A lesson on Britian for AMERICANS

I'm making a thread of it!!!

Now why would Americans think the English might have a chip on their shoulders?

I understand your sentiments however, most Americans are woefully ignorant of not only English history but American and World history as well.

This type of pedagogic rant teaches little though.

[edit on 5-4-2010 by Asktheanimals]

Of course this thread is not aimed at every american out there.

Its just over my time on ATS in one thread in particular an american says.

"This happened in Scotland right? So why are people saying in happened in the UK?"

You know who you are who said this

Well Americans would be speaking French if we didn't win the Battle of Quebec and razed the city to the ground.

The British invasion of Quebec


And just to add insult to the French

Originally posted by DISRAELI

Originally posted by jimmyx


uhmm...there are alot of people here in the US, that would like england to annex texas and have it be a part of great britian...they actually have big signs in that state that announce "PLEASE DO NOT ENTER CARRYING FIREARMS"

Excellent- change of subject. Would any Texans like to comment on whether they would rather have an English connection or a Yankee connection?

After the slapstick manner in which the first page of this thread was conducted (and i have to say, you had the funniest post on that page), i would vote for a "yankee" connection.

However, being a true Texan, i think we are better off not being connected to anyone.

reply to post by Haydn_17


"And just to add insult to the French ."

It's debatable that you're "insulting" the French.

In my limited American view of world history, the Quebecois were already a separate culture. Colonists abandoned by thier empire, left to face the military might of another. While commanded by French military( overly confident of the protections offered by the river and the cliffs), their militia was largely composed of untrained townsfolk desperate to defend their homes. Their empires abandonment has left as much animosity for the French as the British that ruled them.


Of course, I could I be imagining a bias. I could judge better were that video subtitled in French.

reply to post by 23refugee


Its only friendly, i dont actually want to insult INSULT them if you get what i mean

reply to post by Haydn_17


Hi!

So how come you don't know how to spell 'Britain' properly?

Peace!

reply to post by The Wave


Old laptop had sticky keys, and i type extremely fast as i had to go out and meet someone.

I hope my bad spelling didn't hurt anyones feelings.

reply to post by Haydn_17


Hi!

So I guess you weren't all that worried about making your point - typing fast and going out?

Seems to be the way to-day - slapdash, thoughless and inconsiderate.

Thankfully I don't live in Britian... :-)

Peace!

reply to post by The Wave


Nope i started the thread out with the intention to do it well and check it over but half way through i had to leave immediatly, thats why i came back at page 4 or 5 and put an extremely long list of dates.

But i suppose you didnt read past post 1 did you?

reply to post by Haydn_17


Of course. Sarcasm aside, I didn't feel that was an INSULT at all, hence the quotation marks.

I was just regurgitating some information( opinion perhaps) gleaned during a special Cirque du Soliel performance honoring the 400th anniversary of Quebec City. I could certainly have fallen for a bit of mesmerizing and colorful propaganda.

On another point, I feel it's our refusal of the U and our embracing of the Z that seperates us from the French, as well as the British.

reply to post by stumason


I am sorry to come across as one pretending to know it all when I don't, or as an “USA is number one chanter.” I watched the Rugby World Cup before and I am not trying to discount that they are supreme overall athletes. Now I do not know all the positions in rugby, even though I played it for two seasons between basketball and football/soccer. We also didn't know all the rules we just considered it a fun American football type game similar to smear-the-queer (everyone vs. the man with the ball) with teams.

However, if you wanted to say the majority of rugby players are better overall athletes in speed/strength/endurance than the majority of NFL players, I would not put up a fight. But if you were to pick one category such as speed or strength, I feel the rugby players could not out duel the NFL players. Rugby players are built for better overall attributes.

A lot of the fastest NFL players were also collegiate sprinters, some were also Olympic sprinters. NFL players speed is measured in a 40yd/36.5m dash. This is used to measure their explosiveness out of the gate or when they receive the ball. Fast in the 40yd is considered to be 4.2 - 4.3 seconds and every year a few players coming from college to the NFL run a 4.2* something. Usain Bolt's 40yd in his world record 100m time was estimated to be around 4.1-4.3 seconds. The NFL’s Chris Johnson ran a 4.24 and is considered the best quickest player. There are other fast players who don’t play as much.

wiki.answers.com...

How is a rugby player's speed measured and who is the fastest?


NFL player's strength is measured in the bench press and the squat lift. Can the strongest rugby players bench press over 600lbs/272kgs? Larry Allen benched 700lbs/317kgs.

www.criticalbench.com...

How is a rugby player's strength measured and who is the strongest?


Who were the rugby players that switched to the NFL? Anyone notable?


I also have another question about Man. United as I don't get to talk with any real English people about football. Do a lot of English people support the Red Knight's attempt to oust the Glazers, the American owners? Is this just because of the large debt of the team now owns? Man U. is one of the biggest and best known clubs in the world and I think very little of that has to do with the American owner. I believe they were very good well before the takeover because of Beckham in his prime and Ferguson as their manager.

