through and tomorrow will indeed be interesting.

Originally posted by network dude
so If an object breaks the sound barrier, there is a loud explosion at that exact moment, what happens when the light barrier is broken? Since it's never happened that we know of, it's all just a guess, but it might be a real bright flash of light like what was seen at the beginning of this event. So in theory, it could be another civilization experimenting with their new technology. Just a thought.

Or it might just create a spiral in the sky?!

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No problem! I'm really hoping for smething ambitious to be accounced tommorrow. I would love to believe that we were on the cutting edge of manned space/Mars exploration!

Fingers Crossed
-E-

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"if u see the tornado not moving in a lateral direction then it is either moving toward you ( hopefully not!) or away from you...so if they see it moving it must be moving in a paralell direction in relation to us. just some thoughts I had in a very interesting subject. "

You got paralell and lateral confused above.

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So, this is an object that is emitting radio waves, and the object is moving 4 times the speed of light?...

Kind of sounds like the Enterprise exploringa new region and sending radio transmissions to any neighbors who might be listening...

Good find.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

OK Carl Sagan had an argument against sending messages out into the unknown. We have ZERO idea of what types of civilizations are out there nor their motives. That could potentially be like the Aztecs sending Spain an invitation for a nice friendly visit.

For some reason there are several people who believe that alien civilizations that have the capability for space travel must be very enlightened, civilized, and benign....

It is probably true for SOME civilizations, but I am certian there are many others with NO benign intent...

I think what we have here, folks, is the first evidence of intergalactic space travel by an extraterrestrial civilization. The "explosion" was the launch phase of their mission, and the "persistent radio wave emission" is really just the bow shock wave of their spacecraft tearing through space at 4 times the speed of light.

This might be one of the greatest discoveries of all time.

Or it could just be a really big rail gun projectile on a trajectory to take out the rebel's base in the neighboring solar system. Ouch.

[edit on 14-4-2010 by harrytuttle]

Originally posted by network dude
so If an object breaks the sound barrier, there is a loud explosion at that exact moment, what happens when the light barrier is broken? Since it's never happened that we know of, it's all just a guess, but it might be a real bright flash of light like what was seen at the beginning of this event. So in theory, it could be another civilization experimenting with their new technology. Just a thought.

And I thought I had an imagination! I love the way you put that!!!

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Originally posted by harrytuttle

This might be one of the greatest discoveries of all time.

For us or for them???

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Speed is relative. There is no such thing as an absolute reference frame. For example, how fast are you moving right now?

• 0 mph?
  
• 50 mph?
  
• 800 mph?
  
• 65,000 mph?
  
• 485,000 mph?
  
• 14,000,000 mph?
  

Let us know what your answer is, Mr. Smarty Pants, then we'll see who the genius is.



[edit on 14-4-2010 by harrytuttle]

Originally posted by Dumbass

Originally posted by harrytuttle

This might be one of the greatest discoveries of all time.

For us or for them???

For us. Who knows about them, maybe they've been doing this for a long time, or maybe it's just a test for them?

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by ROBL240
If I remember right only a year ago a Amateur Astronomer was making the same claims, that he found a "intelligent signal of unknown origin" only for the story to be completely forgotten about some weeks later.

Its just a shame we on Earth (that I know of) cant send a signal back, and even if we did it'd be 12 million years until this object/thing would recieve it. Even if we found out it was just a Pulsar by then.

OK Carl Sagan had an argument against sending messages out into the unknown. We have ZERO idea of what types of civilizations are out there nor their motives. That could potentially be like the Aztecs sending Spain an invitation for a nice friendly visit.

Exactly.

I suggest everyone get th is book.

It will certainly open your eyes about whether it is so wise to to broadcast to potential alien races.

[edit on 4/14/2010 by centurion1211]

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And just what makes you so sure that we can hide from an alien intelligence? Shutting down our radio waves isn't going to do us any good. Here's why.

Fact is, our Earth has been broadcasting it's spectral atmospheric signature (which basically screams "There is LIFE here on this planet!!!") since it's birth over 4 billion years ago. While true that the current state of the atmosphere is only about half a billion years old, that's MORE than enough time to transmit our Earth's information about life here to several neighboring galaxies. We ourselves are discovering planets now all the time, and examining the spectral nature of their atmospheres.

Our radio waves? They've only been transmitted to the nearest stars, and only ventured a little ways into our galaxy. It'll take another 60,000 years before the first radio waves reach the other side of our own galaxy.

The odds are that we'll be discovered by alien intelligence because of our planets spectral signature LONG BEFORE we'll be discovered by our radio waves.


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