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reply to post by Cthulhus Messenger


Perhaps they were just callous, uncaring psychopaths?

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reply to post by Kram09


Maybe here in the US carrying around weapons would make you physcopath but not there, that's a completely different place where your life could be threatened at any moment, weapons are almost always needed.

The soldiers were just triggerhappy and wanted to shoot something, that's it.

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reply to post by Cthulhus Messenger


Yes and they were callous and uncaring.

reply to post by Kram09


How so? They were sitting there talking with weapons, do you honestly think that's a good enough reason to be shot and killed?

reply to post by Cthulhus Messenger


In future when they want so badly to shoot something, they will shoot a tree or a wall, or even better themselves.

reply to post by Cthulhus Messenger


I'm not sure, but I think we have our wires crossed.

I was referring to the people in the chopper.

Not the group of men on the ground.

reply to post by Kram09


Do you really think shooting a wall or a tree give them the excitement or thrill they get from shooting another human being and seeing them run around in fear? No, not even close. They're animals that just wanted to see another being suffer for their own pleasure. They should be punished but sadly 99% of americans will never know about this and even if they do, they won't care.

To me Journalists and SOME soldiers... not all... show me the difference?
I remember the death of Princess Diana......Journo's ARE SCUM!! hovering over her like vultures not letting the ambulance men through to deal with her injuries.
THEY MAKE ME SICK. Atleast the Soldiers are held to account UNLIKE the press.


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Originally posted by Kram09
Thank you for acting like the typical "I've been or was in the armed forces therefore I know everything" type of user of ATS.

Probably know a bit more than you, Gus.

Originally posted by Kram09
The shooting of the van was "a bit iffy?"

It wasn't iffy, it was outrageous.

Thanks for actually taking the time and reading my entire post, or are you just waiting for your turn to write. I guess you missed the part about a battle is more than just one dimensional. This was taken in 2007 and insurgents were known to have used civilian vehicles for combat.

So, you might want to step back with your "outrage".

Originally posted by Kram09
How could that apache possibly pick out the word press if he was wearing a vest, it can't even pick out whether the men were holding weapons.

How far out was that chopper?

Really? Funny, I saw at least one guy with an AK. Guess you missed that.

And the Press PPE is bright blue with the word "PRESS" in white. Can't miss it, if they had been wearing it.

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Totally off topic, but I thought a journalist on the scene tried to give first aid or something. I don't know, whatever, that might be wrong.

Also in reply to the other post, I knew they wouldn't get a thrill from shooting a wall or a tree. Maybe they could do themselves a favour and just shoot themselves.

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There's a huge difference between the journalists that were involved in the death of Princess Diana and this situation. When princess Diana was killed the journalists were chasing her in their cars, if you were in Iraq and there was a gunfight you wouldn't chase the people invovled, you would go for cover. Journalists are scum in countries with freedom without restrictions but here the journalists have to show caution or they could end up dying.

Originally posted by Kram09
In future when they want so badly to shoot something, they will shoot a tree or a wall, or even better themselves.

"Or even better themselves". Wow, I just love ATS. Hoping someone commits suicide.

lame.

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I agree with you, if the Journalists had been wearing their vests this never would have happened, but the soldiers were also out of line and triggerhappy and never should have shot at them unless they were being hostile towards the Helicopter.

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Okay, I apologise, I take back the comment about the soldiers killing themselves.

However what makes you think you know more than me?

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Please tell me at what time mark you saw the AK?

Originally posted by Cthulhus Messenger
I agree with you, if the Journalists had been wearing their vests this never would have happened, but the soldiers were also out of line and triggerhappy and never should have shot at them unless they were being hostile towards the Helicopter.

Please go back and read a post I made here this morning. This area where they were at wasn't some 'burb, but a slum that was full of insurgents, and US troops had been in contact just before this happened.

Originally posted by Cthulhus Messenger
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There's a huge difference between the journalists that were involved in the death of Princess Diana and this situation. When princess Diana was killed the journalists were chasing her in their cars, if you were in Iraq and there was a gunfight you wouldn't chase the people invovled, you would go for cover. Journalists are scum in countries with freedom without restrictions but here the journalists have to show caution or they could end up dying.

If this was the case why did the guy in the minivan drive into a warzone with his children on board? And the press were chasing a story in Princess Diana's case...show me what the Rueters Press were doing differently ...were they not after a story?
Yes I know where they were and it seemed that a fight further down the street was ongoing presumably where the Journo was pointing his Camera. A dangerous past time reporting in a skirmish.

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I apologize, I haven't read the entire thread, 75 pages of arguments like ours seems less than appealing right now. I'm misinformed and making assumptions. Also, me being 16 I don't fully understand the stress and mindset these soldiers had when this took place. Could you tell me the page number of your post so I can go and read it? Thanks.

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Maybe, the people in the van had witnessed the shooting and decided that the best course of action was to go help them. There's little time, if any, to think of weather or not you should bring your children with you and the thought probably never crossed their mind. The people picking them up also assumed that the fighting was over and it would be safe to get in, pick up the wounded, and get out.

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You said you saw at least one guy with an AK.

Now I'll ask again. At what time mark did you see this?