Robinesque Ruminations

reply to post by westcoast


This is what I too remember WC and have kept it in my memory bank to see if indeed Oklahoma was the one to be watching. How( if it even does) does this area in OK affect Arkansas is what I would like to know as well. Drawing a straight line ....what does that mean or where does that leave the New Madrid. Does it factor in, I guess is what I'm asking because I have a feeling you will say it does!

Your gut feeling WC should be an attention getter from now on. I mean, we have feelings for a reason, ya know and yours in regards to EQ has been spot on.

reply to post by MamaJ


My feeling is that it does, mamaj. But I don't know why, other than that they line up so would make sense they may be on the same fault.

That is where I would like Robin to expand a bit more and perhaps tie this together. I trust his ruminations.

Originally posted by westcoast
reply to post by MamaJ

 

My feeling is that it does, mamaj. But I don't know why, other than that they line up so would make sense they may be on the same fault.

That is where I would like Robin to expand a bit more and perhaps tie this together. I trust his ruminations.

edit on 5-11-2011 by westcoast because: (no reason given)

You were right ..... and I am not surprised either as it seemed as if they would have more to come, possibly bigger. This morning around 1:30 it shook the town with a 5.6. Do you think there is still a bigger one to come, like with Japan?

Robin, you are on my mind today, more so than most days. I hope your able to gain stable ground and clarity.

You have already done so very much. Just by starting and precipitating the AR thread. You planted the seed. Thats all that needed to be done. But your nurtured it and it grew. From that comes real change. We have affected some of that change already. And it isn't stopping. JustMike's song is breathing life into new venues and taking our cause to others who may have not seen your work. You have satisfaction in knowing you did something that provides a foundation for others.

Dear Lord, I pray for Robin, in his hour of need. Bring him peace and good health. Stay with him and assure him you are always there, doing what he needs done.

I know you said you pray, but question all it's encompassing debates. So I pray to my God, for you. So that your God may bring you relief.

much loves, and feel my big ol hugs encircling you, lifting you up for healing grace.

Hey Winston - I want a word or two with you - now!

I do understand that you are Trying to protect our Friend Robin. I understand that is why you are here. I understand that you must protect him when he is feeling overwhelmed and weak because he can not accomplish what he feels he must and to do the things he feels is his responsibilty to do. I understand all of this!!

But, it is time for you to go back now, back in so that Robin may join us again. There are a number of things that you are not capable of even though you think you are stronger than our Friend Robin.

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Robin, time to join us now, we have things in the making I need your thinking on (not you Winston) - Robin, what is your take on this new quake - the 4.2 in Montana? Random, Large - out of the ordinary! I worry on Hegben Lake! - leading to Yellowstone!

Yes, we are well aware of the drilling in the area, we Must look beyond that at the moment.

Come back to Us Robin. It is time now!!

reply to post by Anmarie96


I think the quake is normal. It's in some mountains and is most likely tectonic. Alternate thought. Maybe the chamber is being recharged. Gotta stop there.

reply to post by ericblair4891

Hello Eric,

my first feeling also was that this Montana quake is pretty normal. The region has a fair bit of seismicity, historically. That first feeling was just as I considered that one quake in isolation.

However, my second feeling, which followed a few seconds later, was that I have rarely seen so many quakes showing on the Nth America/US maps in such a wide diversity of places, and that bothers me. And that led me back to that particular quake.

I need to check how often they get quakes around that magnitude or bigger in that region. Must do a search of a database.

EDIT: ok, did the search in the NEIC database from Jan 1, 1973 to Nov 10, 2011 for quakes mag 4.0 or bigger within 160 km (100 miles) of the Montana quake's epicenter at 46.62°N, 113.56°W (rounded to 2 digits) and got the following:

NEIC: Earthquake Search Results

U. S. G E O L O G I C A L S U R V E Y

E A R T H Q U A K E D A T A B A S E



FILE CREATED: Sat Nov 12 16:42:23 2011
Circle Search Earthquakes= 18
Circle Center Point Latitude: 46.620N Longitude: 113.560W
Radius: 160.000 km
Catalog Used: PDE
Date Range: 1973/01/01 to 2011/11/10
Magnitude Range: 4.0 - 10.0
Data Selection: Historical & Preliminary Data