I think Liverpool is in a similar situation with American owners and debt, although I have not heard anything new in some time. I don't know why our overseas owners are allowed to take on such large debts to buy a club. In the States, I don't think any team in any sport is bought on such large debt. Or, at least it is never mentioned if they do.

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reply to post by Haydn_17


Hi!

I sure did - that's why I picked up on your slovenly post. :-)

Peace!

reply to post by Haydn_17


Hi!

I sure did - that's why I picked up on your slovenly post. :-)

Peace!

Ha haa, I was thinking of posting a similar thread a while back but thought not too... But yeah, Id like to point out that some people I talk to on oter sites dont know where Wales is, and just think its some small part of England.
Also there mostly familiar with Wales because of Princess Diana.

Same with Scotland-
A lot of people only know about that due to the Lochness Monster.

But anyway, this can work both ways, there's a lot I dont know about America. But then again, I know its a diffrent country compared to Canada but its also under the rule of Mexico...

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by DISRAELI

 

when i went travelling, i met quite a lot of Americans and Camadians who actually thought we have "Tea time", they thought the whole nation stops for a cup of tea at 4pm. I had to explain that people drink tea at all hours of the day here.

No tea time? Now that's disappointing.

[edit on 093030p://bTuesday2010 by Stormdancer777]

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

No tea time? Now that's disappointing.

This song, from about 1960, sums it up;

"I like a nice cup of tea in the morning-
Just to start the day, you see-
And at half past eleven
My idea of heaven
Is a nice cup of tea.
I like a nice cup of tea with my dinner
And a nice cup of tea with my "tea".
Then at half past ten at night,
Just to finish off- that's right!
Is a nice cup of tea."

The last couple of lines may not be quite right.

PS On reflection, this might have been an advertising jingle for a particular brand.




[edit on 6-4-2010 by DISRAELI]

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by DISRAELI

 

when i went travelling, i met quite a lot of Americans and Camadians who actually thought we have "Tea time", they thought the whole nation stops for a cup of tea at 4pm. I had to explain that people drink tea at all hours of the day here.

No tea time? Now that's disappointing.

[edit on 093030p://bTuesday2010 by Stormdancer777]

A cup of tea is one of the greatest British institutions there is. I'm a 6 cup a day man myself,milk no sugar, but a cup of tea can do wonders, everything can be sorted out by a cup of tea and few biscuits, Dark chocolate digestivs being my weapon of choice

reply to post by tooo many pills


Hey there, thought id pick up your NFL comment about how much a player can bench.
Anyway, to be honest I dont know how much a Prop-forward could bench because they dont boast about it. I suppose you could find the answer to that somewhere. But then theres the diversity of each player to take into account.
And Im sure its the same in American Football.
Strength, I cant really think of anyone ill throw a few names in though, via wiki link.
Ryan Jones-
en.wikipedia.org...

Jonah Lomu-
en.wikipedia.org...

Sebastien Chabal-
en.wikipedia.org...

The choices are to many and I could throw loads of names out, but we' never know their one rep max.


Now for speed, I suppose in rugby id look at a winger. And I suppose you could say there similar to a running back, minus the forward passess.
There speed and agility enables them to find gaps in apponents defence and score breakaway trys.
You got to take into account the build of each player again.
And the mesuring of speed again is usually over-looked and youd rather judge a winger/scrum half on their success in breaqking down apponents and getting on the score sheet, rather than braging that they can do a 40 in the 4s.
Throwing out a name id suppose, since im Welsh ill mention Shane Williams-

en.wikipedia.org...

He's past his prime now, but for explosive speed and his succsess in scoring trys is fantastic. Although he hasnt got the size of a forward.

Now with football, theres to much money in the game, but if you want the best you have to pay. Hence the daft transfer prices. I think there should be a cap, but then again, if you can get paid X amount there, you wouldnt play for peanuts here.
Look how much Real Madrid payed for Cristiano Ronaldo-

en.wikipedia.org...

But then again, is he worth it? If you had a dream team of current footballers he'd more than likely be in it. So in reality, if you want a player that good you have to pay. Plus he was bought from Man Utd, rivals and also a dominant football club.
The introduction of the glazers was a point where they where able to transfer thier dept to the club.
Alot of supporters didnt like this hence the formulation of FC Manchester who have started in the lower leauges and are gradually on their way up to beine in Leagues.
Im suppose your aware that the ManUtd fans currently ware yellow and green scarfs (as oposed to Red) as a form of protest.
A lot of premiership clubs live beyond their means and relie on gaining a place in European Leagues (Champions/Europa League) as a way of gaining revinue.
Liverpool are just in dire straights at the moment because the way the season is going it looks like they "may" not qualify to play in Europe, meaning less profit.
Other clubs with a history of bad dept are Wimbledon, Leeds, Newcastle(on their way up) and currently Portsmouth, who have had a stupid amount of owners this past few years and are the first ever premiership club to go into administration.

Back to NFL, I dont see any diffrences in size. THE ONLY DIFFRENCE IS THE GAME.

edit for spelling I can be botherd to correct..

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