2012/Microchips/Sun gods/And How To Make a Difference!

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Bravo Essan.. First time I've come across an 'agree to disagree' response.

I'd say that trying to date the culmination of the sort of events we're musing about here is about as useful/productive as trying to corral the North wind.

And believe me - if there's nothing to this - if we all live happily ever after, no-one will be more pleased than I...!

The things I've seen, heard and discerned over the last 15 years have unfortunately led me to perceive that something dark and globally devastating is 'just around the corner'.

Added as worthy adversary..!

www.scribd.com...
Rik Clays London Zion 2012 Book, very detailed, very fact filled research, please download!

Google Video Link

Rik Clay - Redice Interview

The whole thing! Wonderful. I light a candle to him, he's so beautiful and brave!

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Logo for the 2012 Olympics/London!

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Puzzle Solved!


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Roadways around it!


His death was a message, but fear is the last message we need. We are Love & Light and have far more help than we can ever imagine if we connect inside our hearts, to our Source and our Higher Selves. This is our school!

pigs-in-the-parlor.blogspot.com...

Rik Clay's ashes were scattered on Sept 11 2008


Those who have taken down Rik's work from their websites claiming they are scared is exactly what the elite want. I for one still cling to TRUTH. If Rik was wrong in his predictions and information , who cares! We need ALL information in order to make our own conclusions!

Rik Clay disappeared from his regular forums, took his website down and his parents claimed he was "Emotionally Exhausted" , weeks went by, Shill's pretending to be Rik Clay frequented the David Icke forums and facebook to claim Rik didn't want to carry on his work.

Everything connected to Rik's work was removed and a few weeks later Rik Clay was found dead, apparently from suicide.

The Forum thread above will take you through the last few weeks.

All of Rik Clays posts I could get my hands on are posted below

He did this for us, and passed the baton. We need to open our eyes, Awareness 101.

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The Two Faces Of God

Well, its coding. The one is the El/Saturn coded meaning, and the Dog Star.

Of course, for all the faithful, its whats in your heart that counts. If you're aware, renounce all coding and run with the pure and highest meaning of God, Infinite and Beyond that I know we all think of if we think of ONE, and we think of if we think of MANY IN ONE. Either way, the Universal Law is written in our heart, to be understood by our heart, from whence our Guidance comes, through our hearts. Their coding only is a pit for them!!!!!

Turn the coin around and:

God = Goodness
Devil=Evil.

Satan= Santa, and SATURN!

Of course, all souls are equal, and in this universe infinity program, all souls are also ET, in the full meaning of the word.

This really is their symbol for the Old Empire and Dracos/Reptilian/Annunaki:

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Saturn possesses a hot spot at its north pole, similar to the one known at its south pole, researchers discovered recently. The first detailed views of this region taken by the Cassini spacecraft revealed this as-yet-unexplained feature.

The north pole has been in winter shadow since 1995, so seasonal variations in sunlight do not seem to explain the hot spot's existence.

Infrared data shows that the north pole vortex possesses a structure and temperature similar to the one at the sunlit south pole. The cores of both show a depletion of phospine gas, an imbalance probably caused by air moving downward into the lowest part of Saturn's atmosphere, the troposphere. Both polar vortices appear to be long-lasting and intrinsic parts of Saturn.

Also still unexplained is the polar hexagon, which was first sighted by the Voyager 1 and 2 spacecraft. Cassini again noticed the strange polygonal shape in early 2007.

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vigilantcitizen.com...

You might not know it, but the entire world has been worshiping Saturn for thousands of years. The cult has never stopped and its rites are still present to this day. Saturn, dubbed the “Lord of the Rings”, is the reason why we exchange rings at weddings or put halos on the heads of godly people. This article exposes the attributes of the god Saturn and the perpetuation of his cult through in pop culture....



Before the Great Flood, Saturn was regarded by all mankind as the supreme god and ruler of the kings. Occult researchers affirm that Saturn ruled the kingdom of Atlantis and became the divine ancestor of all earthly patriarchs and kings. The cult has been perpetuated through numerous gods during Antiquity:

“Chronos, or Saturn, Dionysos, Hyperion, Atlas, Hercules, were all connected with ‘a great Saturnian continent;’ they were kings that ruled over countries on the western shores of the Mediterranean, Africa and Spain. ”
Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations

In Egyptian mythology Isis is considered Saturn’s eldest daughter:

“I am Isis, Queen of this country. I was instructed by Mercury. No one can destroy the laws which I have established. I am the eldest daughter of Saturn, most ancient of the Gods”....


