Provost Marshalls to Serve Notice To Governors of All 50 States? Restore America

reply to post by endisnighe


Okay, sure.

The Federal Reserve can be traced back to the Dallas servers, hosted by THEPLANET.com (as seen in my earlier posts, it seems to be a common among federal systems) Which, is why I don't understand the gotfr.com association to DNS used by the Federal government

However, the DHS use separate DNS to the rest and I cannot even find basic information on domain and ip. Secondly, because of it, I don't want to try and find it. Don't want the Americans referring me to MI5.

One of the routes (on the Federal Reserve trace), goes to Washington DC- a location that the NSA deals with. From my research, it is an NSA monitoring "room". Reverse DNS: xe-2-4.r01.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net. If you ever have something similar to that DNS, located on your PC connections, it means the NSA are listening.

Because of the FBI investigating the guardians, I was not surprised to see "suspicious" ips on tracing Liberty for Life and Guardians for the Free republic. These ips would appear now and again, as if the sites are being monitored.

And, most likely, anyone looking into this movement too. I had an NSA connection to me. NETSTAT command showed it.

DNS: dnsauth1.sys.gtei.net

Did some digging and asking around, the above is linked to the NSA. So, let us be careful. If I was being monitored for a time, then others are too.

Brief scan for association and links to the military, brings nothing. The only hit I got, was a document (think it was by the DHS) regarding conspiracy theorists and constitutional groups as being "potential domestic terrorists."

The PDF even explained the theory of the New World Order, which was quite interesting.

Google commands, internet tools and cmd prompt were the only items I used to get my information. All the documents and data was in the public domain.

Good Point, I appreciate your feedback, there are very many sites online that will point you to some very interesting information, some of the feedback on the host posted is very interesting.

(Via Google and/or Yahoo this information is available)

Everyone is curious to a certain degree, some more than others. Some are blamed for being evil or wrong, take for instance "Hackers", going back to the 80's or so, these weren't terrorist or "evil" people, just curious individuals. If a hole was discovered in those days, most of these individuals would report the problem. Now, they are considered to be "Terrorist".

I notice quite a few people here that care about their country, interested for themselves, their friends, family etc. This should not be declared as evil or wrong. Should a Patriot be considered Evil?!?!

Who has anything to hide in a Republic where there is no crime if there is no injured party?

The agencies are extremely compartmentalized and not all of the people there are evil. It is best to just assume that they are capable of tunneling through firewalls and tapping the phone, skype, instant messengers, email, etc. That way there is no need for fear, if you have nothing to hide.

Now, if T.R.A.P was not a peaceful movement, then I wouldn't even be following it. I don't know why I have received private messages telling me to be 'careful', because I am full of care: Care for the future of our Republic.

So... when are the governors supposed to be removed? Hasn't it been three days? Same old Tiger Woods on the news...

reply to post by Ionized


Oh, Restore America Plan is fine.
That's taking place on April 19th, but we just don't understand why the Guardians are presenting a different "plan." The media were linking the Continental Congress, who are behind the RAP and Articles of Freedom, to the guardians? Well, some random guy on youtube was suggesting they were united.

Both are two separate entities.

And if you want to disclosure a private message I sent you, then fine, I'll spell it out publicly. Be provocative, but don't come crying to me if the NSA decide to listen to your online activities for a while.

If the websites are traced through and associated with [NSA linked DNS servers] this movement you want to succeed (I'm not questioning the principles, just the execution of it) then expect the NSA to be monitoring you.

For once in this thread, read through what others have said, especially the IT information. This is not some geocities or micky mouse website, it is sharing servers with Federal agencies.

The FBI is already investigating the Guardians after the letters were sent out, do you want them to think you are apart of them? An FBI connection was discovered when I checked out gotfr.com. If you sign up quick Ionized, the FBI might include you in the investigation

After all, mocking everyone's warnings in these threads, you think the FBI and NSA would never turn their attention to you. Yeah, they watch ATS, but they'll never check out a member who wishes to be seekingly pro-active in this movement, right? What about the DHS, wouldn't be monitoring this thread-especially after all the federal DNS servers I posted?

Chances are, if I had NSA snooping around me earlier on (btw, I'm a European citizen), then everyone has been looked at on this thread.

[edit on 5-4-2010 by infinite]

reply to post by infinite


What makes you think, that the NSA does not already have information concerning me?

Also, who disclosed anything YOU sent to me? What makes you think that there were not others who also sent me the exact same type of message type in a PM? (hint, there were, hence I am not disclosing a single PM)

You make an awful lot of assumptions.

[edit on 5-4-2010 by Ionized]

I am repeating myself. Someone is ignoring posts, twisting our words and trying to paint us as somewhat "traitors" for not believing everything posted on ATS is true. If people do not want my help or warnings, fine, everyone here can get burned and learn the hard way. Finished with this thread. One more thing...

You have added Ionized to your Ignore List. Refresh the current page to remove their posts from the thread.

