"Then God said, 'Let US make man in OUR image, and in OUR likeness'"

Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground (Genesis 1:26)

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of US, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever" (Genesis 3:22)

Come, let US go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other (Genesis 11:7)

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So why is God speaking in pluralities?

A lot of people will tell you that God speaks this way because it is in reference to the Christian Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). However, I personally do not subscribe to this claim because these passages are from Genesis, in the Hebrew Old Testament. The concept of a "Trinity" is a Christian concept that was not created until the Christian New Testament (many thousands of years later after the recordings of the Hebrew books).

So then again I ask, why is God speaking in pluralities?

If people want to claim mis-translation of old bible languages, then surely later bible scholars would have caught this error and corrected the language back to singular language referring to one God, wouldn't they?

This raises a question: Could those passages have not been said by God at all? But rather by god-like beings?

Genesis makes claim that a race of powerful Giants used to inhabit this earth (a passage that Christian churches conveniently like to overlook or not include with their Sunday scripture readings):

"There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown" (Genesis 6:4)

Could these Nephilim be the plural form of a god-like being that created man? Could we be a bio-engineering project of these beings?

If one looks to ancient Sumeria, you will notice that individual kings ruled for tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of years. And depictions of these kings showed them to be substantially giant in comparison to their human servants:




What is everyone's opinion on this subject? Why do Christian churches fail to acknowledge these Giants mentioned in Genesis (at least from my experiences)?

He's talking to himself, but to the different aspects of himself. Or maybe it's the royal "our" like the royal "we".

In any event, why ask people here? Ask a Hebrew scholar, you know - someone who might actually know!

Great topic...one that intrigues me a great deal. I tend to believe that "us" implies a god-like people. I tend to agree with Sitchin in the general belief that we are a hybrid species, and this falls in nicely with that idea--not that I have anything to gain LOL.

Your comment about the Trinity is exactly right. I believe that "us" cannot possibly be a reference to the trinity for two reasons: 1) It came out of the Council of Nicea long after and 2) The trinity dealt with the issue of the duality of Christ at that time--most "christians" are ignorant to the true meaning and implications of the Trinity.

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Because God is the god of the Living, not the dead. If it's not alive, it's not God.

What you need to understand is that in the Hebrew it isn't "And God said", it is "And God is Saying"....not said...."Saying".

Now, who's God?

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No one f's with "the Jesus"...

Please understand that I am not a Hebrew scholar. My interest is Ancient Egypt and my ancient language abilities confined to Middle Egyptian. However, you are correct that in the early chapters of Genesis, the Hebrew word translated as God, or more properly "Lord" is actually written in the plural. This word, transliterated into English, is Elohim. The singular form would be, again transliterated into English, El. For example, in later books of the Old Testament, the word Beth-el is found, meaning House of the Lord. I do not know why this is the case however.

Yes- But you know that this god is Enki right? That he made us in his image Using gene manipulation. Enki is an annanukki. He is the god for all religions on the planet. The christian god,the egyptian god,the sumerian god,the muslims.

The jehova also tells you about the god, who came from the heavens.
Anu and enki.

You guys probably dont know that the christian jesus is our sun =The sun in our galaxy.
Who rise every morning giving us comforth and safety to our crops and so on

Dont missunderstand me, the bible is almost perfect. But its a astrological notebook as all other religions on our planet. Kept in order for thousands of years through awsome personification

Noah put two (male and female) of each animal together into the ark. God created them male and female. Which means God created them a marriage from the get-go, then showed how it would be bad by not creating them a marriage from the get-go with the story of Adam and Eve. Remember, Adam was formed alone unlike in the beginning where man is put male and female (a marital package).


God is a marriage. That's why it's man (male and female; husband and wife) in OUR image. Anyone who thinks God is just a lone person, is a fool.


The Word of God? Marriage is the Word of God. The Word is the marital bond.

So you that are single or have taken a wife to yourselfhave already a wife or wives up in paradise. For we come a marriage but dont see our wives till we are up inner our own paradise homes.