Saturn in Semitic Civilizations

Semitic civilizations referred to the god Saturn as “El”. The supreme deity was represented by a black cube. We can find instances of the cube across the world....


This black cube is a remnant of the ancient worship of El.

Ancient Hebrews represented Saturn with the six pointed star, which later became the Star of David (it also had many other esoteric meanings). The symbol is still found on Israel’s flag.....


Many esoteric researchers affirm that the name Is-Ra-El is the combination of the names of ancient pagan deities Isis, Ra and El.....


The Greeks and the Romans also worshiped Saturn as a cruel deity. Here’s a brief summary of the mythology of Saturn in the western world:

“With the deposing of his father, Saturn became the ruler of the Universe for untold ages and he reigned with his sister, Ops, who also became his wife.It was prophesied that one day Saturn would lose power when one of his children would depose him. To prevent this from happening, each time Ops delivered a child Saturn would immediately swallow it. When her sixth child, Jupiter(Zeus), was born, Ops had him spirited away to the island of Crete. She then wrapped a stone in his swaddling clothes. Her deception was complete when Saturn swallowed it, thinking it was the child. When Jupiter was grown, he secured the job of cup-bearer to his father. With the help of Gaia, his grandmother, Jupiter fed his father a potion that caused him to vomit up Jupiter’s five siblings, Vesta (Hestia), Ceres (Demeter), Juno (Hera), Pluto (Hades), and Neptune (Poseidon).”
-Wikipedia, Saturn (mythology)......





Occult Symbolism : Saturn Worship
May 25th, 2009 | By Vigilant | Category: Vigilant Reports

You might not know it, but the entire world has been worshiping Saturn for thousands of years. The cult has never stopped and its rites are still present to this day. Saturn, dubbed the “Lord of the Rings”, is the reason why we exchange rings at weddings or put halos on the heads of godly people. This article exposes the attributes of the god Saturn and the perpetuation of his cult through in pop culture.

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Since ancient times, sages gazed at the stars, admiring their heavenly glow and attributing them godly powers, based on their effect on humans. Before the Great Flood, Saturn was regarded by all mankind as the supreme god and ruler of the kings. Occult researchers affirm that Saturn ruled the kingdom of Atlantis and became the divine ancestor of all earthly patriarchs and kings. The cult has been perpetuated through numerous gods during Antiquity:

“Chronos, or Saturn, Dionysos, Hyperion, Atlas, Hercules, were all connected with ‘a great Saturnian continent;’ they were kings that ruled over countries on the western shores of the Mediterranean, Africa and Spain. ”
Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations

In Egyptian mythology Isis is considered Saturn’s eldest daughter:

“I am Isis, Queen of this country. I was instructed by Mercury. No one can destroy the laws which I have established. I am the eldest daughter of Saturn, most ancient of the Gods”

Saturn in Semitic Civilizations

Semitic civilizations referred to the god Saturn as “El”. The supreme deity was represented by a black cube. We can find instances of the cube across the world.

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Black Cube in Santa Ana

This cube will be inside's Apple's 24/7 store
Will be part of Apple’s 24/7 store in NYC

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Manhattan, NYC

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Denmark

Australia
Australia

Maybe Muslims and Jews have more in common than they think...
This black cube is a remnant of the ancient worship of El.

Ancient Hebrews represented Saturn with the six pointed star, which later became the Star of David (it also had many other esoteric meanings). The symbol is still found on Israel’s flag.

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Many esoteric researchers affirm that the name Is-Ra-El is the combination of the names of ancient pagan deities Isis, Ra and El.