CAT YR MO DA ORIG TIME LAT LON DEP MAG IEM DTSVNWG DIST
......................................................................................NFO....................km
.......................................................................................TF

PDE 1975 01 17 041856.10 47.44 -114.35 5 4.4 mbGS .F. ........ 109
PDE 1978 04 23 232437 46.97 -113.27 5 4.9 MLGS 5F. .......... 44
PDE 1978 11 10 095345.60 47.01 -113.33 5 4.3 MLGS 5F. ........ 46
PDE 1979 06 22 120226.80 45.32 -112.83 5 4.4 MLGS 5F. ....... 154
PDE 1980 03 10 144856.50 47.30 -113.39 5 4.4 MLGS 4F. ........ 77
PDE 1983 03 17 072556.69 47.53 -112.70 5 4.2 mbGS 5F. ....... 119
PDE 1985 04 01 091314.21 47.28 -113.23 10 4.8 mbGS 6D. ....... 77
PDE 1987 07 23 015257.76 47.72 -113.67 5 4.2 MLBUT 5F. ....... 122
PDE 1990 11 30 113048.37 47.77 -113.16 5 4.0 MLBUT ... .......... 131
PDE 1992 03 21 015743.01 47.29 -113.27 5 4.1 MDBUT 4F. ........ 77
PDE 1992 04 01 113347.71 47.88 -113.73 5 4.2 MLBUT 3F. ....... 141
PDE 1998 04 15 022835.45 48.01 -113.75 4 4.1 MDBUT .F. ....... 154
PDE 1998 10 28 031154.41 45.70 -112.13 5 4.1 MDBUT .F. ....... 150
PDE 2000 06 28 142831.90 46.62 -113.54 9 4.5 MLGS .F. .......... 1
PDE 2002 07 19 195826 47.43 -113.05 24 4.0 MLBUT .F. .......... 98
PDE 2005 07 26 040837.16 45.37 -112.61 12 5.6 MwHRV 6DM .... 157
PDE 2005 07 27 155145.85 45.38 -112.60 5 4.0 MwSLM 4FM ....... 156
PDE 2009 03 06 112954.50 45.70 -112.13 11 4.0 mbGS 4F. ....... 150

Source: NEIC Quake Database Search Results

There have been just 18 quakes of mag 4.0 or bigger within that defined region in the past 38 years. One every two years or so, on average. And of that set, there have been only 11 equal to or larger than the Friday 11/11 event. (ie, about one every three years or so.) Few have been real close to that spot; the last one almost bang on the same location (and in fact within 1 km) was back on 28 June, 2000.

So, such quakes are pretty uncommon there.

Note, however, that there was a mag 5.6 Mw about 95 miles (157) from that location on 26 July, 2005. So, even if we see more quakes and they get up into that kind of magnitude range it doesn't have to indicate anything more massive is impending. It might, but doesn't have to.

But if scoffers (or paid disinfo agents ) pass the comment, "Oh, a mag 4.2 in that part of Montana? Hey, they get them all the time so it's no big deal. You people need to get a life, etc etc," then you can tell them they're wrong. Once every three years is not "all the time".

And point them to this post or the linky supplied, which will confirm that what I've posted is what a well-respected and official data base says.

Mike

Okay. So I was not exactly right about the banks. Well, it's really that I was off on the timing. It's getting grimer. The Germans couldn't sell bonds. They'll be attacking French banks next. I think it took longer than I thought because if it was obvious to me what was happening, then it was obvious to the Europeans. Well, they fought back. Think of it like a siege on a castle. The invaders are knocking holes all over the place to keep the Europeans running around to reinforce. Meanwhile, there is a battering ram at the front gate. The Germans and French are forced to the gate. The Americans not going to stop. They are undermining the walls. Something will collapse soon. I'll let you know when I figure out what will be the trigger. I'm thinking a French hedge fund. Maybe connected with US fund. I could be wrong. But I think the stage is set.

Tonight after the news I am more sure than ever the fix is in. Italy has to pay double interest on bonds. I've heard reports about the end of the Euro. Another on BBC, wondering if all the talk of a crisis is causing a self-reinforcing prophecy and if the media was partly to blame. I've been telling you about how they would keep up the rumours and pressure. Once again, the market has sold off. The high volume traders are cashing in.

