Night vision goggles and UFO's

I have herd on more than one occasion of people using night vision googles to view " strange " happenings in our night sky . The varying reports tell a tail of UFO's that can be seen , often interacting with one another as well as doing many wondrous maneuvers . The people telling these stories claim that these " objects " are only visible when using these N.V.G .

I am wondering if any of the ATS members out there have a set of these N.V.G and if so , have you ever seen anything with them ?

reply to post by Max_TO


Since '07, huh..?


A little help...

Would love to have night vision goggles, Art Bell has some and used to see all kinds of weird things in the Nevada Desert, don't know if he ever saw anything strange off planet type of things. I believe the military type are now available to the public opposed to what was offered a number of years ago.

reply to post by Aquarius1


P-7's...


But the depth perception still sucks as well as the scope of your vision...used 'em and despite those set backs, they rip.


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[edit on 4/13/2010 by happygolucky]

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I am actually hoping for members personal tails of these N.V.G and there experiences .

If this thread was asking about telescopes my bet is one could also find multiple on that topic as well .

I am hoping to learn via the trusty ATS member as to what there personal experience has been with N.V.G as I have just herd that these N.V.G might be deemed illegal for public sale .

If that is true and if there is something to these N.V.G I just might have to pick a set up before it becomes to late .

So trusty ATS'ers please share your thoughts and personal experiences .

Is it worth buying a set of these goggles before its to late ?

[edit on 13-4-2010 by Max_TO]

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Max TO.....

I believe all objects seen through NV equipment are birds, bats, planes, satellites & meteors except possibly for the delta-shaped object that is the subject of my current thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You might find it interesting.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

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Is it worth buying a set of these goggles before its to late ?

Of course it is...and not just for UFO hunting. Don't forget about the hottie next door...





Search the net high-n-low and make sure to do price comparisons so as not to get ripped off.

reply to post by Max_TO


I have a pair, they are low grade and to be honest, I have never even thought of looking at the sky while wearing them. They're very disorienting until you get used to them. I would think they would need to be super powerful, like military grade to get a view that far, but I am def going to give them a whirl when the weather is cooperative.

I'll let you know if I see anything out of the ordinary.

I prefer infrared technology over light intensification technology.

With infrared you can see straight through walls. And you can see something like a cloaked UFO that gives off heat signatures.

Just basic NV Goggles will not allow you to see anything that is not already visible. It only brightens objects in darkness.

This is why thermal vision is superior in almost every respect.

reply to post by muzzleflash

Wouldn't a cloaked UFO cloak in infrared as well as visible light?
Don't "they" know we have the ability to detect infrared?

Originally posted by Phage
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Wouldn't a cloaked UFO cloak in infrared as well as visible light?
Don't "they" know we have the ability to detect infrared?

It's hard to say what 'they' would or wouldn't do. We might have expectations on what should be the case, but as usual with us, our expectations are always far from the reality we find.

Maybe technological advancement doesn't always equate with common sense advancement? Although we would expect it to be otherwise

i figured i'd join the discussion on this thread as well.

i have a pair of night vision goggles (atn pvs7 third generation) and a modified infrared/uv camcorder (maxmax.com). i use them specifically for ufo hunting during the day and at night time.

both are capable of infrared but the camcorder is much better in this respect. even though night vision devices are light amplifiers, they can still capture a very small portion of infrared. i use the goggles at night to view the sky. you're better off buying 2nd generation and up if you want to use them for this ufo skywatching purpose.

during the day, i use the camcorder along with specific infrared/uv filters (maxmax.com) that allow you to select the ir/uv range you capture on video. with the camcorder, you can see stuff that your eye cannot in regards to ir/uv.

if you live outside the u.s., you can purchase these with some limitations. generally, the quality is slightly lower than if you bought them in the u.s.
in some countries, it is illegal as a civilian to own 3rd generation and above devices (they think you'll be using them for terrorist purposes).

and no, you cannot see through walls with these. you can see through some thin synthetic clothing (the infamous sony x-ray effect). but if you're expecting to have superman x-ray vision, sorry folks.
but yes, expect to see some strange stuff floating/flying in the sky with either the modified camcorders or night vision devices.

thermal vision is indeed fun to play with and have. you can even check out the new "fusion" systems that combine a night vision image overlayed with a thermal image.

browse youtube for these devices and see what they're capable of. it's very interesting stuff to say the least!

