Provost Marshalls to Serve Notice To Governors of All 50 States? Restore America

Originally posted by Thoreau1
reply to post by crusaderiam

 

So what you are saying is this should have been a one sided thread.. umm.. until when? I haven't chased anyone off, I've just stated MY reasons for not looking into it any further..

Super! Now it is safe for you to leave the thread! Good day!

The Restore America Plan (TRAP)

May actually be a cointelpro "top down" operation to destroy a very legitimate attempt by these local assemblies from forming all across America. To the best I can identify, the website behind this movement is Our Sammie

Watch the video over there by Schaeffer Cox

I have seen some of this woman’s video’s before. She seems to have a bit of a cult following on YouTube.

In the past her predictions on Swine Flu and RFID chipping didn’t pan out as she envisioned it.

In all fairness it doesn’t mean that she was entirely wrong per say, the funny thing about whistle blowers is they blow the whistle often in hopes something bad doesn’t happen and well when it doesn’t, is it because so many people sounded an alarm ahead of time or because it was entirely imagined to begin with.

That’s something only the premier elites would know the answer too.

Like a lot of people in the far right she has a decided Christian bent to her broadcasts and whether it’s the President of Iran, the United States, or Israel or their citizens calling on God as part of a divine guidance or plan I tend to discount such people.

World events are world events and until there is a second coming to establish there really was a first when religion enters into world events in the form of prophecy or what God really wants my ears tend to shut down.

One thing is for sure and that’s the recent lawsuit filed by 11 Attorney Generals from 11 states against the HealthCare Act does tend to illustrate some of the states are at their financial breaking points and wits end with Washington D.C.

Oath Keepers not withstanding I would expect the U.S. Military to decide with who ever write their paychecks.

Lots of people are scared these days and for some very valid reasons but fears are mostly imagined and what this woman’s videos seem to be are things she mostly imagines!

reply to post by TrueAmerican


I'm positive I've seen her on YT before, too, and it was posted on ATS but I can't remember where.

She had evidence of a chip implant and claimed to be military. She had something like the paper work that explained the chip and held that along with the chip up to the camera lens to show it.

I tried looking through her uploads but she has 158. Here's her channel. I guess look through her other stuff to get a feel for her credibility:
www.youtube.com.../u

This girl did a YouTube video last summer, claiming she was a member of the military and had inside information. Her assertion at that time was that the military was getting emergency training and told to be ready for "October orders" to impose martial law and outfit everyone with a H1N1 vaccination bracelet because of the pandemic. Obviously, that did not happen so logically I don't think she's credible.

Originally posted by endisnighe
Can ANYONE show me where the HELL you came up with militias in this thread.

Please, anyone?

Do you people even read before commenting. This is not a militia thread.


I read over 20 pages of info on this stuff and nowhere did militias come up.


Please, people think before you comment.

The original video in this post is complety militia linked. What the hell are you talking about? I respect your posts but this comment does not make any sense.

Originally posted by tracer7
but it does raise the question if done with legal procedures could the corruption be rooted out.

that my friend is the trillion dollar question

and the answer is NO!!!!

the same croonies in DC are STILL gonna be
in DC with just a different wrapping and a
big ole bow on top. With a 2 headed snake
pops out when you open the box.

This WHOLE incident is a ploy by the PTB
to keep the masses in check and prevent
the Civil War. And I believe that most
Americans will see right through all this BS.

And IF it is ALL true then why are we not
seeing it on MSM??? Cuz this is historical.

TPTB are using, videos and blogs as propaganda
tools at their disposal to dissolve the resolve
of the people by giving them HOPE that their cause
IS being heard and something is being
done about it.

I will wait for 24-48 hrs to see if this comes to
fruition. But I highly doubt it. It's also gives them time
to prepare and move troops into position for an
assault and/or martial law. A delay tactic.

But u believe what u want to believe.
That's ur choice.


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[edit on 29-3-2010 by boondock-saint]

reply to post by kozmo


Yeah, I can reply like that too..

You all really crack me up. I think I'll stay for a while.. I'm enjoying.

What is your opinion, or do you just make it a habit of jumping in where you think you can put one of these ?

really..

No one is showing any proof of anything, and that is all I have asked for.

Like a couple of others in this thread have wrote 'TRAP' and April fool I think you should wait and see.

Seems to me to be a big move lately to marginalise the conspiracy, truth movement and I see a CNN special being aired on 01-April to make fools of those seeking the truth. Featuring Alex Jones among others and probably a mocking voice reading selected posts to certain topics.

Dont give them an easy victory. Be patient, use your judgement and dont feed their machines.

tell them to put it on the front page
of the MSM and then I'll believe it

reply to post by Thoreau1

No one is showing any proof of anything, and that is all I have asked for.

Calm down buddy. Not even the OP said this was a fact (I'm pretty skeptical of it, too). Skepticism is fine but remember the forum we're in, from the description posted above:

'This forum is dedicated to the all-important highly speculative topics that may not be substantiated by many, if any facts and span the spectrum of topics discussed on ATS. Readers and users should be aware that extreme theories without corroboration are embraced in this forum. Discussion topics and follow-up responses in this forum will likely tend to lean in favor of conspiracies, scandals, and cover-ups. Members who would seek to refute such theories should be mindful of AboveTopSecret.com's tradition of focusing on conspiracy theory, cover-ups, and scandals.'

