The Apple iPad Conspiracy

Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by Faiol

 

in theory, one ipad and the e versions of the text books will, after 4 years of college, cost less.

plus you can spin the pictures while studying. that's always fun

Couldn't they just use the kindle and spend even less though?

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[edit on 4-4-2010 by ventian]

Originally posted by ventian

Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by Faiol

 

in theory, one ipad and the e versions of the text books will, after 4 years of college, cost less.

plus you can spin the pictures while studying. that's always fun

Couldn't they just use the kindle and spend even less though?

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[edit on 4-4-2010 by ventian]

The kindle dx is not much less though, plus you know the students want to show of there ipads.

I think most of the people buying the IPAD, will stop using at after 5 days and regret they ever gave Apple their money for it.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


I think you have it spot on:

It's a content-consumption device... and when you focus on it from that point of view, it's much more possible to see the potential it represents.

And I think that’s why they (Apple) are saying a Netbook replacement because many (not all) people use a Netbook to sit on the sofa and read the web, do their email, view some pics etc. And in that context it will change things. Netflix is now on it too which will be great for movies.

Do I need USB? Um, me personally no - what do I use USB for ? Nothing - not even for a thumb drive now as I use drop.io, dropbox etc. USB storage devices are like floppy disks to me and many of my colleagues. Do I want multi-tasking? Not right now - I am happy with push-notification but there will be times I may want it in the future (which is why it’s coming in OS4 - Shhh). The main limitation I see at the moment is printing (which I do over wifi) - but I am sure that will get integrated in soon.

If you want to be doing Photoshop etc. then an iPad is not really for you. For content then it’s going to be lovely (and as someone mentioned in its current LCD form it is a bit heavy on the eye for eBooks, but if they switch to OLED one day or similar then it will be simply stunning).

P.S. - for the person that was worried about having to convert all their PDFs to ePub to view on the iPad... not true, you can view your PDFs just fine natively, or using some lovely PDF App viewers if you want to add lots of cool annotation and note taking features.

The kindle dx is not much less though, plus you know the students want to show of there ipads.

Which is exactly why this thing will be so popular amongst the users. It all comes down to the illusion of being "cool" regardless of price or performance. Mac OS has some great software for students, but this ipad brings nothing relevant that can't be gotten anywhere else except for fashion. Shirts from Wal-mart and old navy are made the same way but one cost more and is a fashion statement that makes you "hip".

Originally posted by Raabjorn
I think most of the people buying the IPAD, will stop using at after 5 days and regret they ever gave Apple their money for it.

Exactly. As I said before, the iPad and nothing more than a giant iTouch/iPhone with a couple new features; totally not worth getting unless it ties into job related use.

reply to post by lafcadio

I'm a recording artist with a home studio and I also dabble in digital art.
I buy Mac because they work so transparently and do exactly what they're supposed to do without a ton of programs running in the background eating up processing power and I NEVER have to worry about viruses or virus protection, or those irritating McAfee updates, as well as the stability of the operating system.
I don't think about coolness i think about friendly usability. That's the only lifestyle choice I personally make when buying one. I've owned several PCs and several Macs and the Macs win every category hands down for me personally.

Hey Faiol

Of course the iPad doesn't have all the necessary features that you pointed out, but that isn't the point Mr. Man.

Its about early market penetration even if that market technically doesn't exist yet, or at least not for most of you.

Everybody said whats the point of iPod, what's the point of iTunes, who needs a smart phone...and guess what Mr. Man, they're all playing catch-up.

Oh you'll be getting a tablet or some crappy netbook, and you'll like it...so you might as well get the prettiest of the bunch, but I'd wait until all the bugs are out of it.

Besides, who do you work for Faiol, I've never seen someone work so hard trying to play down an actual product in a conspiracy forum. Most of these folks aren't even aware of what's coming down the pipe for them... too bad...but I still think they're dragging their feet a bit.

the ipad is only useful as a touchscreen controller for music, as the apps for it already replace a 2,000 dollar piece of music equipment, however, aside from that, it's pretty useless.


I think when people think of Microsoft and Apple, they need to remember that steve jobs is making apple products and bill gates is spending billions on research for diseases. nuff said, apple geeks go home.

reply to post by CAPT PROTON


how can you possibly defend an overpriced under developed piece of crap?