Saturn in Western Civilizations

The Greeks and the Romans also worshiped Saturn as a cruel deity. Here’s a brief summary of the mythology of Saturn in the western world:

“With the deposing of his father, Saturn became the ruler of the Universe for untold ages and he reigned with his sister, Ops, who also became his wife.It was prophesied that one day Saturn would lose power when one of his children would depose him. To prevent this from happening, each time Ops delivered a child Saturn would immediately swallow it. When her sixth child, Jupiter(Zeus), was born, Ops had him spirited away to the island of Crete. She then wrapped a stone in his swaddling clothes. Her deception was complete when Saturn swallowed it, thinking it was the child. When Jupiter was grown, he secured the job of cup-bearer to his father. With the help of Gaia, his grandmother, Jupiter fed his father a potion that caused him to vomit up Jupiter’s five siblings, Vesta (Hestia), Ceres (Demeter), Juno (Hera), Pluto (Hades), and Neptune (Poseidon).”
-Wikipedia, Saturn (mythology)

Saturn devoring one of his children by Peter Paul Rubens
Saturn devouring one of his children by Peter Paul Rubens

Saturn always had a negative, if not evil significance. In ancient times, it has been called “The Greater Malefic” which was opposed to Jupiter, “The Greater Benefic”. Saturn is esoterically associated with man’s limitations, restrictions, death and decay. His Greek name was “Kronos”, the ruler of time, time being the main factore inevitably leading to the death of mortals.Traditional representations of the “grim reaper” originate from the attributes of the god Saturn, who held the sickle with which he slain his father........



Saturn has also been associated with Satan and this, for numerous reasons. First, many authors argue that the word Satan is derived from the word Saturn. Second, Saturn is associated with the color black as well as Satan. Third, Ancients considered Saturn to be the farthest planet from the sun , the latter being associated with the principle of Good. (Note that Pluto never was considered a planet). Saturn is consequently the celestial body that is the less exposed to the sun’s divine light and thus associated with the coldness of the principle of Evil. Finally, the “great god Pan”, the horned deity, represented Saturn in ancient paganism. This half-man half-goat creature is considered the ancestor of our modern depictions of Satan......


“Pan was a composite creature, the upper part–with the exception of his horns–being human, and the lower part in the form of a goat. (…)The pipes of Pan signify the natural harmony of the spheres, and the god himself is a symbol of Saturn because this planet is enthroned in Capricorn, whose emblem is a goat” -Manly P. Hall, Secret Teachings of All Ages....



“Saturn is the opposite to Jupiter; his symbol is the cross above the sign of Luna (1711 ). He is the Satan, the Tempter, or rather the Tester. His function is to chastise and tame the unruly passions in the primitive man.”
-J.S. Ward, Freemasonry and the Ancient Gods....


Probably the most extreme example of a secret society worshiping Saturn’s Evil principle is the “Fraternitas Saturni”. This occult organization is based in Germany and openly embodies the hidden side of Saturn worship.....


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Hey Unity,
I have got all of your info, although I haven't had time to watch all the videos. I am currently reading the book "Parallel Myths" by J.F. Bierlien. It's pretty good, it takes creation, flood, and apocalypse myths and finds the similarities. Nothing about 2012 exactly in it, but I thought I would relay some of the stuff in the apocalypse section.
The first is India

The earth has been created, destroyed, and recreated many times...the destruction of the universe is inevitable in every cycle...A cycle, or "Day of Brahma," lasts 12000 years of the devas, or 4,320,000 human years. At the beginning of each such "Day,"... the world is recreated. Every cycle is divided into fourteen manvantaras...each manvantara is followed by a great flood that destroys all living things, except those saved to repopulate the earth. During these floods, the continents are rearranged...

From the Pawnee:

Tirawa Atius (lord of all things) appointed the North Star and the South Star to control fate...When the South Star catches up with the North Star, then the world will end.

Cherokee:

The earth floats like a great island on the waters and is held up by rawhide at the four points of the compass. This rawhide is attached to a ceiling of rock crystal in the heavens. Sooner or later, the rawhide will grow old and crack, and when it breaks, the earth will plunge back under the waters and all life will end. Then, as happened the last time, the Creator will pull the earth back out of the water and recreate the world.

The above quote about the Cherokee reminded me of this thread:
This thread will surely convince you that 2012 has significance!
I linked to the exact post I am speaking of, with a diagram that I feel might represent the above myth.
Moving on....