I'd say if a ufo was cloaked it'd likely bend light around it using scalar technology.

On topic: I've been pondering a good thermal camera or NVG setup. I primarily want one that can have an HD camera affixed or built in for night shooting nature etc (how it pays for itself) and secondarily for UFO perving in downtime.
Have done a bit of looking into them and have seen generation 1-4 NVG tech. From what I hear g3 is difficult to bring into new zealand with export restrictions however it can be done, as I know of one here.

I guess thermal imaging is the way to go over light intensifiers as mentioned prior, however does anyone have any feedback on what's best for UFO spotting and what's best for filming.... high spec thermal cameras are usually a millitary application from what I see.


edit they had a pretty mean camera on 'The Cove'. A FLIR P series 640 www.flir.com...

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Originally posted by Max_TO
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I am hoping to learn via the trusty ATS member as to what there personal experience has been with N.V.G as I have just herd that these N.V.G might be deemed illegal for public sale .
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Is it worth buying a set of these goggles before its to late ?

[edit on 13-4-2010 by Max_TO]

I can't join the conversation as I have never used N.V.G.s but I just wanted to tell you that on eBay there are hundreds for sale to the public and Completed Listings show that they sell from $40 to over thousands. So get yourself a pair and have fun! It's never too late.

in my experience with this kind of equipment, i'd say if you want the best ufo spotting equipment, it depends on what time of the day you'll be using it and how much you're willing to spend.

if you happen to find a night vision device with a built in video feed, they tend to be of low quality. you're better off buying a separate camcorder if you want say, HD resolution.

buying 4th generation is not better in the long run than a 3rd generation device despite the higher generation number. 4th generation devices have a much shorter lifespan than gen 3. they are not as well built as gen 3. if you have lots of cash burning a whole in your pocket and can afford to buy replacements, then by all means go for a 4th generation device. it will give you minimal improvement in terms of image quality.
certain brands are indeed better than others so you also have to take that into acount as well. a gen 3 brand from one company can meet or exceed the quality of another's 4th generation device.

for animal hunting, a thermal device is tough to beat as you can see through shrubs and locate your prey's heat signature. with a night vision device, you cannot see though objects like a thermal device.

if you live in new zealand, you will have some difficulty getting a 3rd generation and up night vision device. legally, you'll most likely need a license if you want one of these.

if you are on a limited budget, a generation 2 night vision device can work well in many cases. generation 1 though you'll want to avoid as the viewing distance is relatively poor, especially if you want to see the night sky.

Night vision picture quality is very low. So anything in the sky is hard to identify thus everything in nightvision seems to be a UFO.

reply to post by zaiger


sorry but this is not entirely true. if we're talking strictly about ufo objects, then yes it is difficult to identify in some cases as ufos in general give off a lot of heat/ir light or light illumination that can be at times blinding and can easily wash out the image. however, aside from the blinding orbs that you may encounter, night vision devices will allow you to see other non-illuminated parts of said ufo if it is indeed visible at night in the normal visible light spectrum (with a faint hint of ir in it) which otherwise a regular camcorder could not pick up due to the low amount of visible light hitting the camcorder's sensor.
if you have a 2nd generation and above night vision device, the quality is much improved over a 1st generation devices which are generally of low image quality.

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Just wondering are you a sock puppet of another member or something? In the past 2 years you only come around to discuss your videos.

Being poor, and an electronics nut, I built my own night vision viewer from an ex military image intensifier tube I bought surplus.

Basically it just shows what is there, that you can see clearly during the day, but cannot see at night. Nocturnal animals are interesting to watch, but have never seen a UFO.

This equipment does see further into the infrared region than a human eye can, but not by much.
An interesting toy to be sure, and like many things fun to play with for a short while.

reply to post by dede95064


Thanks for that info Is a euro NVS easier to get in than the american stuff? Seems they can have slightly more resolution.

wapedia.mobi...

www.hendonpub.com...

Piece by a janes writer about various NVS.


I also see hints of a combined thermal imaging and G3 NVS tube.... do you know of any? Could be something to wait for if they are cutting edge currently.