Where is she/they now?

Anyone remember the woman in the video saying that “now I don’t have to worry about making house/car payments/gas” or something of the sort when Obama got elected?

I wonder where she is now? What are her thoughts that she will be forced to spend more money to pay for something she might not have already been able to afford?

Ah here she is.

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Anyone know if there is one of those where are they now sort of things on this woman? I would love to hear her thoughts of all Obama has done for her.


Where are the others like her who were so pleased that they were going to be taken care of? Anyone on here regret backing the government that was recently elected into office? What were your thoughts prior and now?

Raist

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Well, I can tell you what I've seen, not what the Fox news or anything else has told me.

He helped get the credit card companies which have been ripping off me and the American public for years to calm down.

Banks can no longer charge you outrageous over the limit fees, instead if you dont have the money when you swipe your card, you just dont get whatever you're trying buy.

If the cancer I had comes back, my insurance company can not drop me because they know I'll be going through some expensive tests and treatments.

The only thing I really hated was the 2nd bank bailout he signed.

Anyways, thats just a few things I've seen, I remember when ol Dubya got into office everyone got a check for 600 dollars I think? That was pretty nice, but just about everything else he did when office I did'nt like. And I'm no demopublican or republicrat., just callin it like I see it.

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Credit card companies calm down? Doubtful. If you noticed they raised their rates.

I don’t even use my cards and the rates went up. When they have been used they were paid when I got home that day on line from my checking account. Now I cannot even do that without getting charged a finance charge.


Yep big help that was.

Raist

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Well, I've noticed the opposite with mine. I'm on the verge after 10 years of paying them off and cutting them up. But last month money was a little tight because my wife is still in school. We needed some food from the store, so I said screw it I'll put 50 bucks worth on the credit card, they'll be paid off soon anyways. I did. I got home and the wife was pissed because i took the wrong one and pushed it over the limit. But there was no over the limit fees, or higher interest when i went over the limit. I noticed last year when all that credit card reform was going on they raised my interest rates....for no reason except that they knew their time was limited. I actually saved up a thousand bucks to put on one that had over 5,000 on it. As soon as I paid it...they raised my interest rates 20 percent!!!! With no warning just bam, you owe us more money. like they knew i was trying to pay it off and were gonna screw me even more.

I'd like to know where this lady is:





I bet she is on ATS

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So you did not notice the opposite.

I noticed last year when all that credit card reform was going on they raised my interest rates....for no reason except that they knew their time was limited. I actually saved up a thousand bucks to put on one that had over 5,000 on it. As soon as I paid it...they raised my interest rates 20 percent!!!! With no warning just bam, you owe us more money. like they knew i was trying to pay it off and were gonna screw me even more.

It was not just you it was everyone.

Really though your new health care reform does nothing more than bail out the insurance companies. You either buy insurance or pay a fine. Of course for those who cannot afford it they will get help come 2014.

Raist

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Most likely she is. But I bet she is also viewing it from within a retirement home as I am sure her family gave up on her.

Raist

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They raised their rates last year, because they knew the new laws would take effect this year. Its illegal for them to do it now without it causing them bad headaches.

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But they still raised them right? They got away with it; they got what they wanted and what they were promised. They line the pockets on both sides both Rep. and Dem. You cannot deny that.

Obama is just another player in the game. He is a puppet to those pulling his strings.

Raist

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Yes, they did raise them while it was still legal for them to do so. And i do believe there was alot more benefits to the bill than just the insurance companies getting richer. they've been doing that for years anyway like all other corporations. Just curious, have you ever needed to have some major surgery done with no job or insurance?Or are you a wealthy guy who has a great job with awesome insurance? I'm not saying this bill is the way I would have done it, But it helps out the folks that get sick and are struggling. If they take a little more FICA out of my checks for me to have that, so be it.

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Wealthy? Hardly. I have a job with some garbage insurance that keeps getting worse while I pay more every year.

I do though have family that are self employed and paying a crap load of cash for even worse insurance that this bill will not help until 2014. Until then they still will need to buy garbage insurance until their help kicks in.

