A lesson on Britian for AMERICANS

Originally posted by SKUNK2
A Rugby player destroys American footbal players in speed, strength and endurance. Not forgetting the fact 99% of NFL have used performance enhancing drugs to get their size and weight, not forgetting the fact they are faggots who wear body armour. Britsh have grit americans have armour, says it all really.

99% of the NFL don't use performance enhancing drugs, some do I'm sure but not anywhere near that figure. In order for your figure to be correct you have to assume that 99% of the professional football players are willing to risk their entire multi-million dollar careers for it because it is illegal - and, yes, they do check. Nope... not anywhere close to that figure.

reply to post by stumason




I consider myself English.

I don't think there's anything wrong with considering yourself or calling yourself English as opposed to British.


I don't think that many Scots or Welsh refer to themselves as British.


I'm not a Proud Englishman, as I don't see anything to be proud of and I'm not keen on Nationalism anyway... It's a pointless mindset and just leads to hostility (see this thread for examples) and division.


But since I've been on this site, I've heard a few people say that It's racist or wrong to consider yourself English and Not British ... I think that's ridiculous.

I'm English.... I was born here and have lived here all my life.
I know I live in the Uk/Britain and whatever.... and as a tourist thing I guess it's great that we have this image of "Great Britain" but in reality, It's a very dated and unwanted thing In my opinion.

As both Scotland and Wales have been pushing for separation/Devolution for some times, Not to mention the trouble in Northern Ireland, I say it causes more resentment and problems than it's worth really.

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Your human too. Why anyone would realistically expect you guys to be any different than the rest of us is beyond me.
We are after all a fractious bunch of monkeys after all.

But, it is utterly hillarious the turn it took from the OP's dersive "bloody yanks" bs into more of a madcap circus of British and company bickering. Reminds me of a Monty Python skit.

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Originally posted by Janky Red
Goolly, u made Amerikans sound lik self adsorbs apes...

Why don't u Britash people get in yer little boats, sail off into yer precious paficic ocean and drowned

I shall certainly consider it. Or at least i will as soon as i stop laughing.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by executioner

 

Your human too. Why anyone would realistically expect you guys to be any different than the rest of us is beyond me.
We are after all a fractious bunch of monkeys after all.

But, it is utterly hillarious the turn it took from the OP's dersive "bloody yanks" bs into more of a madcap circus of British and company bickering. Reminds me of a Monty Python skit.

[edit on 4-4-2010 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]

Yes, but the best bits of this thread are the good-humoured phases, which is probably the real reason why it became so extended. Some time ago I managed to get an online auction going, resulting in an offer to swop Scotland for California.
I think we'd be willing to take the sunshine and grapes, if you wouldn't mind cleaning off the earthquakes first.

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Oh, I find the whole thing pure comedy gold. *Which most likely says much about my sense if humor.* More so the less good humored parts because of how much it didn't go in the direction the OP seems to have intended and in fact as the saying goes "blew up in his face", impressively I might add.
And if it was mine to give I'd gladly pay you to take California.

Originally posted by DISRAELI
resulting in an offer to swop Scotland for California.
I think we'd be willing to take the sunshine and grapes, if you wouldn't mind cleaning off the earthquakes first.

Yeah that would be a good deal for the UK, assuming that all of the federal US government bureaucracy and debt be cleaned off too, which I'm sure it would have to be. As a matter of fact, that'd be a good deal for the U.S. too. Hmmm... what a concept! On the other hand, you'd have to accept all of the illegal immigrants too, but the UK is used to that so I'm sure it won't matter too much. The more I think about it, the better this swap looks! Go ahead and take California... it's yours... hope you enjoy it!

