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Originally posted by Afterall
I am sorry that sensational wording trumps logic in this case.
And so, I think we can all agree that there are and were and perhaps have always been homosexual priests in the Catholic Church. My point is that what was a safe harbor for men with what most of us now consider normal adult sexualities also became a haven for damaged deviants. This was the aforementioned "splintering" of the priesthood. I don't have to elaborate here on how pedophiles take advantage of situations. We can all agree that the daily settings of the Catholic Church were fertile for child predation by adults in power.
Originally posted by lee anoma
You can call them Autobots if you like and that doesn't change the fact that they are reprehensible monsters.
Bill Donohue seems to want to write them off as homosexuals and not "child molesters" since he avoids that classification in this segment but I haven't seen the whole thing.
He seems to think that keeping homosexuals out of the church is a solution to prevent child molestation, yet some priests have molested children of the opposite sex so I guess they need to keep heterosexuals out too?
Although I get his point about the literal term pedophilia, it would be nice if he added the "child molester" part into it rather than arguing against labeling them as a pedophile threat when they are truly a homosexual threat.
[edit on 2-4-2010 by lee anoma]
Originally posted by Afterall
Originally posted by kenton1234
reply to post by rufusdrak
"I'm not backing them up but TECHNICALLY he might be right. The TECHNICAL TERM Pedophile I believe refers to children whereas when they're pubescent the term is not pedophilia but Ephebophilia."
He can call it whatever makes him sleep better at nights but it's still called raping little children where I come from.
The point is that people are rarely punished for crimes they did NOT comit. If you want them punished, you need to address the actual crime they comitted. Would accusing them of stealing get them locked up for rape? Would accusing them of murder get them locked up for rape? Would accusing them of pedophilia get them locked up for rape?
No, no, and no. The evidence will show in each case that that is not the crime that happened. Accusing him of child rape - might just get him locked up for rape.
I am sorry that sensational wording trumps logic in this case.
Originally posted by kenton1234
reply to post by rufusdrak
"This is accurate. If you're going to accuse someone, accuse them with the proper terminology and of the proper crime.
It may be heinous but if you want to keep yourself from being ignorant it's best to research it and accuse people properly otherwise you just end up sounding like an ignorant alarmist."
Well then by all means please enlighten this ignorant alarmist. What is the proper terminology of a child rapist?
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by Afterall
I cannot believe your coming up with an intellectual 'out' for these bastards!
So, if their rape victims are 12 or 13, that somehow means they are no longer children then does it?
Despite your definition or the probable closet paedophile that defined it, MY definition of a snake in the grass, morally vacant, evil child rapist is a paedophile.
These 'people' deliberately slither their way into positions of perceived trust and authority with access to many children as their ultimate goal.
That's is called 'Grooming'. Raping a minor is child molestation and sexual and mental abuse. I do not see or accept the distinction. Frankly, i believe only someone with similar sexual proclivities would.
Originally posted by kenton1234
Well then by all means please enlighten this ignorant alarmist. What is the proper terminology of a child rapist?
Originally posted by kenton1234
Well then by all means please enlighten this ignorant alarmist. What is the proper terminology of a child rapist?