Every military and civilian officer is appointed as a GUARDIAN OF THE CONSTITUTION, when they enter service with one simple act:

"I, (full name), do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

There is nothing sinister about standing up to defend the Constitution, it is the first duty you inherit upon appointment. It is a sinister act to interfere with someone who is under oath and attempting to defend the constitution. These are situations of high crimes and treason to the united States of America.

reply to post by infinite


Perhaps it never occurred to infinite that some people on this site are quite used to being monitored by our friendly security agencies, and that there is no need to fear that being the case. I certainly don't fear their monitoring, as I am not committing any crimes. Maybe some people have more to hide than others, and would fear being monitored? Interesting.

I don't appreciate the fear mongering by infinite, attempting to dissuade contributing to this thread simply because it is being monitored. Well, who in their right mind, would not have that as an assumption in the first place?

Now, his agenda seems to coincide with Libertygals, and that is, that this is a hijacking of movements from the Constitutional Convention people, and that this hijacking is a black op to gather intel on interested patriots. Hey, I am not discounting that theory entirely. However, I am certainly not going to stop listening to the radio shows and talk shoe episodes, just because they might be monitoring and gathering information on me. As I stated already, not everyone in the NSA or FBI are bad people, there is no need to have an automatic fear of them, and if you do have that fear, perhaps there is a deeper reason for it.



[edit on 5-4-2010 by Ionized]

Originally posted by infinite
reply to post by endisnighe

 

Okay, sure.

The Federal Reserve can be traced back to the Dallas servers, hosted by THEPLANET.com (as seen in my earlier posts, it seems to be a common among federal systems) Which, is why I don't understand the gotfr.com association to DNS used by the Federal government

However, the DHS use separate DNS to the rest and I cannot even find basic information on domain and ip. Secondly, because of it, I don't want to try and find it. Don't want the Americans referring me to MI5.

One of the routes (on the Federal Reserve trace), goes to Washington DC- a location that the NSA deals with. From my research, it is an NSA monitoring "room". Reverse DNS: xe-2-4.r01.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net. If you ever have something similar to that DNS, located on your PC connections, it means the NSA are listening.

Because of the FBI investigating the guardians, I was not surprised to see "suspicious" ips on tracing Liberty for Life and Guardians for the Free republic. These ips would appear now and again, as if the sites are being monitored.

And, most likely, anyone looking into this movement too. I had an NSA connection to me. NETSTAT command showed it.

DNS: dnsauth1.sys.gtei.net

Did some digging and asking around, the above is linked to the NSA. So, let us be careful. If I was being monitored for a time, then others are too.

Brief scan for association and links to the military, brings nothing. The only hit I got, was a document (think it was by the DHS) regarding conspiracy theorists and constitutional groups as being "potential domestic terrorists."

The PDF even explained the theory of the New World Order, which was quite interesting.

Google commands, internet tools and cmd prompt were the only items I used to get my information. All the documents and data was in the public domain.

I'm pretty sure everything you are saying here is meaningless gibberish. I could break it down line by line but it would just confuse people. So I'm just supposed to take your word for it that you did your research and some reverse DNS string means the NSA is listening? Right.

[edit on 5-4-2010 by theyreadmymind]

reply to post by Ionized


You make good assertions about surveillience activities and we must each strive to protect our privacy as best we can. That having been said, it's a sad state of affairs that "in a free society" we might consider the possibility that what we read and the information we access would be scrutinized somehow for "implied intent" or other filtering. How we act and what we say or write is certainly scrutinized for "intent". Most folks accept the notion that society requires behavioral rules, not limits on intellectual development, entertainment or fantasy.

gj

Okay, peeps I have discussed and cussed with you on this thread and others. All of these things you are stating in regards to DNS servers etc etc etc. I and many others know how to use computers, know how to use software, know how to use many different things.

Here is the deal, let me state that I am more of a jack of all trades, not a specialist, except maybe construction codes and management. All of these things that you trace back could be ancient Aramaic to me or others. Also, if you think any of the alphabet agencies are listening in or even doing some CoIntelPro activities, it would be simple for them to hijack the link between servers or such and then reroute and blah blah blah to make it look like anything.

Why do I know this to be true, even though I am not a computer nerd per se, because if I was a computer nerd working for the gubment, I would do things just like I stated.

All I am saying is that I will take things as unconfirmed unless I hear it from the horses mouth. Meaning, I will trust the words of the movements before I trust things like innuendo, suppositions, trace backs (or whatever you are doing), etc etc etc. Now, if the FBI, NSA or another alphabet soup gets on the MSM and states something with verifiable evidence, I will take that as evidence. Which of course we all know they will not do. That is not their way. They like to destroy movements like the TPM by co-opting, defamation, provocateurs etc etc etc.

In other words, our gubment is not honest. They have not been more many decades.

I am not attacking anyone, I will hope that these movements are genuine. As for others, do not sign on to anything and especially do not spend money. If these are legitimate movements, yes, they will need funds for their efforts. But, anyone attempting to require money for just getting info should not be trusted.

