"Then God said, 'Let US make man in OUR image, and in OUR likeness'"

The Mormons believe that the world and Adam/Eve were created by 3 Gods whilst Elohim the main God waited in heaven for the 3 Gods to return and report.

Originally posted by Tormentations
Noah put two (male and female) of each animal together into the ark. God created them male and female. Which means God created them a marriage from the get-go, then showed how it would be bad by not creating them a marriage from the get-go with the story of Adam and Eve. Remember, Adam was formed alone unlike in the beginning where man is put male and female (a marital package).


God is a marriage. That's why it's man (male and female; husband and wife) in OUR image. Anyone who thinks God is just a lone person, is a fool.


The Word of God? Marriage is the Word of God. The Word is the marital bond.

So you that are single or have taken a wife to yourselfhave already a wife or wives up in paradise. For we come a marriage but dont see our wives till we are up inner our own paradise homes.

[edit on 7-4-2010 by Tormentations]

Marriage isn't a piece of paper, it is two flesh becoming one...A child.

"Therefore a man must leave his mother and father and cling inside of the woman of him and the two shall become one flesh"...this is the VERY first Command.

God has placed eternity in "MANS HEART"....generation to generation forever.

"I shall not strive IN MAN forever, yet his years will be one hundred and twenty"...

Love one another, don't be a cancer to one another...you are a body of one.

Peace

He was talking to the angels.
They too were created in God's own image.

Originally posted by lee anoma

Originally posted by Archirvion
The jehova also tells you about the god, who came from the heavens.
Anu and enki.

I thought Jehovah was supposed to be Enlil, not Enki.
Enlil was supposed to be the stern hand from the old testament and it was claimed that the stories there were about TWO different deities with differing opinions and not one God that went from hot to cold on his creations.

Enlil floods the world with the intention of ridding all humanity from its face but Enki secretly rallies up a group to be survivors, and so forth.

They were brothers and sons of Anu.

- Lee

Yes, Yahweh being the base of Yam or I AM who was a storm God.

Enlil (nlin), (EN = Lord + LIL = Loft, "Lord of the Open" or "Lord of the Wind")[1] was the name of a chief deity listed and written about in ancient Sumerian, Akkadian, Hittite, Canaanite and other Mesopotamian clay and stone tablets. The name is perhaps pronounced and sometimes rendered in translations as Ellil in later Akkadian, Hittite, and Canaanite literature.
Enlil was considered to be the god of breath, wind, loft, and breadth.[2]

Peace

Originally posted by Tormentations
Noah put two (male and female) of each animal together into the ark.
[edit on 7-4-2010 by Tormentations]

Sorry but if you had read the bible properly you would have found

God instructs Noah to board the Ark with his family, seven pairs of the birds and the clean animals, and two pairs of the unclean animals.

which just goes to show what utter crap that book is. Can you imagine how big this ark would be to hold that amount of animals, the only way this would be remotely possible would be if it were only dna samples he was taking on board but that just opens up a whole new can o worms doesn't it.

The Jews had several different Creation Myths over their long history, many of which were adaptations of Egyptian, Babylonian, Canaanite, Akkadian &tc. and re-structured during the time of Ezra the Scribe (BCE 430) at a time when they no longer worshipped many gods (say, as did Jedediah-Solomon and other clan chiefs prior to the Babylonian Exile of 587 BCE).

Genesis contains (2) Myths

Genesis Creation Myth #1

Gen 1:1 to Gen 2:4a, continued in pieces e.g. in Gen 5:1-2 (where the Divine Name is ELOHIM, the masculine PLURAL of the feminne ELOAH (the god of the Elamite Poem of Job chapters 3-48). Here in this Creation Myth (which uses the language of the prophet Hezekiel, i.e. with a Babylonian accent) male and female are created together (no Adam and Havvah/Eve and ribs and snakes and such), and in Gen 5:1 it repeats the fact that ADAM was BOTH MALE and FEMALE (In the day when Elohim created mankind, Male and Female created he them IN HIS OWN LIKENESS and HE CALLED THEIR NAME ADAM, and he blessed them...)

