South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

I never once said whether this could be a made up incident or not, I am merely commenting on the fact that it seems some people believe that nobody in this world would kill you for just being an American or ally of... And that anything that involves a war or any incident that is targeted against Americans is done by our own government. I have lived in 14 different countries and have seen anti-American sentiment in almost all of them... Yes the government has the ability to start wars for the good of TPTB but there is also legitimate threats to you and yours... and if you don't see this then I still feel sorry for you... like I said I doubt you have much real world experience to see first hand the HATE that people have around the world just because of your nationality or skin color...
Let's look at why people hate us and stop trying to blame some worldwide shadow government eh?...

reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow


well with that comment you've just summed up how ridiculous your assumptions are and how you've got me completely wrong. So with that logic you think that because afghanistan, iraq and vietnam were all based on lies, that some news reports on how a S Korean incident involving a ship being sunk without any real knowledge on how it sank other than an explosion in the hull is a false flag attack? wow just wow
Like I said I am open to the idea of a false flag event, but hold your horses, we dont know ANYTHING yet.

reply to post by Envisionimage


So you know all these people that want to harm you? How?

Listen mate, the "NEWS" daily propagates this propaganda to fit the agenda. Do Not be afraid. Live your day with love and respect to everyone, and this way of thinking leaves you - for good.

and I should know.... I thought the exact same way as you...

Just dig a little deeper - you owe it to yourself to do the research. Chin up!

Personally, I think this is a whole lot of nothing. If it had been a "false flag" it would not be being swept under the carpet as it is now. And If NK did sink that ship it was not part of a large scale attack - most likely it was an isolated skirmish that got out of hand and now they're trying to play it down. Or, even more likely, it was an accident.

I'm sure people have said it in this thread already. I haven't really read all the responses. But...


*Cough*Golf of Tonkin*Cough*

Well, either way, this sucks. Another step closer to ending the ceasefire between North and South. Just what *some* people want as a pretext for American troops in Korea once more. Go, NWO, go!

reply to post by SpaceMonkeys


Well I disagree - I think you are totally blind to a false flag event.

Name just one for me for starters.

edit to add: The press - your source(?) believe this to be an attack from the North Koreans - which I question, due to the past false flag events, such as 911 Gulf Of Tonkin, 7/7 , Madrid, Mumbai ... to name a few...

Why would this tactic change? Why now?

[edit on 26-3-2010 by watchZEITGEISTnow]

This surely a bad move by N. Korea - if they did do this!

reply to post by antonia


Friendly fire?

This was all orchestrated just to see the reaction on ATS

Originally posted by Yissachar1
S n F....

Just seen this on Sky News..... Apparently it was a North Korean torpedo...

Perhaps Kimmy is starting to make good on his threats?

I pray not....

If another country torpedoed a US or UK Naval Vessel with over 100 people on it and sank the boat, I think something would be done about it.

Does South Korea have any balls?

Originally posted by minkey53

Originally posted by Yissachar1
S n F....

Just seen this on Sky News..... Apparently it was a North Korean torpedo...

Perhaps Kimmy is starting to make good on his threats?

I pray not....

If another country torpedoed a US or UK Naval Vessel with over 100 people on it and sank the boat, I think something would be done about it.

Does South Korea have any balls?

"Apparently"

BS - Don't fall for this BS - this has the hallmarks of a false flag - perpetrated by your friendly neighborhood Fox news rubbish...

I am glad nothing came out of this.

Now for those saying US is behind this or along the lines. First of all if USA really wanted to go in NK , they could have done it 100 times in the past , nuclear threats remember? , that satelite thing remember? nuclear tests remember? all other saber rattling Kim did in the past 5 years or so. If they really wanted to go there they would have been already there.

It can either be an accident. Or Kim really wants something since tomorrow is his political party's "birthday".

And some totally dismiss the idea of Kim doing anything...well you have to remember how that guy rules and what he does there. If you asked me oh how would i know , one of my close friends lived there. Kim is dying , he considers himself as God. Do you really think a "God" as he likes to call himself will just die off without some sort of glory , without some sort of impact? Doubt so.

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
reply to post by Envisionimage

 

So you know all these people that want to harm you? How?

Because I have been in combat with... Wait for it....

Them, and yes I'm 100% sure they weren't some black ops US agents dressed as imams and Iraqis trying to blow me up, in fact the ones that we were able to get a hold dead or alive of turned out they crossed the border from.....IRAN! Holy cow no way?! Wait?! Iranians want to kill us? NO WAY!!! they want to be friends and come over to your house for beer... LoL!
I have seen the hatred in the eyes first hand and almost every IED that is used is coming from Iran, Like I said I have been around the world twice and I know what I saw wasn't part of some big conspiracy to perpetuate a global agenda, it's people wanting to kill us for who we are plain in simple...

reply to post by Dock9

How utterly appalling for members of the online community

to witness 100 flags for an ATS thread whooping up another war,
'over there', far from the US

100 flags

people were so excited at the prospect of a war
that they hit the flag button 100 times in less than half a dozen pages

that is sickening

FYI: I just added another flag, but not just to p!$$ you off.

The more people who know or consider that this might be a false flag event, the less successful it may be. What else can we do in light of how FFs have been used in the past so successfully?

[edit on 26-3-2010 by 1SawSomeThings]

No matter what the truth is...

