The Political Madness Escalates: Sean Hannity...

I started writing a "summation" type reply, and ended up with something I think is worthy of a new thread. Please have a look:
The Tea Party Is Over - The conspiracy to kill a grass roots political movement

Sorry for splitting the discussion off, but I think this event is a very clear case study in the collusion between the two political parties and the media to kill a viable grass roots political movement. And that idea deserves a new thread, and the input of all the great members who contributed here.

Thanks.

Hate to be a douchebag but It's probably too late for you guys!

The trash talk and “gang” fights have been raging on this site so much that nothing will calm that down now. Apparently, that’s what is happening in the rest of the country. Every political news or even your daily banalities are becoming tools for war. It's like a flame that only gasoline is being poured onto. Why? Well just because it was predictable.

It doesn’t really matter if the self-proclaim revolutionaries are right or wrong. Believe me, it only take a few "provocateurs" to start a big fight.

Brace yourselves!

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Hello, SkepticOverload.

In my humble opinion, I believe both parties have gone bananas in their quests to sway the American public. It's not fair that we should choose between who we feel is the lesser of the two evils. I believe that the Tea Party had a legitimate chance because of their core values (i,e. smaller government, etc.), but missed the chance to gain even more followers by apparently siding with the Republicans.

Originally posted by 23refugee
Is there no place at any table now for me?
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Who do I throw my feeble support behind now?

Ah, but if I only had the answers to these questions... I would tell them to myself. For now, I can't support anyone. I'm floating around, observing the collapse of the country that I love.

What I can tell you is that as long as you obey the T&C here, you're very welcome at the "ATS Table". Welcome. Have a seat. Let's talk. Skeptic's new thread looks interesting.

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This reminds me of the hysteria that accompanied the television news coverage of Waco...At the time I thought it was basically a serious business if people with guns were in some sort of stand-off with the authorities, but then I became suspicious of the tone of hysteria surrounding it all in the reports...What was that all about???

reply to post by Sirius20


In the movie NETWORK... after the fact that it is turned into the circus, Two things:

1. I do beleive he tells the people how stupid they are and how its the "tube" thats ruining their lives and how nobody reads books anymore,

2. I also believe this to be a sort of a methaphor for how easily the mass can be swept up by "pop culture"...

I mean that movie was filmed in what 1974? and it still holds the truth of whats going on some 36 years later... in regards to who defines "news" (i.e. FOX, BLOOMBERG, CNN etc..) whats said: control by the owners / stock holders of the companies... and who sees it... the masses that are so easily caught up in any little gimmick that comes their way... I.E. sean hannity's ego... and his "i'll go down on a law-man if Reagan thinks its right" mentality...

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The one mantra you are going to see used over and over again is about resurecting the "spirit of Reagan", as if somehow through Republican principles he "saved the country"
Have they forgotten the backroom deal to get the Iranian hostages released? The Iran/Contra affair? The whole socialism for the rich/capitalism for the poor tax overhauls, i.e "trickle-down"economics?
Yeah, we got hosed allright. I can still remember how hard it was to even pay the bills back then. I remember all the little punitive military expeditions which ended badly: Lebanon (the barracks bombing), Panama (where thousands of innocent civilians were killed needlessly), our funding of the Contras, the CIA running wild in central America killing nuns and farmers. You might even remember the Paraquat spraying operations in Mexico that poisoned millions. Funny thing is Reagan never wanted George Bush as his VP, that was forced on him. Reagan never made policy, it was handed to him and he just got on TV and told everyone what a good move it would be for America if we strangled the unions, deregulated industry (come on Rupert! buy em all up!) rebuilt our military to defeat the "evil Empire of Russia" even though analysts knew the soviet economy would collapse. We even entice Russia into a war in Afghanistan to weaken them, nevermind the innocent Afghans that were killed by our geopoliticking.
Oh, we are a divided nation alright and more so than ever. We know it is entirely by design and enabled by a media was has consolidated due to the Reagan legacy. The grandchessboard is moving into endgame and we will see if black or white wins. That is unless we the pawns decided to upset the board.