In this myth, ADAM (male and female) are CREATED FROM ZERO (Heb. BARA - which takes a plural subject ELOHIM (lit. 'gods') but the word ELOHIM is governed by an imperfect active masculine sg. verb BARA (he created) - so it looks like Ezra and his band of merry scribes was trying to adapt a polytheistic Creation Myth he inherited ('many gods') and change it into a post-Exilic ONE GOD ONLY myth, but left ELOHIM in the Plural.

Other Hebrew nouns are Plural as well, but appear 'singular in meaning or intent' e.g. FACE (phanim = lit. faces) or SKY (shamayim = literally heavens) or LIFE (chayim = lit. lives) or WATER (mayim = lit. waters)

In this myth the clan god YHWH (Yahweh) does NOT occur, only the word ELOHIM occurs which is translated as 'god' in the English translations, most familiarly the King James Version of 1611.

The writer/compiler of this myth (called the 'Priestly writer' since he sounds like Hezekiel the priest and also likes numbers and heights and ages and clean v. unclean and measurements &tc like priests tend to do) avoids using YHWH until the Burning Bush episode in Exodus chapter 3, when haShem ('the name') is revealed as the answer to the question: Whom shall I say has sent me to them: Heb has no vowells, but it seems to be: Yehei esher Yehei (I am Asher I am, or 'I am who I am' or 'mind your own business !' - no one can really translate this weird sentence, even the Rabbis are not agreed on what Yehei esher Yehei means exactly)

In this 1st Creation Myth in Genesis, Creation is divided into 6 days (which do NOT follow modern evolution or modern day astronomy theory - you'll notice the presence of a Raq'iak (DOME) or (FIRMAMENT) which surrounds a flat earth - which does not exist in real life (Gen 1:5) and also TREES and GRASS and VEGETATION are created (again by a word, from Zero) BEFORE the SUN, or the STARS or the MOON which is all pre-scientific poetic language .

In fact the numerous repeating chants ('and Elohim saw that is was good') shows that this Myth was chanted during an early priestly New Year Spring festival, which echoes other creation festivals at Springtime in the other cultures around Canaan with their 7-divisions (from the magic number of the 7 gods i.e. sun-moon and the five visible planets - the eyes of the gods)

Genesis Creation Myth #2

Genesis 2:4b to 4:26

In this 2nd creation myth, the writer(s) uses YHWH-Elohim for the divine name ('the LORD god' is used in the King James version, so they could avoid using Yahweh/YHWH) and not ELOHIM. Here we see the talking and walking snake (before he was cursed to crawl on his belly that is--maybe he was a flying snake...) and the forbidden fruit (not an appple: the Latin Vulgate has MALA for the fruit which means both 'EVIL' and 'APPLE' in Latin), and the Tree of Life and the character of Havvah/Hayyah (Eve) who is 'formed' from Adam's rib etc. Here Adam is FORMED from mud i.e. out of pre-existent material. Animals are formed AFTER Adam from mud but before Havvah/Hayyah.

You can highlight with your highlighter the 1st Creation Myth of the Jews (1:1 to 2:4a) with one colour of highlighter, then colour the 2nd Creation Myth of the Jews (2:4b to 4:26) with another colour of highlighter so you can see to TWO stories and how they DO NOT MATCH when you read them side by side.

Only by doing this can you see the two myths do not match very closely, and only in fact have a few words in common.

Curious indeed that most people don't seem to see this when they read the text in English, or in Church....probably because Jewish and Chrsitian clerics do not want to point out these little problems with their religiouse core-texts !!

This little nugget has always intrigued me, why the use of "we"?

As explained to me it was used in the royal case, some Christians use it to defend the Trinity, Muslims and Jews believe that it is used in the royal sense. This however does not explain it in my mind, I will put out there I am Catholic, not that it matters but that is my personal frame of reference, I do not believe that it refers to aliens.

However, what I do not understand with the royal definition is that I did not believe there was a "royal" we until Henry II in I think the 1160s (to lazy to google right now sorry )

The point is, all religious texts were written by the time Henry came into the picture, therefore the explanation does not make sense to me.

Can anyone help me out, if I am infact incorrect.

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I am a scientists and are talking about our foundings from the work together with archeologists and historians(most of it classified). I have been quite busy with it lately so i dont know what zeitgeist is even. Sorry if that insults you somehow.

[edit on 7-4-2010 by Archirvion]

Originally posted by smoore3
"Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the SPIRIT OF GOD was hovering over the waters." Genesis 1:2

I believe that the above verse states the Holy Spirit was present.