I'm sure the last 12 hours have been very interesting aboard U.S. trident submarines in the Pacific theater. I just hope their communications buoy didn't get cut off during a nuclear launch code transmission. If so, Gene Hackman is probably fighting a mutiny against Denzel Washington right now in disagreement whether or not their ship should launch a full release of their nuclear arsenal against NK.

reply to post by Curio


You are 100% correct. When looking back over the thread, the first reports on the issue are saying this was some sort of torpedo from a North Korean vessel. As more information came in we noticed the media was downplaying the incident.

I could be wrong, but isn't a false flag attack supposed to work the other way around? In a situation like that the reports would be more planned out, we would see an abundance of information and no downplaying of the situation.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Carefull what we joke about, the world has been a few minutes away from such a scenario a few times, Once the Russian president was told he had 3 minutes to launch in, as that was the expected time of arrival of a new rocket picked up inbound...It turned out to be an swedish or such like scientific launch... the russkies were told but it got lost before Early warning knew...

He had his finger on the button, thinking in 3 minutes an Nuke is going to hit moscow....

Scarey Thought indeed!

Too much power for human nature Nukes.

reply to post by Becker44

Originally posted by Becker44
Not so fast.....................
www.washingtonpost.com...
Patience is always recommended in events around the peninsula.
Becker

Indeed, but not so fast on what?

I think they are thinking exactly the same thing as your link shows:

Reports of a possible naval clash saw the won weaken roughly 0.45 percent against the dollar and were cited by analysts as one reason for a dip in U.S. stocks.

The price to insure Korean sovereign debt rose to 83 basis points from 78 basis points in the wake of the news, according to two trading sources. That means the cost to insure $10 million in South Korean debt increased by $5,000 to $83,000.
-snip-
Reports of a possible naval clash saw the won weaken roughly 0.45 percent against the dollar and were cited by analysts as one reason for a dip in U.S. stocks.

Wash Post

And now at just after 10pm tonight in the UK

FTSE 100
5703.02down
-24.63 -0.43%
Dax
6120.05down
-12.90 -0.21%
Cac 40
3988.93down
-11.55 -0.29%
Dow Jones
10850.36up
9.15 0.08%
Nasdaq
2395.13down
-2.28 -0.10%
BBC Global 30
5935.51down
-12.66 -0.21%
Data delayed by at least 15 minutes

BBC

And that is why even if it was a torpedo, it looks like hopefully this will just be part of the history book of exchanges, and problems between South And North Korea.

Easter Next Weekend, so a short trading week and holidays.... all financial people and traders bankers fear one thing more than any other.

Open Markets elsewhere, reacting to breaking events such as wars starting, and not being able to trade until they open.... London generally Fri off, Mon off.....next week.

They know if something like a War between USA and Korea Happened as sdiscussed here, it would be a major conflict unlike anything between Iraq etc...Besides the reality of that, loosing carrier battle groups and the like, another driver for behind the scenes will be the markets.

They could Open for trading and be bankrupt or 99% devalued before they could even try and sell a share or bond that cost $100 and thousands of them, for a $1 or so....

Normal Weekends spook them with geopolitical crises, as the Asian markets open before them, never mind easter.

Thats why this is a "flock of birds" & "Explosion", and thank god for that! one good aspect of the current system financially, it may have helped stop a war... for now anyhow.

He is very successful as an Dictator Kim.... I just hope not as good as he thinks and the people rise against him....I think it is an unlikely scenario though...it is a bit like an open sore on the world the North Korea Dictatorship.

I have often thought would they let us know if he had concentration camp like facilities... even though the society is set up a bit like that anyhow.

The south Korean people have really been abondoned by the world... but there is nothing that can be done that wont make things worse outside his borders.

Kind Regards,

Elf



[edit on 26-3-2010 by MischeviousElf]

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow

Originally posted by minkey53

Originally posted by Yissachar1
S n F....

Just seen this on Sky News..... Apparently it was a North Korean torpedo...

Perhaps Kimmy is starting to make good on his threats?

I pray not....

If another country torpedoed a US or UK Naval Vessel with over 100 people on it and sank the boat, I think something would be done about it.

Does South Korea have any balls?

"Apparently"

BS - Don't fall for this BS - this has the hallmarks of a false flag - perpetrated by your friendly neighborhood Fox news rubbish...

Are you suggesting it was perpetrated by the US? Because I seriously doubt they want to rock the boat (no pun intended...) in that region right now with things about to kick off in the Middle East any time. Also, if it was a false flag they did a pretty poor job because nobody seems to know what actually happened!

reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow


because not absolutely everything is a conspiracy. Accidents happen, real attacks happen, real events happen. So far we don't have any evidence to support either conclusion. It's like someone falling out a building and you saying that the person was pushed on the basis that people have been pushed out of buildings before. We need the evidence first.
I believe 9/11 is an inside job, not because of the gulf of tonkin, but because when I looked at the evidence time and time again, things didn't add up, so I eventually reached the conclusion that it was either allowed to happpen or a full blown inside job.

reply to post by Styki

I could be wrong, but isn't a false flag attack supposed to work the other way around? In a situation like that the reports would be more planned out, we would see an abundance of information and no downplaying of the situation.

Good point. But maybe they needed extra (night) time to get some more evidence planted. Maybe plan "B" had to be activated because someone screwed up.
Since this is a conspiracy site, I'm just sayin...