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Originally posted by Asktheanimals
The one mantra you are going to see used over and over again is about resurecting the "spirit of Reagan", as if somehow through Republican principles he "saved the country"

Have they forgotten the backroom deal to get the Iranian hostages released? The Iran/Contra affair? The whole socialism for the rich/capitalism for the poor tax overhauls, i.e "trickle-down"economics?

Wow, your ignorance of economics is astounding!

It would NOT be a far stretch to say Reagan saved the country from the Carter years due to suffocating inflation and taxes. Don't you realize that when small businesses, large companies and citizens get more of their money back into their pockets that the economy expands and prospers. With more money in their pocket due to tax relief, companies expand, hire more people and buy more inventory. When they hire more workers, guess what? These new workers pay income taxes on their earnings which goes to the government. Lower taxes increases the governments take.

I much prefer Reagan's "trickle-down" economics to Obama's "trickle-up poverty".

Read this article for some true perspectives regarding tax cuts.
The Historical Lessons of Lower Tax Rates

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It's wierd, As soon as Hannity mentions the tea partiers the audience starts to applaud, then he makes the offending remark labelling them as "Tim McVeigh wannabe's"...basically, I don't think the audience even HEARD what he said...

Maybe when the tea partiers who were present see the broadcast they'll realize they've been had by another partisan hack...

Of course they're first clue by now should've been hannity's endorsement of Ronald Reagan, A brain dead dope just like his audience.

reply to post by jibeho
I have watched CNN for years. Shortly after 911 I started watching dividing my time between Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. I quit CNN and MSNBC because it seemed to me that they were determined to tear this country down. I did spend time comparing the stories on the 3 networks. The tone of the reporter reading the story, the way the story was written and slanted, and the commentary that followed. In the end, I made the decision that Fox was the station that reported most accurately. Do I watch Fox 24 hrs a day? No. I catch a couple of hours in the morning. I record O'Reilly and Beck. I don't watch Hannity unless there is some guest I am extremely interested in, and then I record it so I can get to the segment I want to see, so I don't have to put up with his lunatic ravings.
There seems to be a tendency among the folks here on ATS to pick one side or the other. The liberals will attack me because I like Fox, Beck, and O'Rielly. But what they don't know is that I frequently check out CNN and MSNBC to find out what they have to say a bout a particular story, especially the political ones, so my opinions are based multiple sources.
Perhaps it would be a good thing for other ATS'ers to do the same before jumping to conclusions.

They just want us to progress into civic unrest so they can pull the power card. I feel the weight of them poking at almost every citizen, knowing that the little things that they can get away way with will just build into an eventual blowup. They want us to snap.

I thought the quote (it was either Sarah Palin or Ann Coulter) about "Timothy McVeigh got it right, except it should have been the NY Times building" just about sums of these idiotic Tea Partiers.

I will join the Tea Party when I see a Black Viet Nam Veteran in a wheelchair prove that this is the party for him.

I like the Tea Party for one reason, and suggest that they field as many candidates as possible in the next election. It will split the Republican bote down the middle and the Democrats will win in a landslide in November!

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Isnt it meant sarcastically since the left has been trying to connect the tea-party-movement to hate-groups and militias?

You hit the nail on the head and if you listen to the rest of Hannity's programs he clarifies where he stands.

I can remember back in June, 2008 during the presidential campaign obama making a statement at a fundraiser in Philly referring to Republicans, and saying if they bring a knife to the fight, we will bring a gun. Sounds like Chicago land strong armed tactics and politics. If Bush would of made a statement like this all hell would of broke lose of what the dems would of said about the matter. The rhetoric comes from both sides especially when it comes from the Great Deceiver. ^Y^

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Originally posted by Pointedstick
He was referring to comments from the radical left who call the tea party McVey Wannabes.

