UPDATE YOUR FILES: No Barbara Olson Phone Call - It was a LIE!

reply to post by skeptic_al


I don't think it would. I know I checked the signal the last time I was on a plane when we were climbing out right after take off. But I could not get one. Then i got the great Idea to watch the plane on G.P.S. to see how fast we were going. But could not even get a signal for that either.

Originally posted by xyankee
reply to post by skeptic_al

 

I don't think it would. I know I checked the signal the last time I was on a plane when we were climbing out right after take off. But I could not get one. Then i got the great Idea to watch the plane on G.P.S. to see how fast we were going. But could not even get a signal for that either.

Back in dem ol' days, twas analog mainly, switching over to digital
Analog in those days was far superior to Digital, with reservations.
Worked better with low signals, in more places and further from the
towers.

But after reading the technical aspects of how stuff works, it would
seem highly unlikly it would work. And there is no way to prove it
now, analog is gone forever.

reply to post by xyankee


A friend tried this several times within a a few weeks back in 2008. They could get a signal and make a call while the plane was climbing, right after take off. And then repeated the process another 2 times with success, while still climbing. They called, someone would answer, and then they would hangup and try again right away. And the 4th time, and only 2-3 minutes into the flight, if that, the cell-phone would no longer get a signal. They said about 10,000 feet or so, give or take, but the plane was still climbing they said.

And then for the entire length of the flight, no signal was available and they even said it drained their cell phone quickly because it kept searching for a tower, but couldn't get a handshake.

And this was in 2008.

They made a huge mistake by saying cell-phones. And then when they realized their error, they changed it to Air-phones. And if everyone will remember, we need not ever have this debate again whether the passengers were really using air-phones. Cell phones will not operate at those speeds and any high altitude. I believe this has been reasonably established. So then, what about this?

Original Source:

# Flight 93

* calls to family members and friends: at least thirteen passengers made more than 30 phone calls, most of them short and some repeated, where at least some were reportedly made from cell phones. 12
* the last call: At 9:58, a frantic passenger called from a bathroom to report an explosion and smoke. The tape of this 911 call was seized by the FBI. The 911 operator who took the call, Glenn Cramer, was told by the FBI not to discuss the call.

What will the argument now comedown to? Whether or not they had air-phones in the Airplanes bathroom? I think we all know the answer to that question already.

Why did the FBI tell Cramer not to discuss this call? I think the question is rhetorical. It answers itself, if you will pardon the pun.

Cheers-
Phil






[edit on 6-4-2010 by Phil Jayhan]

Originally posted by skeptic_al
reply to post by GoldenFleece

 

Perhaps you can enlighten us how in broad daylight and not obscured
by any smoke that nodbody noticed after the event somebody moving debris
ONTO the Lawn.

Oh really? Who are these sneaky-looking characters? Are they removing evidence or are they planting it? In any case, why have they taken it upon themselves to disturb a crime scene before it's even been investigated?

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reply to post by GoldenFleece


Obviously FBI, the Black Suits and all, Guess they only wear Black Sunnies
Indoors.

So you found the smallest pieces to show, convient.

There were bigger pieces. I guess because there was no visible pickup
truck proves the Government has a Alien Cloak of Invisibility Dude.

No doubt about it, they were looking for a good place to set the junk
down.

As for the Crime Scene, well they are FBI and on Government Property.
I don't think the County Sheriff would have any Jurisdiction there.

reply to post by GoldenFleece


These guys must have been really tired after carrying all that other
junk out in the Background.

thank you spikey ok here is another thing i dont get why do they just throw normal crashes on the net unedited and yet this one is edited and papers are blocked out in areas and there are some pages missing in that report im sure of i can't back it up right now but i am working on it i have reveiwed the call records and some other things but still somethings are still missing

how did these people make calls becuase reportedly the air phones were offline and cellphones don't get service when you get about 5000 feet offf the ground so how were these calls made? i want to see the records of these calls that were made is there any evidence of them?

reply to post by killer4281


There is evidence against them. But none for them. It took me a few minutes to find, it was in the first page of this post; Here are the documents. Make sure you copy the document.

Cheers-
Phil

reply to post by Phil Jayhan


there ar alot of things that have been blocked out i have seen these against but none for them i guess my question really is why all the blocks and what are the blocks hiding is there anything under the blocks that could do some real damage?i think so i mean why else block out things and im sure there are many pages missing that can so called "not be found" by the F.B.I who doesn't lose anything but just merely keeps secrets

reply to post by skeptic_al

How is it "obvious" that they're FBI agents? Could be anyone.

And who says they carried all the junk in the background?

Anyway, I'll let Don Rumsfeld tell you what really happened:

"Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building [Pentagon] and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center."

www.defenselink.mil...