One more thing, if anyone is too damn paranoid to trust no one, how the HELL do you expect to change anything. Also, if our gubment is so damn corrupt and evil that you believe that something is going to happen to you just because you are discussing things online, you should get off the internet and do something else.

I will speak my mind and if the damn gubment wants to come and get me, they have my IP address and they can contact my ISP to get my address in about 1 minute. No big damn deal.

Just quit the fear mongering and innuendo. If you do that your evidence would be much more credible.

God Bless and Peace.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

Be a information soldier, in an Army of one. Where no one can follow, only lead. The endisnighe.

Here's my thought about the people trying to induce paranoia around here.

We're all supposed to have freedom of speech. If we don't have the freedom to come here and discuss what's going on and get our news in any manner we choose to, then someone has usurped our freedoms and we don't really have any freedom at all. If our government is spying on us and making us out to be criminals and putting us on terrorist lists, then this is not a government for the people.

If you're one of these people who have declared your independence, then yeah. Your life is in danger. There are a lot of evil people out there who don't want you to have freedom. As soon as you start to realize that you're a free person, there are going to be a lot of powerful people that want you dead. It's unavoidable. These people who signed the declaration of independence knew they might be signing their own death warrants. People are willing to die for freedom. They always have.

So please stop inducing paranoia. It's totally unnecessary. As far as I can tell nobody has broken any laws.

reply to post by Libertygal



Libertygal what you are missing is that the contract you signed was a fraud. You believed you were loaned money when you were not. The bank in fact cannot loan it's assets out by law. If you have a mortgage take a look at the promissory note. Whose name is on it? Do you see the banks name anywhere? No! So how can there be a contract unless two parties sign? The deed is where you re-conveyed the property back to the bank for a loan received. First How can you re-convey something you don't already own? And did you received a loan before you sat at the closing table? No! The original contract even says the property was conveyed to you for ever which means you paid when you signed the promissory note.

What makes it hard for most people to understand is "there is no money" we are trading debt or promissory notes as if they are money. You can't pay a debt with another debt. You are just creating more debt. This is how our system works the banks know this but most people do not. So your note is more debt or what we call money the banks use it because they know we are ignorant that it is money but they use it without our consent and fraud you into paying for your house twice and then the turn around and sell the note several time making at least four times the price of the property while you continue to pay for it. The bank risked nothing, brought nothing to the table but fraud and tricked you into paying for it multiple times.

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by Libertygal

 

Libertygal what you are missing is that the contract you signed was a fraud. You believed you were loaned money when you were not. The bank in fact cannot loan it's assets out by law. If you have a mortgage take a look at the promissory note. Whose name is on it? Do you see the banks name anywhere? No! So how can there be a contract unless two parties sign? The deed is where you re-conveyed the property back to the bank for a loan received. First How can you re-convey something you don't already own? And did you received a loan before you sat at the closing table? No! The original contract even says the property was conveyed to you for ever which means you paid when you signed the promissory note.

What makes it hard for most people to understand is "there is no money" we are trading debt or promissory notes as if they are money. You can't pay a debt with another debt. You are just creating more debt. This is how our system works the banks know this but most people do not. So your note is more debt or what we call money the banks use it because they know we are ignorant that it is money but they use it without our consent and fraud you into paying for your house twice and then the turn around and sell the note several time making at least four times the price of the property while you continue to pay for it. The bank risked nothing, brought nothing to the table but fraud and tricked you into paying for it multiple times.

The Guardians say it may take six to eight years for people to learn how to live free again.

Liberty gal has a high R2C factor and now has the Freedom to decide for herself, what is right or wrong.

I would warn those who still believe the U.S. corporation exists, to be cautious when they violate anyone's rights under the original c. 1787 constitution.

[edit on 5-4-2010 by theyreadmymind]

Can anyone prove any of this...except for "uncertified mail" being sent out?
And business 101:
Nothing is legal binding that isn't sent certified signature mail.

reply to post by hawkiye


Hey, buddy -
I've been reviewing previous posts (Got a bit sidetracked by issues with a member here)
I see why you said this IS a # trap.
They (the guardian elders) are assuming a a position of power, both politically and judicially, (Is that correct?) which means they are, in effect, the Government, unelected. And, if in fact they are following the Constitution of old, there is not provision for such an element to have such power, or jurisdiction.
Sorta right?
Here's my question:
The movement that was derailed by the Guardians, was it the Lincoln County Watch you link to?
If, in fact TRAP has moved forward in some capacity. And, let's say the Elders do, if fact, have this control.

Is the LCW in any position to counter ... well, their counter (or hijacking or whatever you want to call it)?

Also, if I may ask of you in addition?

Does the LCW have the juice to effect a change if TRAP fails?
or
If this other April 19 march thing goes pear-shaped, will they be in a position to invoke their aims?

Thank for all the info on here and keepin' real, Sir.
Just in the middle of the John Harris video ... Pretty good!

All of this a lot to absorb.