I don't think "They" have so much power, but my point is that no one including you will do anything.

You'll form an opinion on ATS just like everyone else, but it will go no further.

As long as people have Cable TV, internet, any type of sports to watch, Beer, Pizza, local pub, dancing with the stars, "They" the people will do nothing.

Originally posted by bsbray11
reply to post by Realtruth

 

The reason you think they (the crooks) have so much power and influence is because THEY CONVINCE YOU THAT THEY DO.

All of their actions to get this much power in the first place have been sneaky, behind peoples' backs, if not outright illegal.

They are NOT that numerous or even powerful, they are just clever and have good timing, and know how to distract us from regrouping and kicking them all out.

So learn to stand up for yourself first. Then those around you. Standing up for your rights is not far from there.

Check this out it might help:

www.nesara.us...

This page states everything that was in the video...

Thought I would Add Some More Recent
Video's From jonah70757's Youtube Channel

Titled: Americans being terrorized by Washington

The Hawk Co-host of the Steve Quayle Broadcast on 03/25/2010, clearly lays out that the Government in power out of Washington DC have been perpetrating abuses which dwarf the abuses of King George which led to the Declaration of the Independence. Clearly the recent Health Care Bill is there to completely control and to violate the rights and freedom's of all Americans. The Hawk clearly lays out his case along with tidbits of intel which he is known for.

I find all of this a Shard of Dramatic, but also very important
Hey if it get's people into Controversial Talks & Action so be it...
We can never see past the choices we don't understand, apropos:
Tyrannous Corparatus Manifest Subservience is only "Contract Deep"

2cent - SeraphSirius


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Originally posted by ClintK
It never ceases to amaze me that people believe this stuff. I mean this is such obvious garbage.

"Provost Marshall?" Of exactly what military? Not the U.S. military, that's for sure. Probably some crackpot militia, and those people are always hyperventilating and screaming, and usually quite delusional.

If there was anything to this --ANYTHING-- the news media isn't talking about it. The politicians aren't talking about it. The military isn't talking about it. The pundits aren't either.

Exactly how is this supposed to work if the general public doesn't even know it's coming??

I can't believe the level of logical thinking in this country has sunk to such low levels.

*Sigh* I see that this thread has devolved into the typical typing BEFORE the brain even engages!

A couple of quick things... First of all, if this was true, and I'm not saying it is, the public would NOT be aware of it. Certainly not from the ministry of propaganda, AKA the MSM! Next, the military CERTAINLY wouldn't be talking about it. Nor the politcians who would likely be subject to criminal proceedings as a result of it.

The military has sworn an oath, to preserve and protect the Constitution from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. Being from a military family and having dozens of close friends and associates in the armed forces or holding civilian positions of authority, I can attest to the fact that they take this oath VERY seriously.

What I do know, and this has been happening for decades, is that there are two distinct forces within the Pentagon. The first supports completely the military industrial complex and has sworn allegience to it. The second are the traditionalists who believe that the military is at the service of the people and their authority is limited by the Constitution and their oath to protect and preserve it. This internal struggle was born of the Vietnam conflict and festers to this very day. It is not without merit to believe that the traditional forces in the military would make these moves given the state of the union this day.

Next, The Provost Marshal General would be the one to execute EXACTLY this authority should such orders be warranted as there is no other arm within US Army to execute and serve notice.

The next item to focus on is the notion of "Coup." The country underwent a velvet coup in 1913 with the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank and the conversion of the courts to the UCC and away from Common Law. This was uncontested as this was viewed, at the time, of being purely political and legislative maneuvering and was not fully realized for what it was until many many decades later. IF... and that is the operant word here... IF this were true, this would not be a coup, but a restoration of the principles upon which this country was founded and established and would fall well within the legal authority offered the military and the Provost Marshal General. They would be simply restoring the Republic to its intended form of Governance.

Finally, my own opinions and thoughts on the matter... First it is important to understand what the De Jure Grand Jury was and how it worked. See the description here at Wiki. Pay special attention to the following:

"In the early decades of the United States grand juries played a major role in public matters. During that period counties followed the traditional practice of requiring all decisions be made by at least 12 of the grand jurors, so that for a size of 23 a bare majority would be 12. Any citizen could bring a matter before it directly, from a public work that needed repair, to a delinquent official, to a complaint of a crime, and they could conduct their own investigations. In that era most criminal prosecutions were conducted by private parties, either a law enforcement officer, a lawyer hired by a crime victim or his family, or even by laymen, who could bring a bill of indictment to the grand jury, and if the grand jury found there was sufficient evidence for a trial, that the act was a crime under law, and that the court had jurisdiction, then by returning the indictment to the complainant, it appointed him to exercise the authority of an attorney general, that is, one having a general power of attorney to represent the state in the case. The grand jury served to screen out incompetent or malicious prosecutions.[4] The advent of official public prosecutors in the later decades of the 19th century largely displaced private prosecutions, but also led to their capturing grand juries and using them in ways for which they were not originally intended.[5]"

As one can clearly see, the power of the grand jury was held by the people. It wasn't until 1913 that the Grand Jury powers were delegated to a prosecutor under Uniform Commercial Code in obvious violation to the laws of the Republic. So, in essence, our court system has been illegal for the past 100 years! It would not be at all inconceivable to believe that Common Law Grand Juries have been convened for the very purpose of investigating and evaluating evidence in conjunction with high crimes, misdemeanors or even treason and sedition as would have been done under the original articles of the Constitution.