New Testament:

"But in those days, after that time of distress, the sun will be darkened, the moon will lose it's brightness, the stars will come falling and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.

I still have some more reading to do...on a lot of other books. Just thought this was interesting. I have been perking my ears up at your thoughts of Saturn, and I may have to do my own digging for that. Thanks again for doing all this!
Peace & Love,
-FCL

Its all about Saturn as symbology, and their Egyptian trinity of Orisis/Ra/Isis. Osiris being El or Saturn, and Isis being his daughter. And its coded in our langauge, in our religions, along with a patch work quilt of sungods. They actually promote willing sacrifices in a real attempt to make some bad karma.

Note this isn't something we are burdened with, its something to depict how sinister and long standing and long standing the plot against humanity is, and how they weave they web.

Note, that wedding rings are symbolic of Saturn's rings, and a supposed pledge, graduation certificates have Saturn symbolism:



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No, this isn’t an article about the “black pope” (at least not directly). People who qualify as Men In Black are people whose official outfit is all black, like Judges and Priests (…both wear black robes; people stand when either of them enters the room…be it the congregation or the courtroom and jurors. In both a church and a courtroom, the judge/priest will be separated from the people by a little wood fence with a brass gate. Both look down upon the people from an elevated alter or bench…there are more similarities, but that is not the direction I’m going here), many times you will see in a college graduation ceremony, the graduates wear all black (by the way, when you graduate, you wear a [Masonic] square mortar board on top of your head…this is a dramatization of certain African tribes who strapped wood boards to their heads and wore them for years as their heads grew… thus flattening the tops of their heads. It is a symbol for a cut off point to your learning…it says, “My [occult/mystic] education goes to ‘this’ level and no higher”, whereas the pope wears a huge hat, his knowledge into the occult and the goings on behind the scenes goes pretty deep. His huge hat says the same thing that a Navaho Chief’s huge headband of feathers says: “I’m into some really deep things that would blow your flat little mind, go back to your alcohol and amusement…pay no attention to me and my giant hat, you wouldn’t understand…that’s why you don’t have a hat like this, because it’s Over your head!”…or something like that.). I digress. Hitler was a man in all black as well…the “bad guy” always wears (a) black (cowboy hat)......




The Gestapo, wearing all black, was once called The Order of the Black Sun. The word Satan and the word Saturn have the same “DNA” so to speak. These men in black who worship this black planet are on the Dark side, with the all black Darth Vader. Darth Vader by the way was in the Empire Strikes Back…New York is the Empire State, it’s the hub of America, it is the State of the new world Empire. What would this Empire State be striking back against? How about Rome? Remember, England broke away from the old York or the old world order (Rome) and made a New York here in America.....



It should be obvious why an eclipse is such an event for those “in the know”. An eclipse is (in part) symbolic of Saturn – as the moon blocks the sun, the moon becomes the black planet and the sun’s glow around the moon will form the rings. Below is a combo of the eclipse and Saturn. See how the word Universal is wrapped around the earth, like a ring:.....



So, El was the name for the Saturn god, and later on El became the name for God, period. The priests who worshipped El were known as Elders, just like we have elders in the church today, and as I mentioned before, they wore black robes to worship their black planet just like the catholic priests wear today. The Elders of old are pictured dressed in all black, often with the ring of Saturn around their heads (halos); others (monks) shaved the ring of Saturn with their hair. If you were to be married in this church of El by an elder, the elder would place a ring of Saturn on the couple’s finger. How did you become an elder in this church of El? You become elected; once you become elected, you may consider yourself one of the Elite.

These elite men are elected because they have what it takes to keep things running. Two things that truly keep things “running” are electricity and money (or currency – current-sea). Consequently, we refer to electricity as a current; this is why we call money currency, because it is the cash flow of the elite that keeps things running. The court system is the conduit that holds it all together; directing the flow of the currency.

The whole thing is worth reading, in fact saving.

The coding in the words is impressive find.

This also goes into your straw man name, so many things, the whole court system...

The black sun=SATURN.

Seeing, knowing, understanding. The truth will set us free.

The way out of the matrix, and karma and everything they are doing, IS LOVE, and GIVING TO OTHERS!

