PROOF of reverse racism in South Africa - This is getting Ugly...

Originally posted by cenpuppie

Come on man! You know just as well as i do that the same thing happens with reversed skin color. A black kid in a majority white school will face the same criticisms and hostilities as a white kid in a majority black school.

I'd like to see the evidence of this. It's simply not true. I'm sure we'll find a minority of these situations, it certainly isn't the norm. However, a white kid being physically brutalized and mentally traumatized in a black school is the norm and represents the majority.

Eugene Terblanche has been killed on his farm. Apparently he was hacked to death while he slept over a wage dispute.

news.bbc.co.uk...

So this has to be the highest profile farm killing yet. I don't think that anyone should shed a tear for this man and to be honest I'm surprised that he wasn't murdered years ago but I can see this being used to stir up racial tension by both sides.

Not good.

[edit on 4-4-2010 by RMFX1]

Give it 20 years and South Africa will have self destructed just like Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

AIDs will take its toll and many companies are already leaving for Australia.

As the mining dies because of mismanagement and the blacks take more control the country will fall into a dieing free fall to the point of civil war.

Then foreign powers will come in like China and take control by supplying both sides in civil wars till no one is in real power.

This will happen not only in South Africa but all over southern Africa.

There is also tensions between Muslim Africa and Christen Africa that will cause even more wars supported by the Muslim middle eastern countries and china supporting Christen Africans just to control the resource wealth of Africa.

reply to post by da_ruse


The party that I was referring to (the quote I gave about Malema's nonsense) was a black party, and I believe they were a different section within the ANC..It could have been another party but the colors I remember surrounding them were yellow, black and green. It was on e-news a while back.

As for my statement about Malema threatening to murder Zuma- I apologize, I was mistaken. I based my claim from memory about the facebook comment but the memory was incorrect- it was the person who wrote the comment who said- "Malema is our leader, he will kill Zuma within the next six weeks."
So, I must apologize again for that...it was not the words of Zuma himself.

Otherwise, I love my town & I love our country for the country- I cannot say much for those in charge but I will never leave this Country for any reason... I like the fact that we still have a lot of nature to surround us & that we do not really live in a concrete jungle as of yet.

But I will say this- after watching the news carefully, and observing all the different black governmental parties of South Africa, I am reminded that they do not all come from the same place- many of them are from completely different cultures and therefore cannot be put into the same basket as Julius Malema...so many of them despise him for what he is doing to us, trying to separate us once again. What makes me upset is all the work of the last 20 odd years that he is throwing down the drain, he is opening up old wounds about racism that all of us are trying to get over.

Thanks for your contribution to this thread, much appreciated!

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So, you think it's all because they're black, ST?

Please, enlighten me further.

reply to post by December_Rain

Originally posted by December_Rain

Originally posted by jinx880101
reply to post by Gemwolf

 

In my town, Hermanus- a while back the municipal workers went on strike. Not only did they parade the streets, but they ripped open rubbish bags and threw them over peoples lawns and porches....the main roads into and in town were covered in rubbish. I was so scared... They surrounded peoples cars, the list goes on.

Pictures/ links or it didn't happen. Seriously if you are going to put in wild claims back up with something the only link to Facebook you have provided has been proven as fake. If you think my reaction to your post is harsh then perhaps you don't realise racists are generally frowned upon. Sorry but you have lost all credibility with the fake Facebook link and your racist post (disguised as concern) which I fell for for a few minutes.

Well, I was there and sorry that I didn't jump at the chance to take a picture...Never thought I would need to show it to anyone as 'proof'. This is the first time I've brought it up since then. Luckily, hundreds of others that live in this town experienced it...plus it was on the news that evening.

I really couldn't care less what you think...about me or my motives. You can call me a racist and whatever else you want. But I know the truth and I know who I am.

It's a shame that you can't see my concern. The point I am trying to make in this thread is that Malema is undoing years of progress these two races have made so far concerning racism.

I know the term is a stupid one- I fully agree that racism is racism. The thing is, 'reverse racism' is a term I have picked up on this site and used it to provide clarity for the title as to the nature of what is happening in this country. People generally see racism as whites against black. So I thought I should just make it clear in the title that this thread is not about that.
Obviously it was a mistake I will not make again.

Pitty you cant see past any of that, and what is really happening here, in this country. I do not expect that you understand either.

[edit on 23/01/2010 by jinx880101]

www.africancrisis.co.za...

This website has a lot of information regarding murders of white farmers.

It doesn't matter what your political opinions are. Murders and torture are still murders and torture.

reply to post by cenpuppie


- Greece is broke, and has only narrowly avoided an IMF Bailout that would have embarassed the entire EU
- Iceland had it's legs kicked out from under it badly so badly it was sad.
- The UK is up in arms every other day about corruptiot of it's officials
Italy, Spain and Poland are all suffering from big brain and labour loss as citizens migrate to other EU zones seeking better economic climates.
Many of the American members of this forum make it sound as if they are on the verge of some kind of revolution (which I doubt)
-Italy, France, Germany and the UK are all battling with refugee problems.
-Russia still has border conflicts, independance conflicts, resource conflicts and it's own special branch of "the war on terror"

South Africa is not the only country fighting to keep its assets out of bad management.

I was thinking about the death of Eugene Terblanche this morning and concluded that it must be a direct result of Malema's publicity of the singing of "shoot the boer." Terblanche was a generaly reviled figure amongst both black and white but due to the outspoken nature of his agenda he was a always a bit too well known and the AWB (Afrikaners With Bullets, or Afrikaners without Brains) was still feared in their stronghold towns of the free state.