Of course they could opt out of buying it and then not pay the fines go to jail and get free healthcare.

I am not against healthcare if that is what you are getting at I am against people being force federally to buy a product service they might not be able to afford or wish to buy.

Think of the liberties that are being stepped on with that. If you think the insurance companies were getting paid before they will be making huge amounts now. Sounds like a scam to me.

Raist

And you're right, they do line the pockets of the politicians. The whole system is rotten to the core. But i guess I'm just trying to add a little Yin to the yang here. I guess my point is after 8 years of seeing Bush 2 cater to the wealthiest 1 percent of the nation for 8 years, Its a nice thing to see a president try to do some things for those of us who have never had a whole lot of money. We're not all crackheads and welfare recipients buddy.

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That is just it though. While on the outside it might look like he is helping those who really need it, you can look at the inside and see who he is really helping.

It sure is not the average Joe or even the poor. This change we have gotten is no different than the “change” we have received for the past decades. I pay nearly ¼ my income on health insurance every week for family coverage plus dental. My coverage still sucks. Now those that I know that already struggle to buy insurance have gotten no real help.

This is not health care reform so much as it is insurance bailout with another name. As you said the whole system is corrupt from the top down.

Raist

abcnews.go.com/Health/HealthCare/health...post-record-profits/story?id.

www.medpagetoday.com/Washington-Watch/Washington.../18451

www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=2405338


These are just a few sites talking of the insurance companies making record profits in the billions. It does'nt sound like they needed bailing out and were doing just fine raping the public of money and not paying for procedures. It seems to me they were the last ones wanting this to pass. Everybody agreed we needed to do something, just noone agreed on what. I'm forced to buy and pay for all kinds of things not in the constitution. Your "crappy" insurance can no longer raise their premiums and give you the same coverage. Since you have insurance, come 2014 you will not be made to buy any (providing you still have a job by then). Unless you make a good 200,000 a year you won't be paying any higher taxes. Your FICA might go up a bit, like mine will probably go from 3.5 percent to 5 percent. But ultimately, I see more good out of this than harm.

Sorry, I don't know how to embed the links yet, just copy-paste em in your browser.

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Just curious what else does the federal government force you to buy?

Off the top of my head I cannot think of anything that the federal government forces me to buy.

Raist

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Medicare and Medicaid are a few things that are automatically taken out of any paycheck. Not to mention Social Security which will be gone for sure by the time I turn 65. I'm not recieving any benefits from it, but I still have to pay it. Income tax is something nowhere in the constitution, yet it's something else I'm required to pay for. If I have a car I'm required to buy insurance for it(I know that it is supposed to be possible to not have a car and therefore not pay insurance on it, but if you're a working/family man as you say I'm sure you would agree that it's very unfeasable to just not have a car). I really think the next big media circus to come up is the passage of this "public option". If you're working and have insurance(even if it's crappy) then you're fine. If you can afford it, you have to buy it. If you're too poor for it, it will be provided. I just would like to know how they will decide the guidelines for how much income you have to make to be eligable.

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Medicaid, Medicare, and S.S. are nothing but taxes that I give to the government, they are not a service I am forced to buy. I pay a lot of different taxes, not a service I would be forced to buy.


As for car insurance, you bring up a good point. Until the other day I would have agreed with you. But I asked the question and got it answered. Driving a car is not really a right it is a privilege, which is why we must apply for a license to do so. I have never disagreed with that stance.

Now though what I was informed of when I brought up the subject is that the car insurance thing is mandated by the state government not the federal government. So at that point the argument dies, it is no longer valid as it has nothing to do with the federal government forcing me to buy anything. Secondly back to my original point if you chose not to drive a car you do not have to buy insurance for said car, again making that argument null and void.


I would still like to know though how this is going to help my family members who struggle to buy their coverage now when they will not get help buying it until 2014?

Raist

Also I forgot to add that Medicaid, Medicare, and S.S. are government backed programs, thus I understand the taxes in them even though I am not using them.