So, back to my thoughts... I believe that all of this is certainly possible and theoretically conceivable. The pieces being described are certainly lawful under the Constitution and actionable by the Provost Marshal General. NOw, does that mean that this is what has happened? I obviously have no idea and only time will tell. BUT, the descriptions of everything I have read and the content of the videos DO accurately describe what one would reasonably assume would transpire in the event that the military sanctioned it. I'm not going to immediately jump on anyone and say, "NO way, it's BS!" but I am also not going to say that this is happenning. I will say that I remain hopeful that this IS occurring as it is likely the last remaining avenue we have without having to resort to a violent revolution. My prayers are with the folks trying to initiate this strategy!

reply to post by AshleyD


Gotcha

I understood the thread for what it was, but I was asked to provide proof that it wasn't true.. it was more a reply to that than anything, but yeah, I'm calm.

reply to post by TrueAmerican

Another goober hoping for Armageddon gets it wrong again. Provost Marshals, gimme a break. I'll tell you what, I wish I was on that email list though. That'd be some good reading.

Ok I have refrained from commenting on this thread as I have mixed feelings. I have first hand knowledge of this effort and have read the declaration and was asked to sign on. I Did not sign because I feel that while well intentioned it is not lawful and may cause a civil war.

Let me say this I agree with the stated goals but feel what they are doing is very dangerous because of HOW they are doing it. So yes this is for real and this effort is being implemented. Time will tell how it plays out and hope I am wrong about it and it dangers but I have studied and researched our history and law etc. for over 20 years and see some serious problems with it.

There have been several efforts under way to lawfully restore the republic and this effort actually spilt the folks up in my state working on it over how to proceed.

So here is the basic premise. The lawful government has been supplanted by a private corporation calling itself THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Some won't believe this but it is a fact and can be proven. All the States are subsidiaries of this corporation. The Clearfield doctrine derived from several supreme court decisions when there was still some vestiges of the Republic basically says that when Government descends to the level of a private corporation is ceases to be government. Democracy is an outgrowth of this de facto (unlawful) government. Most Americans have no memory of the republic and hence we see folks defending vigorously the de facto socialist corporate democracy and even thinking it is part of the republic when it is not!

The republic still exist but there is no one home so to speak. This effort is an attempt to repopulate the vacant seats of the Republic and restore lawful government. This where I have problems with it as Grand juries have never been body politics in our history only functions of the federal judiciary and some states. Current Grand juries are what is called de facto they are part of the corporations and not the Republic therefore not lawful. The courts and even your school districts are all PRIVATE CORPORATIONS.

Of course there is much more to this I won;pt go into right now as it takes to much time but here is a link that is a good place to start if you want to learn about this: freedom-school.com...

The military role in this is that the we are under military rule or martial law and have been since 1933. Again most won't beleive this but it is a fact. and the Provost marshal is the highest authority in his area. The military is part of the corporation also but the UCMJ does subjugate the military to the civil government so they are obligated to obey if the civil government is lawfully in place. When its not the Military is supposed to restore and keep order until it is. So this is the premise the the military will enforce this. The militia is the lawful military.

One of the problems I have with this plan is there is no evidence the military is involved just a few peoples word. So again only time will tell. and if they are not this will go nowhere. If they are not all of the military will be on board and this could cause a civil war.

Folks the coup has already happened by the corporate government take over of our republic this would not be a coup but media will certainly paint it as that.




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I have seen her videos before, and she was stating she was in the military and warning people about enforced innoculations and bracelets.
But onto the post at large. I am going to call this as a false statement. The reason why is that the US Military would not get involved in a coup against the Federal Government. To do such would violate not only federal laws, but also state laws as well. If they use US military troops to remove people who were voted into office, then it would be civil war, as it means that there is not guarantee that the government would be of the people. It is a dangerous thing to do, and I for one would demand that all those who did participate in such actions be held and convicted on the grounds of TREASON. The very notion that the US military would act in a means of sedition and treason is a nightmare that none of us want. Ask yourself, could you trust your government after the military was involved in a coup?

Originally posted by endisnighe
Alright, one thing is for sure, this is definitely a religious drive.

It is and this group is frightening.

They discuss things such as "restoring biblical law" and use terms such as "reeducation".

While some of their civil ideas may sound appealing, having religious whackjobs like this attempting some sort of weird coup would be beyond disturbing.