I Love Apple Products & Computers mostly, I own a Custom Macbook Pro for all my needs & heavy Music Production, not going to whine about PC V Mac, but I never use my PC anymore, I Don't own a macbook pro because it's hip to have one..I own one because its the better/most stable choice for Recording/Producing Music on. & mostly how quiet it is, no whirring Fan noises on my Professional recordings.

I Love my Ipod Touch for Entertainment on the go!

The Ipad is just an over sized Ipod touch, Realllly should not be advertised as anything more!!!!! Is it worth the money?? Maybe if you travel a lot and Like to be entertained. certainly more enjoyable than an Ipod & a lot of fun to use.

Its not a Computer replacement by any stretch of the imagination. its a portable entertainment device.

Can't say It excites me much.....

I could have been a WHOLE lot better!!!!! like a tablet version of the macbook......

but its not.

[edit on 4-4-2010 by TrentReznor]

Originally posted by johnny2127

Originally posted by SpectreDC

Originally posted by johnny2127

Originally posted by SpectreDC
reply to post by johnny2127

 

YOU PAID 600 DOLLARS FOR AN IPOD TOUCH YOUR OPINION IS NULL AND VOID.


[edit on 4-4-2010 by SpectreDC]

A) Don't tell other people how to spend their money.

B) You don't own one, so you don't know what you are talking about concerning an iPad.

C) Innovation requires people to think outside the box my friend. So while you call me a drone, you are the one trying to fit the iPad into one of your preconceived notions. Its a new product category my friend. Don't believe me, thats fine. But there is a reason innovators and inventors don't think like you and aren't as closed-minded as you appear to be

A. When did I say how to spend your money? I said it was a waste of money. I never told you how to spend it, merely I believe you spent it unwisely. That is not a dictation in how one must spend their money.

B. How do you know I don't own one? Furthermore, considering the amount of buzz, the fact that the specs and abilities have been out for a while, and the fact that I actually have used one because I associate with individuals who have been given one free of charge due to their media connections, I think my opinion does have some credence. I used to be heading into the computer world as a career path; I understand technology very well. I know what the specs mean and what the thing is capable of. It's lacking many things it simply shouldn't be lacking.

C. If you had read what I said, which is increasingly becoming evident you haven't, you would have read that I did say this was an innovation but an innovation that came out too early. First off this is only innovative because it is the first thing of its kind on the market. This tech has been around for a while, just not for wide application. The iPad is an attempt to make it widely applicable, and it can be, but it's simply lacking too many things it should have for it to be truly useful outside of gimmicks. It needs more stuff. No USB? No Flash? No multitasking? No full OS?

If I could listen to music while reading a book with this thing, I wouldn't be saying this. But you can't! I might as well set at home, read a book at home, and listen to music on my computers stereo system. All it is, is a larger iPod Touch with a few free apps. That's it.



The BIGGEST problem with it though, beyond everything else, which makes it not only a bad buy but a foolish buy, is that the battery can not be replaced. It is built in. What was the last think Apple did that had this same problem? It was called the MacBook Air. And it wasn't that popular or successful.

Are you happy with your 600$ paper weight? Will you be happy when the paper weight doesn't turn on any more and you need to buy a brand new one?

Additionally, looking at tech specs does not tell you how the device is going to work or how it will fit into your everyday life. Sad thing is, you'll be like most people that rip on it now..... you'll rip on it, then play with a friends, and then you'll end up being one of its biggest supporters. This is a new product category, not an old one. Most of this item is purely about media and content consumption. Its all your books, magazines, email, internet, movies, tv shows, etc, all bundled into one device the size of a magazine. If you want a real keyboard you can buy one.

Sincerely, the problem is most of you are failing to think outside the box. You are failing to see the innovation that this is because you haven't put your hands on one and spent a few hours playing with it. This device is amazing, and it the first version of it, both in terms of software and hardware. As they update software and apps, most of you doubters will turn into proponents, mark my words.

And again you choose to focus on my very strong criticism of the iPad, without considering the context which is explained later in the post and my perspective on the future of such devices and how it is in fact an innovation.

But I appreciate you neglecting to at all consider the whole perspective and just a part of it. You're just proving that for your little belief that there are so many haters (and rightly so), there are just as many who will blindly defend it and discount any negatives that exist for it.