Moody's, or one of the other ratings agencies have lowered the score for Hungary and Belgium.
If you have read my economic rantings, then you know this has all been to kill the Euro.
So, if someone wonders why all this is happening, you can tell them the facts. It's another American War, don't forget the British, only this one is an economic battle.

If there isn't a full blown banking crisis next week, I'll be completely surprised.
Watch for China to step into the picture if things look like they're going over a cliff. They are the relucant participate and they won't stay on the fence forever. They might be forced to buy Europe or lose a big customer.

One last thing. The Americans could back off at this point. They've already done enough. They damaged the Euro enough to kill the Chinese idea of multiple currencies pricing oil. The Euro is destabalized. Gold is not as secure and long term as it once was. That may sound nuts, but most smart people know it's now a bubble market and you don't want to be holding when it sells off. So, although valuable at the moment, it's volitile and uncertain. Remember, the Chinese want a value that won't fluctuate wildly. Well, that's not going to happen and the Americans have schooled the Chinese on the way the markets work. So, in a wild world, the Greenback once again looks like the only sure thing. So, shouldn't the Americans stop while they're ahead?

If that's all they wanted, yes. But, the may want to crash the whole thing again so they can buy up as much as they can when everything sells off and it's a bottom. I'm afraid this may be the case. Short term pain, for long term gain.

I don't like giving advice about what you should do with your money. So, I'm just telling you we are in for another several years of recession, which will official make this a depression.

Don't stock up on canned foods though. The lining is a plastic and there is high levels of BPA which contaminates the food and it is bad of you.

If you were to judge my economic prediction by today's headlines, you'd think I was out to lunch. Heck, I would actually like to be wrong. For many reasons. The markets are making huge gains today, following yesterday's gains. Central banks have captalized the system. "Happy Days are Here Again".

I hope the crisis is over. Just a few days ago they were talking about the death of the Euro. Today, there's lots of profits to be made. Manic.

What I'm going to do now is watch for the first negative signals that will reverse this "good news". Heck, maybe I'm wrong, and I won't find any contray analysis. Maybe then I'll shut up.

Right now, the Dow is almost hitting 12000. Let's see how long the rally lasts. I bet there's automatic sell orders at 12000.

www.bloomberg.com...

In time to edit. As a baseline, I've looked at Bloomberg's website and scanned for negative stories. Right now, it's all rosy. Positive housing stats. Better job numbers. Car sales look good. Etc. Amazing. Four days ago, it was a much more grim news. Hmmm. Even Google news isn't headlining negative stories. The other day, Canada was cautious and giving warnings. Today, it's growth beat forecasts. Dow, about 11977.

www.google.com...

Why? Lots of reasons. Mostly natural.

www.calgaryherald.com...

So, the Dow went over 12000. And, there's been mostly positive news on Bloomberg. But the mix is changing. There's still the undercurrent of stories about the Euro. One was whether or not they can stop the death of the common currency. I've been noticing several negative clouds. They're just not mainstream concerns right now. One issue has to do with that New Jersey's Former Govenor and how it's affective farmers in the midwest.

I was starting to wonder if I was wrong again. It looks like things are on the mend. But then this story crossed the wires. S&P is going on a downgrade shooting spree.

www.bloomberg.com...

This morning's open was quick buying off stock. Tomorrow, futures are already edging down. They're may be a sucker punch tomorrow.

What happened to Robin??

reply to post by kdog1982


Robin got overwhelmed - I/We miss you Robin=Eric/Winston

Time to come back to us you know

reply to post by Anmarie96


I understand.


No need to be overwhelmed,things happen and there is only so much one person can do.
Just let it be known that there are many in this battle and we are not alone.

www.texassharon.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Be patient,adding more.


usnews.msnbc.msn.com...

www.legislativegazette.com...://www.amillionfrackingletters.com


thetyee.ca...

The European Banks haven't crashed. I could make up excuses. But I won't.
Perry at the moment looks like a boob.
So. I'm going to continue to shut up for awhile.

I'm still not counting Perry out. And the banks still could crash. But for the moment, I'm wrong.

Fracking on the other hand was the right call. No doubts about that one.