Hello All, a really good laugh for a Sunday morning, glad to see the Americans defending themselves with good humour.
Scots verses the Brits, Culloden, that was mostly lowland Scots fighting highland Scots, with English commanders for the lowland Scots.
Would it be an idea to call American English 'Anglish'? might save some confusion?
The Uranium used in the American atomic bombs came from England, the English were given it by the French to look after for them! (still, stopped the Nazi's from getting their hand on it.)

i dont care what the thread or the petty argument when you scare your own when you have had enough when you talk to yourself when you hit things that cant hit back when your poor when you cant pay this or that what does it matter talk talk talk talk talk all you want stfu are you really right are you really right ask yourself really ask yourself who is toooooooooooooooooo blame US US YOU ME ALL OF US

Originally posted by thotrong
i dont care what the thread or the petty argument when you scare your own when you have had enough when you talk to yourself when you hit things that cant hit back when your poor when you cant pay this or that what does it matter talk talk talk talk talk all you want stfu are you really right are you really right ask yourself really ask yourself who is toooooooooooooooooo blame US US YOU ME ALL OF US

What..... can we have that again please...

This time... in the language of SENSE of COHERENCE.

Thanks.

Originally posted by thotrong
i dont care what the thread or the petty argument when you scare your own when you have had enough when you talk to yourself when you hit things that cant hit back when your poor when you cant pay this or that what does it matter talk talk talk talk talk all you want stfu are you really right are you really right ask yourself really ask yourself who is toooooooooooooooooo blame US US YOU ME ALL OF US

Okey dokey, then... have another one, on me!

Originally posted by pikestaff
Hello All, a really good laugh for a Sunday morning, glad to see the Americans defending themselves with good humour.
Scots verses the Brits, Culloden, that was mostly lowland Scots fighting highland Scots, with English commanders for the lowland Scots.
Would it be an idea to call American English 'Anglish'? might save some confusion?

Scots versus the Brits? That's an interesting take on it, particularly given the fact that the Scots are British. I presume you mean the English?

I'd rather American English wasn't called 'Anglish', thanks. Anglish is already being used as it is in an attempt to focus on a word set that's predominantly German/Anglo-Saxon.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Believe it or not, i'd say Liverpool is one of the friendlier, cleaner and nicer cities in the UK.

It is now, now that so much of the building work is finished. Before that, maybe 10 years ago? I'm not so sure. Liverpool's always had the same problem Manchester has: it's not London.

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Robert Owen was a great man and a man born ahead of his time.

I first learned something about him whilst studying for my History 'O' Level many years ago when he cropped up in a couple of lessons.
All though he was only briefly mentioned it left a lasting impression on me and I spent some time learning more about his life and ideals etc a few years later.

Alas, I am led to believe that he is no longer part of The National Curriculum and as such will be a complete unknown to the vast majority of British school children.


Have just caught up on this thread and have found it quite amusing.

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
I'd rather American English wasn't called 'Anglish', thanks. Anglish is already being used as it is in an attempt to focus on a word set that's predominantly German/Anglo-Saxon.

Yeah, I don't like Anglish either, it reminds me of Angling (i.e. fishing). Perhaps American English could remain English and English English be called 'Englisher'. Seems appropriate to me.

Originally posted by Ulala
reply to post by Haydn_17

 

As a temporary inhabitant of the UK, I love the way you leap hundreds of years between the events you choose as being historically notable and the randomness of those events too.

To be fair to the OP, and this is something that you touch on yourself, there's a massive amount of history to summarise here. It's inevitable that massive chunks are going to be skipped over in any summary, no matter what the intentions are. I'm not really sure how any poster could include all the events and historical themes that are important to everyone. Certainly not on a thread like this.

The thing I find most risible is this assumption of yours that British history should best be left to the British ... whereas the truth is that prior to 1776 (or perhaps the Pilgrim Fathers) American history is British history and those events you plucked out of thin air are as part American heritage as they are yours.

This is a fair point but it's one that's also lost on a lot of Americans, on this forum and elsewhere. Some will acknowledge shared history, but most appear to only be really concerned with their 'kicking the Brits out' and everything that followed. Oh, and how the evil Brits oppressed them in the first place which prompted their coming to America.