Africa is the symbol of this planet!

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Yes, the information is there and recorded in every civilization, all the lands and people. That sounds like a good book, and I will be looking for it. Thanks for sharing. This is all about awareness, and then taking some action, not necessarily the revolutionary kind. There are many ways to look at this, my favorite is the metaphysical, I do have a strong of who I am and I want everyone to be happy, filled with joy, progressing, evolving and learning, loving each other. My Higher Self, isn't a warrior, though I do sometimes feel like I'm on this "serve and protect" mode. It kicked in really strongly at the school one day, waiting for an appointment. Children were walking by and I had this really strong spider sense of danger, and instantly it was "Must Protect The Children!" I sensed the danger was coming from behind me, turned around and it was the Queens picture on the wall.


But when I connect, she sees everyone as children, and how do you fight with the dark siders, when they need love. Like a toddler having a temper tantrum, running after his brother with a pair of scissors. You wouldn't shoot him now would you? Basically they both need rescuing, and both are in danger!

Thats how I see it. I know where I came from and where I'm returning to. This isn't about fear, its about growing into realization and awareness, waking up to the world around us and being Responsible!

So, your contribution is greatly appreciated. I have so much appreciation also for those who passed on what they knew, for their knowledge, to record for prosperity, a record of the past. Some buried in religious text, but some just carved by survivors into mountains.

humans are aware of their own self growth.

if in a time a person who was human was bored and created a system of monitoring his perceived growth beyond the ability of his perception of growth; then, this is what the 2012 calender means.

since a person can negate or accelerate their growth 2012 is not set in stone but is.

all the extra chaff that is left over from a persons growth that is not available to that persons body will be what is remnant in creation.and how is the 2012 calendar different from this?

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In all the research I found, I didn't get into the Mayan calendar, because I felt that it was overdone already.

This was more of a look at the legends of the ancients from around the world, and the archeological and geolgical evidence for massive changes and flooding. Its all there.

Its also going further, its a look at whose hands we're in for the elite, and in the end, all the things we can do to make a difference.

The Mayans certainly have left a big signature and anyone who wishes to research this is invited to do so.

Thank you for sharing your viewpoint.

Illuminati Sun Symbolism Light & Darkness Masonic

Signs and Symbols control the world, not phrases and laws"
--Confucius


www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

TWENTY-TWO
Scorched by the Sun —Solar Signs, Circles, and Serpents

It is He (God) that sitteth upon the circle of the earth...
- Isaiah 40:22 (written about 1,000 years before Columbus proved the earth was not flat)

It would not be impossible to prove, with sufficient repetition and psychological understanding of the people concerned, that a square is, in fact, a circle.
— Joseph Goebbels Propaganda Minister Nazi Germany

In the mythology of the primitive world, the serpent is universally the symbol of the sun...The serpent was universally represented by the sun symbol, the circle or disk.
— Bishop Alexander Hislop


The Two Babylons
The sun has ever been at the center of false religion. The Ancient Mystery Religions venerated the sun, the solar disk, as deity. The Greeks honored Apollo as the child of the sun. The Romans paid homage to Mithra the sun God. These pagan philosophies form the basis for the worship of the Illuminati and indicate the importance of the sun as symbol of satanic deity.


Englishman John Yarker, a well-known nineteenth century Masonic magician and occultist, in his Notes on the Scientific and Religious Mysteries of Antiquity, makes mention of the fact that the High Priests of the ancient Jews also worshipped the sun God.



He writes:

The Mysteries we know were practiced in a secret subterranean chamber under the Temple of Solomon, at Jerusalem, where four and twenty elders adored the sun, with their faces toward the east.

In reality, in worshipping the sun, the ancients were worshipping Satan. G.H. Pember, in a scholarly work on the Mysteries, Earth's Earliest Ages, affirms this fact when he states,

"There is little doubt that the culmination of the Mysteries was the worship of Satan himself."2
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Congressman Tom Delay (R-TX), House Majority Leader, pictured in Time magazine. Politicians are sometimes framed with a sun-like halo, called a "nimbus," over their heads. This gives them the subtle majestic appearance of being some type of God-man.