Maybe this goes to show that physics is more predictable than humans.

I shouldn't have started writing. 'Cause now I want to rant. I suppose this is better than driving my father nuts. I'm visiting him. Tonight, I went goofy describing to him how stupid people can be. I'm not talking about regular stupid folk. I like them. They aren't pretending to know what they don't know. It's the stupid "experts".

The following is stupid...
From the Discovery and Propoganda Channel website...

"As for what's ultimately beneath the weather rut we're in, climate change is a tempting target but global warming is not necessarily to blame. In fact, a warmer world would cause warmer oceans, Weber said -- and an opposite pattern from what we're seeing. Other theories include low solar activity and melting Arctic ice."

"a warmer would would cause warmer oceans," Duh. No we would not expect warmer oceans from global warming. Not during the first phase. THE MELTING. Which is what we are experiencing at the moment. Every glacial "expert" is alarmed by the rate. And the caps are thinning and are shrinking in area. The first outcome of a warming earth is melting ice. This cold, fresh, dense water will sink and collect in the deep. We've had two strong La Ninas. Why? Because of the melting ice stupid. It's not a theory. It's what's actually happening and it is exactly what is to be expected. The ocean waters won't warm until the ice caps are mostly melted. We've still got glaciers to melt, which means for the foreseeable future, we will have oceans with extreme zones. The hotter waters will get hotter, and the cold zone's, like La Nina, will become colder and stronger. Once the ice is gone, the the La Ninas will diminish. Duh.

They gave this guy a degree.

I've discovered giant old volcanoes. I discovered how the moon was formed. And, I've even unravelled the mystery of Soddom and Gammorah. But here I sit and lanquish like a flower growing from a crack in an airplane graveyard tarmac. Discovery Channel, you're missing some very big discoveries. Oh well, I suppose I have self-satifaction in knowing that I have secret knowledge. Funny thing. I can't keep a secret. I blab and blab. If you want a secret kept, tell a person know one listens to or believes.

news.discovery.com...

For almost twenty years, I've been ranting about Global Warming. Yesterday, I made a statement. I was in Nigara, and it was 10c on January 11. It's the winter with a winter.

www.theweathernetwork.com...

Please share your thoughts on this one, my friend.

Source - Yahoo News - Project to pour water in volcano to make power.

reply to post by UtahRosebud


I posted the story on Quake Watch the other day. I think it's stupid. Even the developers know there's a risk for quakes. Muzzy said that they do it in New Zealand with few problems. But, in other parts of the world, they've caused quakes. No system is like another. Every one unique. Therefore, the risks are impossible to calculate. It's gambling. Pure and simple. How do they know they won't wake up the volcano? Or, set off regional quakes? The answer is they don't know.

The risks are probably not very great. But it sets a precident and others will use the method elsewhere. The practice will spread if it is economical. Meaning, it will become common if companies can find big subsidies, and eagar investors.

"it's the profits, stupid"

and by stupid I don't mean you. just to clarify. it's just that when trying to figure out what's next, "follow the money". it's true- all of the time.

Oh my god. I can't read anymore. I mean, I have lost intelligence. Me dumb. I can't write. I'm forgetting things.

I was wrong about Perry. I've said I'm glad when I'm wrong. In this case, it means there is no absolute control. The simple answer is: back pain pills. + a beer or two. I was right about where the money was going, it's now in Newt's pocket. Back when Newt's campaign resigned, I found his newest wife's photo and it is my computer's background. I did it to freak out my eldest son. Now it's freaking out me. I put my logictech shortcut icons on her eyeballs. When the computer shuts down, it's really unnerving.

I am also unnerved about Russelville. That quake was just down the road.

"What's worse than not getting what you want?
Getting what you want."

My eyes are ringing. He heheheh. I mean, my ears are ringing. It's gone now. I'll make it through the day.

One last stupid thought. I've said it before. So, I guess I'm repeating. Iran will become hot. They've got to drive up the price of oil.

Nigeria is hot. Coincidence.

I need to eat an apple today. And get some cod liver oil.

Last night, I watched a doc on Chernobyl. Today, Russellville's siesmo watchers got to look at something moving in the neighbourhood. Thankfully, I believe in coincidences. If I didn't- I'd be totally crazy.