[edit on 4/7/2010 by GoldenFleece]

reply to post by GoldenFleece


good point what if it is C.I.A either way it doesn't really matter who they are it looks like they are either planting or removing peices of a crime scene but honestly who are those people in the picture is there anyway to identify which orginaztion if any they belong to?

[edit on 7-4-2010 by killer4281]

9-11 crash victim Barbara Olson arrested in Europe
Tom Flocco.com – September 22, 2005

French and American intelligence agents have arrested Barbara Olson, the wife of a former Bush administration official, a few days ago on the Polish-Austrian border, according to agents close to and with knowledge of the incident.

The alleged 9.11 Pentagon crash victim was found to be in possession of millions in fake interbank Italian lyra currency, according to the agents.

Olson was also reportedly in possession of a fraudulent Vatican passport and was held on charges of counterfeiting.

The former Fox News TV commentator and Independent Women's Forum activist was said to have called her husband Theodore Olson from her plane to seek help in countering hijackers who had allegedly taken over American flight 77 which the Bush administration said was crashed into the Pentagon – although the impact only left an opening approximately 16 feet across.

Ted Olson is the former Bush 43 Solicitor General who had previously argued the President's legal interests in the controversial Bush-Gore 2000 election recount case before the U.S. Supreme Court.

Mrs. Olson's alleged cell phone call to her husband was employed by the administration and the 9.11 Commission as partial proof that American 77 crashed into the Pentagon, despite physical evidence to the contrary.

The Pentagon crash evidence was ignored and obstructed by both the Commission and previously by the Joint Congressional Intelligence Committee in its own separate probe.

Due to the ongoing sensitive nature of the arrest, investigation and questioning, one source who declined to be named for this story, told TomFlocco.com that Olson's call to her husband was a fraud and that another projectile impacted the Pentagon other than Olson's plane.

The agents were said to have closed in to arrest the former television pundit because the evidence of counterfeiting and passport violations was obvious and that the timing was right.

According to the agents, Barbara Olson is reportedly considered to be a conspirator to the obstruction of justice in the mass murders of 3,000 individuals on September 11, 2001 in the attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the alleged crash in southwestern Pennsylvania.

Olson's arrest and potential appearance at trial in the United States would undoubtedly have a profound impact upon current "Able Danger" hearings in the Senate and past probes by both the Joint Congressional Intelligence Committee and the 9.11 Commission.

reply to post by Donny 4 million

Donny, be careful with that one. I'm pretty sure it's a hoax. For one thing, Poland and Austria don't share a border...

good point golden fleece and besides some of those charges had to be trumped up mainly because if it were true how did she have access to that stuff and why wasnt her husband also arested as a co conspiritor?

reply to post by Donny 4 million


I spoke with Tom Flocco a few weeks back to share some things and ask him about that as well, and he basically said that he does the best he can with the sources he has. Sometimes he makes mistakes. Like we all do. I have known him for a few years and would say Tom Flocco is exceptionally honest. That's what I know and can add to this data stream.

Cheers-
Phil

So who here thinks that Barbara Olson has a near identical look to Lady Evelyn Booth? to get it back on topic.,

Perhaps Lady Evelyn Booth is 6'4" and Barbara Olson was only 5'7" -
But have seen pictures where they look different heights but is indeterminate because we don't know the shoes or the platforms they were standing on. The new wedding photo's of Lady Evelyn Booth seem to show her in the right ballpark as Barbara Olson for height.



[edit on 7-4-2010 by Phil Jayhan]

they do look very similar but in the intrest of the topic at hand barbra has obviously been discredited and the phone calls from the plane have been discredited and the cell phones too so what is left on this topic? to either prove or disprove?

Originally posted by GoldenFleece
reply to post by Donny 4 million

 

Donny, be careful with that one. I'm pretty sure it's a hoax. For one thing, Poland and Austria don't share a border...

Ah well, sometimes it is good to just be the messenger.
I know there is some inaccuracy but the meat of it is entirely possible.
look at all the other 911 stuff that has been swept under the rug.
Maybe some de bunker could prove she was never arrested.
I wouldn't care if she had yen in her bra and was caught on the border of China and India.

reply to post by Phil Jayhan


I find Tom Flocco to be very sincere and in depth.
We all know about "Deep Throat" eh!
Northwoods was covered up for how long???

Originally posted by GoldenFleece
reply to post by skeptic_al

 

How is it "obvious" that they're FBI agents? Could be anyone.

And who says they carried all the junk in the background?

Anyway, I'll let Don Rumsfeld tell you what really happened:

"Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building [Pentagon] and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center."

www.defenselink.mil...


[edit on 4/7/2010 by GoldenFleece]

How do I know their FBI?

I meerly applied the same 911 Truther algorithm that is was Obvious
explosives were used at WTC