In honoring and worshipping the sun in their rituals, Freemasonry and Illuminism defy God. The Bible's Job displayed great wisdom by uttering these words concerning God's thoughts concerning worship of the sun and the heavens:

If I beheld the sun when it shined, or the moon walking in brightness; and my heart hath been secretly enticed... this also was an iniquity to be punished by the judge; for I should have denied the God who is above. (Job 31:26-28)



The Swastika Represents the Sun
The Nazi swastika is a representation of the sun. But the Nazis simply borrowed this symbol from the ancient religions, including the Hindus of India, the Shintoists of Japan, and a number of Native American Indian tribes. Even today, in temples and shrines throughout Asia, you will find the swastika painted on walls, on totem poles, and over altars.



Until Hitler and the Nazis gave the sign a bad reputation, the Masons also universally used the sun sign. And today the symbol of the circle, particularly that of the point within the circle, is a prominent feature of Masonic theology.



The Point Within the Circle
According to Mackey's Masonic Encyclopedia the hidden, true meaning of this symbol, the point inside the circle, is far different than what the everyday Masonic brother is told. In reality, its meaning is yet another proof that Masonry is a sex cult. Mackey says the esoteric explanation is that the point within the circle is the male phallus (or privates) and the circle is the female yoni, or (privates). Here, says Mackey, is a "symbol of fecundity, expressed by the male generative principle."4

But, Mackey emphasizes, the sun is still not forgotten in Masonry, for while the, ..importance to the Illuminati Masons and yet is so little recognized as significant by the dumbed-down masses, many Illuminists enjoy a bit of mockery of the masses by blatantly displaying this symbol. Some believe the Target department store chain logo—the red circle and point—is one example.



Pat Robertson's Hidden Message
Pat Robertson, Religious Right leader of TVs The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition, gives us another graphic example. Some years ago, Robertson had two books ghostwritten for him, one called The New World Order and another titled The New Millennium.



As happens often in elitist circles, the opinions and material for both books seemed to be decidedly anti-elitist; they even exposed the global conspiracy and the Illuminati. So, was Pat Robertson really joining the fight against the evil Illuminati? Not on your life!

The books were for the "stupids," the masses. While reading The New Millennium the reader ignorant of the uses of symbolism probably ignored the fact that at the top of every page, a point within a circle could be found. This was Robertson's "hidden code" to his elite pals that he was still on their side and was just taking the ignorant masses for a ride......



The Sign of the Mafia, the Illuminati and of Druids
According to Dr. Cathy Burns, in Hidden Secrets of the Eastern Star, the point within the circle is, "The sign of the infamous Mafia or Cosa Nostra," rather than the "black hand" as many believe.6

But the real shocker is the importance given this sign by Adam Weishaupt and the Order of the Illuminati. Burns explains that because Illuminism was so determined to keep the true nature of the Order under wraps, its founder, Weishaupt, ordered that the actual words "Illuminati" and "Illuminism" never be used in correspondence. Instead they were to be replaced by the astrological symbol for the sun; that is, the circle with a dot in the middle.7
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Upon his death, Time magazine published this telling photo of Beatle superstar George Harrison (1943-2001) on the cover of its December 10, 2001 issue.



Harrison, wearing black, in a black and white photo, holds a sunflower, symbol of the Illuminati Sun God. The solar deity is also prominently worshipped in the Hindu religion, and the Beatles were devoted followers of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and other Indian Hindu gurus.



Time's feature story, in fact, reports that George Harrison never gave up on his gurus, to his dying breath. All the Beatles were drenched in illegal drugs, such as coc aine, hashish, and heroin. Their album, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, even had a cameo photo of British "666" beast satanist priest, Aleister Crowley, on its cover. The latest information is that the Beatles were an experimental music group sponsored behind the scenes by British and U.S. intelligence.



Their role was intended to use various psyops mechanisms and anti-Christian messages to arouse turmoil and psychological trauma in society. One of the Beatles most memorable albums was tided, Magical Mystery Tour.



Beatle John Lennon was murdered by a man many believe to have been a CIA trained "Manchurian Candidate," and George Harrison was once assaulted and stabbed by a would-be assassin.

This link is very very well researched with many pictures, another one worth saving.