Unlike you, I've weighed the pros and the cons. And the cons, with everything considering the current specs, cost and abilities, far out weigh the pros. The cons can be fixed later on, the surely will be. In fact I will likely get one when the cons start disappearing. The problem is that many of these cons can not be replaced if one buys the first model. You can't just send your iPad to Apple to get a USB, HDMI, Flash, removable batteries, a camera and a proper OS. But if you believe a device with none of those is worth having just because you can have movies, music, media access and books on it (OH HEY, A LAPTOP CAN DO ALL THAT AND IT HAS THE THINGS THE IPAD DOESN'T!) It's a rather ridiculous device that does not justify the cost.

I expect most of this to not be read by the way.

I'll never be buying apple products ever again.

Apple as far as software and applications are sickeningly prude.

Also itunes refuses to sync mp3's I've bought from amazon.com (since amazon is cheaper.)

Apple in my opinion monopolizes worse than microsoft, as apple enhances their products every few months so they can continue selling their overpriced junk.

Down with apple

[edit on 4-4-2010 by Scarcer]

reply to post by andy1033



I am not saying it isn't useful... just not for the medical field, especially for viewing images as his post & image suggested.

JT

reply to post by SpectreDC


You have a remarkable way of not responding to what I say to you, and then regurgitating the same things over and over again.

Computers are being corporationalized (Yes, I did just make that word up). They are made so that you can't download homemade games, homemade programs, and made so you have to download them through a store. Things like this should be kept to a small device, and NEVER made into a desktop interface. I don't want an app store for a desktop computer. I want my free, open source programs. I want to be able to program in any language, and not just one that is made by the company who owns the desktop.

Originally posted by geekgod
The iPad is fantastic. Ever since I picked one up I have been able to spend countless time on this site amongst many others without needing to sit at a computer. In fact this message is being typed on one and I am nowhere near a computer.

The GUI on the iPad is fantastic and allows for quick navigation and just feels natural.

Lack of multitasking does not affect me much as most applications remember the state they where in when you exit an app and relaunch. For example safari remembers all your open tabs and even where you where scrolled to on a page.

Yes the price is a bit high but this is a first generation product and the price will drop more over time.

The device is amazing.. Try one!

Edit: minor spelling fixes


Ps: no I do not work for apple - just a computer geek at large.


[edit on 4-4-2010 by geekgod]

[edit on 4-4-2010 by geekgod]

How do you go viewing Video's on this site? Is it good quality? Load Fast? Sound Good?

Oh, Hang on, Did you say iPad? Disregard those questions, sorry...

I remember people like this saying the iPhone would flop because its just a phone with a iPod thrown on it and Apple never phones. How did those predictions turn out for you people? Oh I am sure most would have selective memory and say they actually predicted the iPhones would be very successful. Of course now every phone maker out there is churning out iPhone wannabe's and clones. LOL. People never cease to amaze me. So when these iPad's are a new product area and it revolutionizes media, those of you that rip on them now can also say 'I knew it!' regardless of what you think now.

I won't be replacing my large capable 17" screen Inspiron laptop for an iCant iPad for the same reasons I won't be trading in my Dodge Ram for a Toyota Prius.

Originally posted by johnny2127
I remember people like this saying the iPhone would flop because its just a phone with a iPod thrown on it and Apple never phones. How did those predictions turn out for you people? Oh I am sure most would have selective memory and say they actually predicted the iPhones would be very successful. Of course now every phone maker out there is churning out iPhone wannabe's and clones. LOL. People never cease to amaze me. So when these iPad's are a new product area and it revolutionizes media, those of you that rip on them now can also say 'I knew it!' regardless of what you think now.

I've said somewhere on this forum that I have an ASUS 3G NetBook with SSD.

If I were to compare this, Side by side with the iPad, How would the iPad compare?

Let's see. Asus>

USB Ports, YES.
3G Support with any carrier. Just change simcard. YES
WiFi.. YES
Bluetooth. YES
VGA Support.. YES
Adobe Flash Support.. YES (Software Related, no Special Apps Required)
Touchscreen Support.. NO
Millions of Apps.. Yes
Support for just about everything on the NET.. Of Course, Yes.

Cost $199.00 AU

Let's See: iPad>

Touchscreen Yes
Vga Support.. Yes

Anything Else? Nope. A Big Fat Nope.

And to get all this, Price? $899.00 AU Approx..

The size of the little Asus is comparable to the iPad. The iPad is thinner and maybe a little lighter and of course the Asus has a Keyboard.

The iPad probably will probably benefit from the use of an external Keyboard, anyway?

[edit on 4-4-2010 by Damian-007]