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If you replace lord or god with 'nephillim' or 'the alien invadors' ...

It reads as if there are multiple entities...at least two.

two sides...one wanting fellow godlings, the other fearing the creation.

there is also a distinction between God and Lord God, made very clear...God simply does stuff, act like a mysterious God being that is somewhat detatched.

Lord God acts more like a individual manifested entity, from speaking stuff, to being fooled, etc...very different personalities at work.

I did a thread about this that is a sort of comparison between the two and got some fairly interesting debate going. Ultimately, the Lord appears to be the morning star..corrupting the creation from day one while posing as a physical representation of God.

If your bored, feel free to poke through it HERE

Originally posted by GW8UK
If you replace lord or god with 'nephillim' or 'the alien invadors' ...

close...I suggest replacing the word Lord with "The Alien"...then the whole story makes sense.

Interesting question re Pluralities. Satan says 'My name is legion for we are many', and satan was an angel apparently, maybe god/s are the same?

You normal human christians dont know after all this time who your god is?..It took me 6 monhts of study reading through facts and history the last 35 000 years to figure out who your god is. And you know what,same religion on this planet are having the same god,not even by knowing it.

Search for Anu or enki. or the annunaki, then u get the answer HOW the christian religion and all other religions are made

Originally posted by Archirvion
The jehova also tells you about the god, who came from the heavens.
Anu and enki.

I thought Jehovah was supposed to be Enlil, not Enki.
Enlil was supposed to be the stern hand from the old testament and it was claimed that the stories there were about TWO different deities with differing opinions and not one God that went from hot to cold on his creations.

Enlil floods the world with the intention of ridding all humanity from its face but Enki secretly rallies up a group to be survivors, and so forth.

They were brothers and sons of Anu.

- Lee

Archirvion, you have come to the same conclusion that I have. Religion closes one's minds to other possibilities...much like living in darkness. Maybe this is why the Illuminati chose their name.

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Then God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, in OUR likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground (Genesis 1:26)

"There were giants (Nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown" (Genesis 6:4)

Yeah yeah, everybody that have read Zecharia Sitchin's books know that...

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Wake me up when the Anunnaki come back.

Originally posted by Archirvion
Yes- But you know that this god is Enki right

? That he made us in his image

Using gene manipulation. Enki is an annanukki. He is the god for all religions on the planet. The christian god,the egyptian god,the sumerian god,the muslims.

The jehova also tells you about the god, who came from the heavens.
Anu and enki.

You guys probably dont know that the christian jesus is our sun

=The sun in our galaxy.
Who rise every morning giving us comforth and safety

to our crops and so on

Dont missunderstand me, the bible is almost perfect. But its a astrological notebook as all other religions on our planet. Kept in order for thousands of years through awsome personification

Zeitgeist. They have no idea what they are doing. They mean well, but they really don't know what they are doing.

Jesus is not represented by the sun. Does the sun look like a "winged" disk to you?

Look to the Halo'd dead star who is soon to "rise" again. Probably going to be a "Saturn" day when the double edge of that one rips us a new one.... After all, Saturn is called NINIB...Nibiru being a bad translation, who is "the time keeper".

The reaper always comes with a sickle.

Ever seen what a "diamond studded" cutting blade can do? Hail the size of small vw's.
Just look at that trench on mars for a taste....

Pay attention to this indent..


Peace

Originally posted by wayaboveitall
Interesting question re Pluralities. Satan says 'My name is legion for we are many', and satan was an angel apparently, maybe god/s are the same?

Satan means Adversary. That's all. Anyone can be your satan. It's like a valentine....look out for cupid.

Peace

"Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the SPIRIT OF GOD was hovering over the waters." Genesis 1:2

I believe that the above verse states the Holy Spirit was present.

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." Genesis 3:15

Most all Bible scholars agree that this is a clear reference to Jesus.

These were just two examples that demonstrate a Spirit, Jesus, and God presence in the Old Testament. There are really many, many more.

So with this information, I believe He is actually speaking of the Trinity. Just my opinion.

Peace.