Sungods brings up the MICROCHIPPING, especially since it doesnt make sense near the end of a cylce, so to speak.

It does if you understand how they are coding everything, and expecting a NEGATIVE HARVEST. Something that would chain people to them somehow, after the event, to their handlers, their entities and Ets.

As I said, its our heart felt ideas that matter. We can renounce the codes if our conscience tells us to, or if we can't see it, we run with the highest meaning of our hearts!

If you've watched zeitgeist, or read the Code to the Matrix Final Copy that I linked you would see that they have coded all the religions to mean "sungods" and also saturn, and their Egyptian trinity as well, along with all the language.

I'm not going to link pictures here. But basically, the human sacrifices down before the last cycle, by the various people around the world, such as the Mayans:

www.crystalinks.com...

and Aztecs:

en.wikipedia.org...


This microchipping is Is A MEME symbolizing the mark of the devil for Christians, and I'm not sure, but are the tribes of Judan or the Muslims going to accept this?

WILLING SACRIFICES TO SUN GODS AND FAITH!

And this is about how sleazy they are, and this is why they are pushing for microchipping.

Its whats in our hearts that counts, and no one is worshipping the Sun, or the Dark Sun, rather everyone, whether they are Hindu, Seek, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, Christian is worshipping either the ONE Infinite Creator in the Infinity and Beyond in their hearts, OR, the MANY IN ONE, Infinite Creator in the Infinity and Beyond in their hearts.

All of us have to say no to the microchip, and to ALL OF NWO! And to starvation, homeless, destruction of nature, and mother earth, fossil fuels, copyrights, patents, corporations, banks, etc......And mean it. No means no, yes means yes, WE ARE SOVEREIGN!

But that is the tie in. And is tied in!



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And we shoot back at them, eh! (see caption on this post). To survive, we need GUNS, AMMO - as per YOUR post on Welcome from the Benevolents, page 32 (?). The spiritual becomes - dare I say it? - more political.

mclinking

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Hi Mclinking,

I see that you are making subtle assumptions/accusations about me in you're recent posts. Have you really read all of my posts? Please review the thread in it's entirety before making such assumptions/accusations and coming to such conclusions.

p.s. I've pulled the above post for reasons revolving around Unity_99 and her current direction with the thread.

Best Wishes!

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Thank you for posting these pictures, really good find. Birds of a feather flock together, they work together towards the same goals. Waking up to this element of the matrix can be helped by seeking the answers within your heart. But those who have love and charity in all religons, often already ignore half or more of the Scripture and see the Creator as Love, Kindness, Patience, and already believe that any bad scriptures was merely the influence of waring leaders on the scriptures. They are not worshipping the sun, rather the Infinite Love Beyond! The coding doesn't work on them because they don't see it, they follow the rules in their heart, and the understanding in their heart.

Originally posted by mclinking
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And we shoot back at them, eh! (see caption on this post). To survive, we need GUNS, AMMO - as per YOUR post on Welcome from the Benevolents, page 32 (?). The spiritual becomes - dare I say it? - more political.

mclinking

You don't really understand the message he is giving. Or the love that is there in connecting to your Higher Self, and the light within. This is our greatest strength. And though it may not seem like it in the event of a great catastrophe hitting earth, but even more than earth changes, deeper and of the greatest importance to your cosmic and eternal families, watching over, is for us to wake up, to become aware of who we are. And to change our apathy towards each other to love, to lending a helping hand.

That being said, ET_MAN is perhaps less likely to consider using violence to defend himself and would think out of the box than myself, with my children.

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Assumptions? Bound to be made when explanations are not readily forthcoming - this relates to your messages sent to me on your other site and destroyed before they arrived. Perhaps we can discuss them on your other site(s) via private messages. I am extremely frustrated on this issue. As for reading your posts on this thread in their entirety, I arrived late in the day and am only up to page 35! On your new site, I see I'm the only person to have started other threads, have had no replies and feel I'm talking to the wall. There are many things I cannot take at face value and naturally am bound to have questions.
However, I'm only one person and it is clear you have a lot of others to respond to. I don't want to fall out with you because we basically believe the same thing, but the devil's in the details.

mclinking

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To me, the spiritual path means 'no violence'. Your last sentence is you, thinking for ET Man, and you used the word 'perhaps'. Et Man can defend himself and doesn't need you to think for him.

mclinking

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There would be nothing spiritual having your children witness you doing nothing while someone either tortured them or kidnapped them in your presence. Their last site of me would be dying to defend them. The way of the Hopi sacred warrior was never to do any action offensively, yet protecting loved ones was a sacred duty! There is no cosmic race that does not defend itself, nor angel!

