lucus video and text presentation

reply to post by Unity_99


These so called elites have already siphoned what they could from humanity. Now when the real thing comes and leave us for dead; then they will be laughing and start a new. Even the akkadian, Babylonian, and sumerian tablets state this all the way back to the great flood. when enki just saved ziusudra or noah.

Originally posted by dragnet53
reply to post by ngchunter

 

I don't know what to say on Jcaterra videos. Even phage backtracked on the video that was in question on Nibiru. But as I have stated the real thing could appear and we would never know it because people like you would debunk it.

If it's real give me the coordinates and I won't debunk it; I'll gladly expose it and show it to anyone who wants to see it. I examined Jcattera's coordinates with my own scope; there was nothing there. His videos are a hoax, astrometry of them proved he was flat-out lying about the coordinates. The true coordinates showed he was looking at Mars and then Dubhe. There's simply no question about it. If Lucus or anyone else wants to give me coordinates for Nibiru I'll put it to the test in visible as well as infrared light.

[edit on 5-8-2010 by ngchunter]

reply to post by Austexdude


Another useless post by Lucus. About all he says here is that the importance of this thread is free advertising for him.

This is a repeated claim in which he makes it abundantly clear that all he wants is attention.

reply to post by ngchunter


yeah and then you guys will just say oh it is just this or that. LOL I have heard it many of times. It is the same lame ass tactics for those that believe 9/11 was some how an inside job.




[edit on 5-8-2010 by dragnet53]

reply to post by Austexdude


Thanks for pointing out your repeated misrepresentation of the newspaper article. What has been left out is paragraph 2. The casual reader might not be aware that Lucus is cherry picking lines out of the article.

So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby “protostar” that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.

The deception Lucus uses is skip over the 2nd paragraph so you do not see that the astronomer stated that the object could be anywhere from our solar system to a distant galaxy.

It was a distant galaxy. That was published in 1985 by Neugebauer who is mentioned in the article.

Originally posted by dragnet53
reply to post by ngchunter

 

yeah and then you guys will just say oh it is just this or that. LOL I have heard it many of times.

Well if you show me Dubhe I'll expose you as showing Dubhe while claiming it to be something else.
www.flickr.com...
If your coordinates really are genuine though I will not only provide a view of Nibiru, I'll even track it and calculate an orbit for you. Just claiming I'd do otherwise without any proof just shows your personal bias. It's that same personal bias that kept you from accepting my analysis of Jcattera's videos.

I'm an amateur astronomer. The discovery of Nibiru would be huge if it weren't a bunch of BS, and like any other amateur astronomer I'd be more than eager to find and show a new object in the sky.

[edit on 5-8-2010 by ngchunter]

Originally posted by ngchunter

Originally posted by dragnet53
reply to post by ngchunter

 

yeah and then you guys will just say oh it is just this or that. LOL I have heard it many of times.

Well if you show me Dubhe I'll expose you as showing Dubhe while claiming it to be something else.
www.flickr.com...
If your coordinates really are genuine though I will not only provide a view of Nibiru, I'll even track it and calculate an orbit for you. Just claiming I'd do otherwise without any proof just shows your personal bias. It's that same personal bias that kept you from accepting my analysis of Jcattera's videos.

I'm an amateur astronomer. The discovery of Nibiru would be huge if it weren't a bunch of BS, and like any other amateur astronomer I'd be more than eager to find and show a new object in the sky.

[edit on 5-8-2010 by ngchunter]

You can claim BS all you want...it is IMPOSSIBLE to disprove something that has not happened.

Before the discovery of an atom, did it exist?

Fact is... The Egyptians celebrated a 360 day calendar...Then something huge happened, and changed the course of humanity. The Egyptians were forced to include 5 more days on the 360 day calendar, so they designated those days as "Days of the Dead"

Hundreds and hundreds of global flood stories from all walks of life.

Scientifically, a global flood can only happen during an impact event, or a polar/axis tilt shift. There is not enough water on the planet to flood the world, it would take an event to do it.

The ice core data shows a definate pattern. It's like clockwork, you can see the pattern clearly. Maybe you need new glasses?

You can go on all you want astronut...very few people believe you.

reply to post by ngchunter


I never believe anything on youtube.

in fact I hardly believe things on here. I sometimes hope they're real, but I know the truth. But here is why I say it is real. look at all the recent fireballs happening since 2009. They have increased a lot. they are supposed to happen every 30 years or so. Now those 'comets' hitting jupiter on the south side was kind of an eye opener as well. It is out there and people claim it might be near oort cloud. Can your telescope see that far?

even though i don't believe in the bible or revelations one verse comes to mind talks about watching the signs in the heavens.

reply to post by Austexdude


So while the newspapers couldn't get the story straight even after they correctly quoted the astronomers, we find the following peer reviewed articles from that time period.

Houck et al - Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey
Houck et al - Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies
Aaronson - Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies
Soifer et al - Infrared galaxies in the IRAS minisurvey

It has been 25 years since these papers were published and no one claiming to have done even minimal research could have overlooked these articles. Within a year of the collection of the IRAS data the cause of the unknown infrared signatures in the data was identified.

The cause is listed right there in the newspaper articles.

So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby “protostar” that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through.

The astronomers did not exclude anything. They included a lot of possibilities and the very interesting result was one of the items in the list they originally suggested.

