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South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

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posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:37 AM
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^ no one went over the edge, they were in disputed waters.

Anyways..

here is a picture:

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www.channelnewsasia.com...


[edit on 26-3-2010 by CanadianDream420]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:37 AM
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reply to post by kdial1
 


here I thought that sick bastard was sick and dying


I just hope this doesn't escalate to another full blown war



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by CanadianDream420
^ no one went over the edge, they were in disputed waters.

Anyways..

here is a picture:



www.channelnewsasia.com...


[edit on 26-3-2010 by CanadianDream420]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:40 AM
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A star for the Johnny Dangerously quote.
Funny movie.

The US has a permanent base in South Korea with about 40,000 troops stationed there so the US would have no trouble providing support the the South if war was to break out.

Hopefully it doesn't but this has gone on for almost 60 years now, at some point a final resolution to the Korean war will have to take place.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:41 AM
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Okay if it wasn't the N.Korean's then who ?



Lee says rescuing sailors from sunken ship most important


SEOUL, March 27 (Yonhap) -- President Lee Myung-bak ordered his military to focus efforts on rescuing sailors from a sinking naval ship, aides said Saturday.

They said it was unclear whether North Korea is directly involved in the incident.


english.yonhapnews.co.kr...

Notice the time line.

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[edit on 26-3-2010 by tristar]



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by MagoSA
Either way, whether this steals Obama's thunder for next week or is a false flag attack to deflect attention, what's the main goal here?

1. Kim Jong-Il finally went over the edge?


I doubt this happened under his direct command. I think it is just common procedure that they fire upon each other, for win or loss.



2. SK decided to unify Korea as a whole by force?


That ain't gonna happen. South Korea has no real win in doing that. North Korea is just a famine-ridden mess.


3. US needs a new call to glory?


They have plenty as it is. The last they want is war with North Korea...again.


My concerns are this:

1. How will the US provide support to the SK military when we're stretched to the limit between Iraq, Afghanistan, and drone-firing on Pakistan?


They already have all the support they can get. Besides, they are pretty good at fighting as they are.



2. Draft soon?

Are there any men left to draft?



3. Where is our war materiel boost from the last 7 years of war material production?


Wasted already or being wasted as we speak?



Maybe not much of a post, but you had the "?'s" and I provided some "!'s"



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Got to admit this is so so exciting

Time to annailate the north



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:43 AM
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Any way you look at this, it's not good. Although details are sketchy at this time, does anyone think this isn't a good enough reason for Kimmy to pull the trigger?

He is practically on his death bed and as someone else pointed out, for him, what better way to go out than in a blaze of glory, sending troops and artillery to SK.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this WAS an unprovoked attacked by the north in order to simply put the spotlight on the south to retaliate. Seriously, if this was unprovoked 2 things will race through Kimmy's mind: 1. it's time for war or 2. the south will not respond under anything but an extreme, all out attack on the north's behalf.

Let us all hope that cooler heads prevail in the cabinet meeting going on in the south now, but any way you look at it, Barry is going to have some thinking to do about this one...



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:44 AM
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This isn't an act of war as a state of war has existed for 50+ years between the North and South. This is just another in a long line of tragic skirmishes between the 2 navies.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Erasurehead
Wow, This could be big news. This could ignite war in Korea again.


Especially considering North Korea just officially dismantled the treaty and claimed they were no longer bound by its demands.

This is not good.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:47 AM
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The North has always used this tactic;
Bring out their rusty guns and wave them about, revoking all treaties, for one simple reason: they want aid.

When ever they get "scary", the west calm them down with some aid.
The North knows the procedure...



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:49 AM
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Nothing will come of this. Sad event, yes. Just some flexing of muscle's, and comparing the size of ahem...trust me, war isn't coming from this.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:51 AM
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I really hope this starts world war 3..im sick of waiting around for it since we all know its coming. GO KOREA!



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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www.reuters.com...

A South Korean naval vessel with more than 100 aboard was sinking on Friday in waters near North Korea and Seoul was investigating whether it was hit in a torpedo attack by the North, South Korean media said.

Broadcaster SBS said many South Korean sailors on the stricken vessel were feared dead.

South Korea's YTN TV network said the government was investigating whether the sinking was due to a torpedo attack by the North, and Yonhap news agency said the Seoul government had convened an emergency meeting of security-related ministers.

Yonhap also reported a South Korean navy ship firing toward an unidentified vessel to the north.


looks serious guys, if there are already sailors feared dead then my guess would be an explosion which means torpedo. war has started between countries with far less provocation then this... as many have pointed out whats does kim jong il have to lose..



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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A rescue operation is under way, and at least 50 sailors have been rescued.

Six naval ships and two coastguard vessels were involved in the rescue operation, Yonhap reported.


BBC

At least some good news in all this...



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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And we also know that you'll die one day. Why not kill you now?



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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Who ever fired the first shot may have no bearing. Under international law if you paint me with a fire control radar, I am justified in firing. When we were playing games with the Bears and Mays back in the 80's certain systems were locked out because using them constituted an act of war. I'm talking radar systems, not weapons systems.

Has anybody given any thought to this being the beginning of a coup in N Korea? You know, somebody down the food chain provoking S Korea. Then the NK leadership goes to their command bunker, bunker goes BOOM! and somebody moves to the top of the food chain. The last thing NK wants to do is throw a nuke. They do that and the country is gone in about three days.

Could this be caused by China? China sinks the boat. SK gets pissed at NK and China moves into NK to quiet things down and removes that thorn from their side.

All kinds of possibilities here. Little things like this are how big wars start.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Raud
reply to post by lpowell0627
 


The North has always used this tactic;
Bring out their rusty guns and wave them about, revoking all treaties, for one simple reason: they want aid.

When ever they get "scary", the west calm them down with some aid.
The North knows the procedure...


I agree but this time a ship was sunk. Usually it just involves some firing back and forth with very little or no damage. This is an escalation of tactics.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyBare


So it would seem. if true... this attack wasn't unprovoked... AKA South Kora is not an innocent victim

BBC story

Don't be so quick to call the south the provocateur. They may have been responding to the detection of the torpedo. It often takes some time for a torpedo to reach it's target.

I suggest you wait for the whole story before pointing the finger.



posted on Mar, 26 2010 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by IanC99000310
Got to admit this is so so exciting

Time to annailate the north


I hope you were joking, millions would die on both sides if a war broke out.

As for the story, i don't think there is enough info yet. Certainly keeping my eye on the situation though.



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