Edit to add: This is not to say there is no spiritual tools. The most important one is to be on a search for truth and look within our hearts, to connect to our Higher Selves, guides and help and to push all limits on raising our frequencies and love. To see ourselves as powerfully protected and safe at all times and in perfect knowing, at the right moment, at the right time. But we still need to be as prepared for every eventuality as we can.

[edit on 2-4-2010 by Unity_99]

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You're right. Each of us would react naturally in the face of any act of violence. It's difficult to say how EACH would react. If I am involved in a dire situation, I've no idea what I might do, despite my best intentions. Action speaks louder than words, I suppose.

mclinking

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Well, I can see some who may never take any overt action to save self, and rely on their connections to the Beyond and the true help we do have. This may ultimately be the Highest Good, and we may need to really rethink how we might be viewing things. But for many, even if they're willing to not defend self, this becomes a whole different equation when their loved ones, and others are being attacked.

IF this event is really heading our way, now, in the next few years of our timeline, then there would likely be some real madmax type predators in the mix. Most people who were in groups would realize that only in collective cooperation, sharing and trading, would survival be guaranteed.

I'm actually glad you brought this up, a few people I know of who are attempting to plan for the possibility of an event like this were actually discussing this very thing, do we take guns in to the shelters or reastiblish the future based on the past.

On the other hand, can we be so niave as to not understand that larger numbers of peaceful ones cannot be masacred by a small amount of opportunists.

Is it faith we need, or sound preparation? I was in a conversation like this not to long ago, and no definite answer came out of it. So this is still something we need to think about.

There is something else too, that turns a whole new slant on this entire survival situation, to me it changes everything, is the very foundation of the situation. Are we really reastablishing a new future for the race, a chance to redo everything as some think, how? How could that be. 14% of humanity will be underground in deluxe survival accomodations, viewing everything on their screens, watching struggling groups.
What about that? What kind of implications does it bring to mind when such a large number, high tech, militarized, 4D technology already, is watching all this misery for how long, a year, five years?

Do they, who consider themselves the cream of the crop, not understanding how we are equal in a way more profound than anything that could be explained in human terms, these psychos who thought that the human race should be based on survival of the ugliest and most heartless (bad dna let me tell you!), these cretins are going to come out.
What then? Knowing what we know that they did, and how they exhorted trillions upon trillions, created illegal wars to steal trillions of dollars worth of drug money into their black projects, funded by the public purse, while stealing trillions in bank transfer money, crashing the economy, starving and murdering billions. So their sorry behinds can be saved in luxury?

They're going to come out. What would you say to them? Could you tolerate the sound of their voice! I imagine they come out looking like ETS, no doubt. They would probably do it just to make it look like benevolents are here and the dark ones have been dealt with because they know that we know, especially those who survive, and that we would spit on their faces, spit on their help, spit on their new planet, ITS ALL MANIPULATION!

I am repeating all of my message standing under the stars, asking for help from real benevolents. This cannot be allowed. Please, mother earth needs help, and the children of earth need help, we ALL need to be free and helped. Not just the few who wake up, not just QUALITY or QUANTITY, a very bloodline, shadow government twisted MAJESTIC thing to say, ie. the Majestic that Steven Greer talks of, by the way.

This situtation is so dark and twisted its not possible.

These people must rethink what they're doing and come clean. They must redistribute all goods and free energy and heritage seeds and move people to safe locations, and build shelters, about 5 feet under the ground with good ventillations, preserve all technolgoy all over in safe locations, so at least some of it will survive, ham radios, communication networks, underground computer systems, linking everyone (NOT MICROCHIPS GRRR) and stay with us, stand with us. There is light in your dark squares, you are light too, remember it!!!!!!!!