What this teaches us is to be careful when trying to get scientific information from a newspaper report.

reply to post by Unity_99


You need to learn what research is really all about. Another endorsement from someone that supports the pseudo-scientific baloney of pole shifts.

I wonder how BP plays into events. This was a huge disaster. The videos below show that they dumped incredible amounts of toxins in with the oil. That they lied about 75% of the oil being gone. Its in the sand! That they own shares in the company for the toxic chemical.

And a pdf that seems to be from an Italian Physics laboratory regarding the Gulf Oil and the Gulf Stream Current, stalling, which apparently is not like its usual cycles, for they've taken years worth of data.

This would disturb weather patterns and possibly might explain why on the west coast in a rain forrest we have had no rain for a month, things are drying up and 400 fires raging in the province.

I wonder just what these people are up to, with all that they're hiding already, this seems to me like an end game move.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
OIL Bubbling up from under the sand!


Project Deep Horizon Cut-Throat Part 1


Project Deep Horizon Cut-Throat Part 2


Project Deep Horizon Cut-Throat Part 3

www.associazionegeofisica.it...

RISK OF GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE BY BP OIL SPILL
Gianluigi Zangari
Frascati National Laboratories (LNF) - National Institute of Nuclear Physics (INFN)
Frascati 00044, Via E. Fermi, 40, ITALY
Correspondence to: Gianluigi Zangari Email: [email protected]
Abstract: BP Oil Spill may cause an irreparable damage to the Gulf
Stream global climate thermoregulation activity.

Would they do this if a cylce wasnt ending? If something wasn't coming? I do not for one moment think they did this "accidentally".

Are they concerned that what may coming isn't going to be severe enough and want to prod something bigger?

reply to post by ngchunter


Ngchunter, what people should also learn is that the newspaper mentions that:

Evidence assembled in recent years has led several groups of astronomers to renew the search for the 10th planet. They are devoting more time to visual observations with the 200-inch telescope at Mount Palomar in California. They are tracking two Pioneer spacecraft, now approaching the orbit of distant Pluto, to see if variations in their trajectories provide clues to the source of the mysterious force. And they are hoping that a satellite-borne telescope launched last week will detect heat “signatures” from the planet, or whatever it is out there.

This is paragraph 2. The observations of the motions of the spacecraft were used to show that the estimated mass of Neptune was off. The use of the corrected mass as evidenced by the observed flyby made the search for a planet moot since the perturbations went away.

Did Lucus forget to mention that? Of course he did.

reply to post by Unity_99


You call the article a leak?
This is getting sillier by the minute. The article very clearly quotes the astronomers. The only people misrepresenting the article and avoiding subsequent follow up information are those with a sad agenda to lie to other people about IRAS. It's a sad lie because it is so obvious to people that it's a lie.

We know. Get it already. We the people know.

You have made it very plain in other threads that you do not do research. You get your info from friends and anecdotal stories. You also make things up as you go along.

With the beings running this planet, you don't need a cosmic event. They are a cosmic catastrophe already. And its very very alarming.

reply to post by Unity_99


I agree in a sense. I believe humanity has grown way too big in populous. I believe personally this is the largest humanity has gone since its creation. A simple global flood couldn't wipe us out. they need something more because of our 6 billion or so humans on this earth. Just as lucus stated with the georgia guide stones to maintain 500,000,000. I believe georgia will be a safe environment after this event.

reply to post by dragnet53


That's a ridiculous comment. If there were a rogue planet and a person discovered it, then they would be really famous. There are comet hunters that search constantly for comets. There is a Japanese amateur who has found all sorts of comets. There is an Australian amateur who has found 3 impacts on Jupiter and he has made international news. Your claim is simply false.

reply to post by dragnet53


When we call your bluff you come up with a lame excuse as to why you can't produce something. Here you have someone with access to technology that is willing to use it and you balk because there is nothing but bluster behind your claim.

reply to post by Austexdude


Your argument makes no sense just like your presentation.

The Egyptians celebrated a 360 day calendar

Long before the Egyptians were trying to get their calendar fixed the Sumerians had a properly working calendar. So your claim is an utter failure. Before making really obvious, clumsy mistakes do a small amount of research.

Scientifically, a global flood can only happen during an impact event, or a polar/axis tilt shift. There is not enough water on the planet to flood the world, it would take an event to do it.

Polar shifts are slow and have not happened in 200 Ma so that is a non-starter. An impact would not cause a global flood. It would cause complete annihilation of the terrestrial ecosystem.

There is no evidence in the geological record of a global flood. The hundreds of flood stories are all very different. Some are not even water. Most wash off the ground and do not kill everything. Most are not global in nature.

Another post with a complete failure of claims. Not surprising.

Relax debunkers...listen to some music.

reply to post by dragnet53


Fireballs have not increased. I have seen fireballs bright enough to cast shadows, but have not seen 1 in the last 10 years. There is a simple reason for that. I have not spent a lot of time outdoors like I used to.

The objects hitting Jupiter is good. There is a belief that the mass of Jupiter effectively collects material that might otherwise pose a threat to us on Earth. The only reason more is being detected on Jupiter is that there is an amateur astronomer watching Jupiter.

Here are 2 links about the flux of meteors hitting Earth.
Meteoroid
The flux of small near-Earth objects colliding with the Earth