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." Genesis 3:15

Most all Bible scholars agree that this is a clear reference to Jesus.

These were just two examples that demonstrate a Spirit, Jesus, and God presence in the Old Testament. There are really many, many more.

So with this information, I believe He is actually speaking of the Trinity. Just my opinion.

Peace.

Offspring being the most important part of that verse, because without them, the blood is on your head. No magic names will save you from that day....Names mean things, hence IN the name. Jesus is an action.

You have 40, 9, 150, repeated over and over and no one knows who the real savior is....

"Why deny the obvious child...." Paul Simon

To be frank with you all. You all are right. Information gotten from different places\different religions and "myths". But if you see the big picture, it all goes around in circles and all of them connect to eachother.

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Sorry about that, you are right.

Originally posted by Archirvion
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand

 

I am a scientists and are talking about our foundings from the work together with archeologists and historians. I have been quite busy with it lately so i dont know what zeitgeist is even. Sorry if that insults you somehow.

Insult me? How? No worries at all friend. I hope I didn't insult you. Sorry if I did.

Hmm....this must just be a common thread running through academia then, anyhow, Zeitgeist is a movie about exactly what you said, plus the fed and some other stuff. Interesting, but Jesus is not represented by the Sun regardless, but rather Saturn/Ninib/Kronus(Christ)...etc.

Peace

The answer is obvious if you have studied the most ancient documents of human civilization. According to these most ancient documents (whether you believe what they say or not), humans were created by the "gods" who were/are from another planet. They genetically manipulated the "primitive man" of the time by combining their dna with pieces of dna from their own race. The result was humans, bred to be intelligent laborers, but not to live as long as the "gods".

That's what the most ancient documents in the world say, and they are remarkably specific, depicting rockets, flying "gods" and craft, advanced weaponry and astronomical knowledge impossible to know without telescopes.

The Hebrew mistranslations are widely known in the academic community, often referring several different and separate "gods" as "God" or "Lord", and thus confusing the original text.

How about.....When the Levites were busily re-writing whatever 'truth from God' was popular that year, they wrote in the plural? Sometimes the simplest explanations are hard to see. Personally I think chewing over ancient and not so ancient text is a waste of time and only causes division between those eager to protect their beliefs at any cost.

reply to post by letthereaderunderstand


Yes and we simply love what you others are commenting about all this. In the modern era we actually got the result from all of this in 1940s with our own instruments. We doubled checked with historians ect,and our instruments came up with the same answer.

We also got alot of help from a very special doctor during WW2,many refers to him as "the crazy nazi doctor". He did alot of different projects, some "random" than others, but all in all he was one brilliant mind.

Well according to our archive,you are actually on to something,but the zeitgeist idea is also onto the truth, its a mixture to be honest were both points are correct. How is that possible? Up to the public to find out.

Well, there is an intellectual approach with openness to knowledge and there is the approach of believing something already, and trying to adapt what you see to fit it.

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Very well written couldnt have said it better myself. And proof of that is coming up more and more every day. We are actually working on this now, how we are supposed to make this public. Every sceptical mind will go , baboom

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had 2 actually fast forward the zeitgeist though,hadnt seen it before. amazing information there.

reply to post by letthereaderunderstand


Hey thanks for that!
Did not know that bit of information.

Very interesting.

- Lee

Originally posted by executioner

Originally posted by Tormentations
Noah put two (male and female) of each animal together into the ark.
[edit on 7-4-2010 by Tormentations]

Sorry but if you had read the bible properly you would have found

God instructs Noah to board the Ark with his family, seven pairs of the birds and the clean animals, and two pairs of the unclean animals.

which just goes to show what utter crap that book is. Can you imagine how big this ark would be to hold that amount of animals, the only way this would be remotely possible would be if it were only dna samples he was taking on board but that just opens up a whole new can o worms doesn't it.

Problem is there was never a "boat" involved though for some reason NO ONE knows this...The greatest conspiracy of All time. The ARC's "Plural" are all around the world but the main three sit in Giza...

Also your idea of how many animals were involved would be insanity, but if you read again we aren't talking more then 400 in total and all of them being new born. Clean and Unclean are very specific. You can find that list in Leviticus.

Peace