And they agreed with cheers and applause.

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by Pointedstick
He was referring to comments from the radical left who call the tea party McVey Wannabes.

And they agreed with cheers and applause.

Exactly, now this has been put in context and this is why the audience applauded in response against what the twisted radical left said about the Tea Party movement being McVey Wannabes. ^Y^

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Hannity is a great example of the unrecognized Nazi traits in America, in vogue since the Reagan years under the guise of a certain kind of pro.business and anti-third world patriotism. And yes, he IS inciting to violence, albeit tongue-in-cheek, so he could not be called to task. I know this kind of person from the Bolshevik times in my country of birth.

Actually, my stomach turns liek a dynamo looking at this guy with his faceless face and his smooth talking ideology with calculated snaps at real people with real problems. The two politicians he interviews cannot quite match the pace of this faceless Goebbelsian genius, but they are doing their best to catch up.

I am sorry, it may be a dire prejudice on my part, I concede, but when I have to endure verbal aggression and manipulative tactics spouted by a man that looks very much like a dead turnip or a hard-boiled potato served on a bland off-white platter over a plastic tablecloth (please ask forgiveness of the above-mentioned honest vegetables), I cannot but think that his kind would not be able to survive and multiply except by exerting a special sort of aggression on their environment.

I think at his age, people ARE responsible for the way they look and sound.

I may be chastised for this opinion but I watched the video and I happened to read one book from this guy last year that sounded like a coddled-up version of Mein Kampf. "Liberals" and "Socialists" play the part "Communists" did for Adolph, and Muslims fill in the roles of the Jews of the 30's.

When I see people like Hannity or Limbaugh I look around and ask: Am I actually living on the planet I thought I was?

Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by parrothead0333

 

The left has chosen to call the Tea Partiers racists and terrorists

Because many of the self proclaimed Tea Partiers have made racist and terror laden statements. There was a whole group of Tea Party members yelling racial slurs at several members of congress. Much of the violence that has been directed at the govt in the last few months can be traced back to Tea Party members or some very similar off shoot organization or militia.

Its not as though this stuff is pulled out of thin air. The Tea Party has chosen to motivate people with hate, violence and ignorance. There are many well documented instances of this, be it at rallies, protests or video of their actions.

If this is true and there are MANY well documented instances of this then please include the video or sound clips of theses instances. Show me a TEA PARTY member on video trying to motivate people with hate, violence, and ignorance. Last I checked Breitbart was offering 100k for proof of any of this. A person with a sign or yelling hate speech standing next to a crowd of proclaimed Tea Party members is not proof the Tea Party is full of hate, violence, and ignorance. You seem to have pulled this out of thin air or you watch way too much left leaning news media.

If you really analyze the clip, it has a deeper message than what the dumbed down citizens of America can perceive. Turn the audio off, and look at how the stage is set up. The common folk are in the background... behind the 'all knowing ones', just like they want it. This teaches people to watch and listen. This is brainwashing. You are to watch, listen, and support them....thats all. If people read and researched as much as they watched television, there would be no sheep to guide. Can you imagine?

Originally posted by Values_Truth
If you really analyze the clip, it has a deeper message than what the dumbed down citizens of America can perceive. Turn the audio off, and look at how the stage is set up. The common folk are in the background... behind the 'all knowing ones', just like they want it. This teaches people to watch and listen. This is brainwashing. You are to watch, listen, and support them....thats all. If people read and researched as much as they watched television, there would be no sheep to guide. Can you imagine?

Astute observation VT. That's what struck me most about the set-up. The enlightened talking heads spouting their canned ideology for the masses to absorb without question. They never discusse the real issues or any workable solutions. Just the same-old rehashed stuck-in-the-mud bull#. Yet the audience seems to receive the pablum like a relevation from on high.

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