This bill makes people buy from private companies. Private vs. government backed. They are two different things. Like trying to call oranges apples.


Raist

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Being forced to buy something and being forced to pay taxes that do not pertain to you. Are they not two sides of the same coin? Would you be this upset about it if they took a healthcare tax out of your paycheck? And if the state government rather than the federal government had passed this(since they're the ones that require you to have car insurance) would you not be so upset about it?And as far as "choosing" not to have a car, the system is just not set up that way for the vast majority of the population. It is POSSIBLE that I could sell my house in the country, move into some roach motel in town and quit my traveling job and start working at Wal-mart or something. But that would be an ignorant thing for me to do. It's alot easier to take out a loan on a good vehicle, pay registration fees, inspection fees, title and license fees and slap full coverage on it.

Since you never answered whether or not you have ever gotten really sick and needed care without the almighty insurance card, i'll assume you haven't. It's a nightmare. You can forget about making an appointment at a regular doctor anywhere. They simply will not take you unless you give them a policy number over the phone. Which I think is a big reason why emergency room visits have skyrocketed over the years for fairly trivial problems. I developed skin cancer when I was 29. A very aggresive form of it. It started as a small lesion behind my ear and quickly grew. My dermatologist took it off, did a biopsy on it and told me it was nodular melanoma. She also said since it was in a very bad spot and so aggressive, it could have been spreading through my lymph system to my brain, lungs, stomach, liver etc. getting quick treatment ASAP at M.D. Anderson in Houston was a must. She recommended I in no way see any Louisiana doctors because most of them had no real equipment or techniques for these things. She managed to get me an appointment the next week. When I called them, they wanted my insurance policy and deductable paid before anything else. I stayed in Houston 4-6 weeks going through tests to make sure the cancer had not spread, as well as surgery to remove the tumor and radiation therapy after that. Theres a fairly new scan they use called a PET scan. it basically checks your body for abnormal cells like cancer to make sure the tumor has'nt spread. I had to wait almost a week for my insurance company to aprove the test. They finally said no because it was not required for treatment of the tumor. I finally had to pay 8k out of pocket for the test. Wiped out what little bit of 401k I had been working on. But I wanted to know for sure that the cancer had not spread. Isn't that a little crazy to you? insurance companies dictating to the doctors what is and is not viable? When I hear people talk about "death panels" it makes me laugh. Insurance companies have been deciding who lives and dies for years now. Anyways, I do shudder to think what would have happened if I had no insurance at all. Two of my best friends father died of skin cancer a few years ago. He had no insurance because he was on disability, so he went to the local health clinic. The doctor told him that the little lesion on his jaw was a ringworm and nothing more, gave him some ointment to put on it. a few weeks later it had gotten way bigger, he went back, they gave him some more ointment to put on it. A month later it was bleeding and spreading rapidly, they finally decided to do a biopsy on it. When it came back cancerous they tried to cut it out and give him chemo and all that but by then it was too late. 3 months after he had gotten the "ringworm" he was dead with half his face eaten off. If he had insurance, he could have gone to a dermatologist like I did and went to a good hospitol for treatment like I did. Instead he had to go to the health clinic where all the doctors are the

ones who made D's in med school. The insurance companies can no longer run amok and do as they please. They now have to pay 80 percent of the money they take in for premiums on health related services instead of making profit, profit, and more profit. They cannot unexpectedly raise your premiums nor can they drop you if you contract cancer or aids or some other expensive to treat disease. They also cannot dictate to the doctors what they will and will not pay for. If you need an angioplasty done, and you had a stroke previously they cannot just say no because its a pre-existing condition. All of these I think are good parts of the bill. It is not what I would hav done nor is it perfect by any means, I think it does need some changes, but I think it's a good start. as for the whole 2014 scenario, I'm really interested to see how they plan on making people that aren't covered through work or too poor to afford it buy insurance. I'm thinking 4 years is a long time for a lot of stuff to happen who knows.

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