You give no credit to Americans for their post colonial democratic institutions and the influence they had in the late 1700's and 1800's on European thought. In some ways your United Kingdom changed from Kings & Lords to Commons ascendant because of the American War of Independence and that each man, from beggar to baron, should have a stake in electing someone to represent his interests in Parliament.

I don't think this is that fair a comment though. Again, firstly how big was this thread meant to be to include everything that anyone could deem important? How could the OP include everything? Secondly, don't you think we hear about America's influence on the world, including Britain, enough? Surely that's one of the things that prompted this thread in the first place?

I find with British history you can choose one event and spend your whole life researching its causes, checking out the notable characters etc and you'd still never get the truth, so vast is the depth of history in these islands I've chosen home.

Again, this is what I first referred to: you're acknowledging the scale and intricacy of our history but yet you expect the OP to sum up everything to satisfy everyone?

I'm currently researching the life of a man called Robert Owen (have you heard of him ... I guess not) ... he was a social reformer in the late 1700's who believed that men were the product of their environment & he rejected all religious causes as being absurd. I've read three books about him and visited the village at New Lanark where he put his theories into practice and later this year I'm visiting New Harmony in Indiana USA, where his social reforms ground to an abrupt halt.

This is the part where we start agreeing. As a socialist from Manchester, Owen's important to me as he's an integral part of Manchester's socialist history and general history of social reform.

Again, to be fair to the OP, there's probably a hell of a lot of American posters that aren't aware of Owen either, even those that considered themselves knowledgeable about American history. Cue lots of people looking up Robert Owen and claiming to have always known about him.

Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
I'd rather American English wasn't called 'Anglish', thanks. Anglish is already being used as it is in an attempt to focus on a word set that's predominantly German/Anglo-Saxon.

Yeah, I don't like Anglish either, it reminds me of Angling (i.e. fishing). Perhaps American English could remain English and English English be called 'Englisher'. Seems appropriate to me.

How about actually leaving it as 'American English'? Wouldn't it be simpler? Might also create less confusion given the German term 'Britisher' regarding the British as people.

Or perhaps 'English -u' as opposed to 'English +u'?

All the previous posts are all very well but are now just history - Britain as a nation no longer exists thanks to the EU on 1st January 2009 -

www.eutruth.org.uk...

Events are moving at an unprecedented pace - witness the story in the Express

www.dailyexpress.co.uk...

Southern Enland is now part of the Arc Manche Region stretches from Cornwall to Kent and from Nantes to Lille. Its capital is Paris. It has its own government and its own president, French socialist Alain Le Vern

Western Britain is now part of the Atlantic region along with France, Spain and Portugal.

Eastern Britain will now be annexed to the North Sea region along with parts of Sweden, Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands and Norway.

Most of Scotland will be part of the Northern Periphery along with Norway, Greenland, Iceland and Finland.


This is not a joke the plans for this have been underway for years.

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[edit on 4-4-2010 by keldas]

Originally posted by Merriman Weir
How about actually leaving it as 'American English'? Wouldn't it be simpler? Might also create less confusion given the German term 'Britisher' regarding the British as people.

Or perhaps 'English -u' as opposed to 'English +u'?

Well seeing as I didn't even know that 'American English' was a term used at all before now, it didn't bother me that much to begin with so go for it. I'm just wondering, do I have to re-fill out all those forms that I've put my language as 'English'? It is for this reason that I really would prefer that the English use 'Englisher' or something to that effect... more convenient for me, and that's what it's all about in the first place, right?

Oh, I just had a thought. Since the Germans like to call the British 'Britishers' and I just proposed that English English be called 'Englisher', why don't we all just call you and your language 'er'. For example, "Those ers really do like to speak their er." Of course, we have to be careful not to confuse the people and their language 'er' with the sound one makes when expressing hesitation or uncertainty, but I think we can work around that.

'English -u' ? You won't be surprised by this, I'm sure, but I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Although, just by the looks of it, seems to me that, thinking of the forms again, it would be a bit hard for the people responsible for data entry of them.

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Thats rubbish painting the whole country like that its like saying all americans are fat