If It is just an independant attack without any links to Malema I certainly think he influenced the attackers.

I must wonder too if Malema might not have had a hand in marking him though in order to send a messsage (Remember this is a conspiracy site)

It was a bold move in either scenario, and Terblanche was the Archetpye of a Boer in the minds of many South Africans. But it worries me because my dad lives on a game farm and is constantly tracking, chasing or arresting poachers and has had his share of threats. If they'll go after ET on his own farm....


To those who predict doom and gloom. I remember you all shouting the same thing in 94. Give it a rest. It won't happen because people like Gemwolf, Artificium,cenpuppie, myself and hordes of other people won't let it.

No one is saying we don't still have race issues, banana republic wanabee's and many other issues. But we have come a long way and we are going in right direction (kinda).And there are many people who will fight for the right determination of South Africa. First in bussiness, education and the courts, then the civil movements. And if it ever came down to it they would fight with a whole lotta fight to preserve their right to live and prosper there.

I don't think i'm going to post on this thread again, I can see now that it's going to exhaust me.
It's already starting to look like the same old argument between those who see potential because they truly love the country and it's people, and those who either can't adapt or don't have a clue all-together.
And I thought the thread was about Malema and his race rhetotric. I was wrong, it's about opinions and other peoples race rhetoric.

As the ILuvSA site states. I love me country but Hate my government.

Originally posted by jinx880101
But I will say this- after watching the news carefully, and observing all the different black governmental parties of South Africa, I am reminded that they do not all come from the same place- many of them are from completely different cultures and therefore cannot be put into the same basket as Julius Malema...so many of them despise him for what he is doing to us,

trying to separate us once again

. What makes me upset is all the work of the last 20 odd years that he is throwing down the drain, he is opening up old wounds about racism that all of us are trying to get over.

NWO.

Divide and rule;

Cause psychological warfare, using race, religion any idea that comes to hand that people feel strongly about.

Create a martyre.

Mineral rich, strategically important South Africa.

Turned in upon itself once more.

I was born at Cape Town, and sometimes, my heart aches for South Africa, for what I think she is to the Globalists' agenda.

ALL IS CLASS WAR.

Julius Melemba is one of the Globalists' idiot puppets.

reply to post by teapot


You have a good point. Makes me wonder- if this does get out of hand, which of the worlds major countries are going to step in and 'save' us in exchange for our resources....?

As another member mentioned about China- They do have a lot of interest in our country, at the moment they are funding big roadworks projects and investing a lot of money in our country.

reply to post by da_ruse

I was thinking about the death of Eugene Terblanche this morning and concluded that it must be a direct result of Malema's publicity of the singing of "shoot the boer." Terblanche was a generaly reviled figure amongst both black and white but due to the outspoken nature of his agenda he was a always a bit too well known and the AWB (Afrikaners With Bullets, or Afrikaners without Brains) was still feared in their stronghold towns of the free state.

What a coincidence, I was watching that old documentary last night "Louis Theroux Weird Weekends - South Africa" in which Eugene Terblanche was featured a great deal. They concluded the documentary with a follow up on Mr. Terblache- back then he was imprisoned for 6 years for attempted murder to one of his farm workers.... Kinda creepy that he was murdered the night I watched the documentary. I've had it on my PC for yonks, and last night was the first time I decided to give it a squiz. The man was a pretty hectic extremist though that does not vindicate his perpetrators.

I agree with you that this is a direct result of Malema's instigating...

I don't know if you've seen this, but here is a letter from Steve Hofmeyer to Julius Malema.

Dear Julius

As of today I withdraw my former World Cup enthusiasm with active endorsements of all warnings to potential visitors until your leadership rebuke you as we see fit.

Tomorrow, after you’ve shot the Boere you will still be a pitiful black African living in denial of your own impotence parading as a fake achiever without contributing to the world a single original idea.

Yours is mere envy disguised as hatred as nothing you say, wear, drive and steal alas, even your idiocy, is a luxury born of this continent. You must appeal to base sentiment as Africa has yet to yield a single intellectual, a single thought school, a single intellectual thought not inspired by the very West you and Mugabe detest.

You have been a phony from the day you set out to champion a defiance from a period you we not even born. You are still consuming from that productive era living in the lap of luxury thanks to the taxes of the very people you want to shoot, the only tribe to sacrifice a third of its population to breath in the African air.

In history South Africans will choose to forget you when the only thing you should be remembered for is you share in the falling short of a brilliant idea: a working South Africa.

You are a black man. To be proud you must pander to white ideas: you must drive cars, live in expensive hotels, wear suits, be Christian, do unions, be Communist, wear wigs, speak English and play soccer. Although I know better, you will enforce the stereotype of how Africans are globally viewed... with pity.

Steve Hofmeyr

fromtheold.com...

Pretty strong letter.

I agree with him 100%.

[edit on 23/01/2010 by jinx880101]

reply to post by cenpuppie

Come on man! You know just as well as i do that the same thing happens with reversed skin color. A black kid in a majority white school will face the same criticisms and hostilities as a white kid in a majority black school.

No, it these physical attacks do not happen to blacks in majority white schools, and these things don't go on in other schools dominated by other groups.

The only difference would be social economic. Expect the poorer kids to resort to violence more commonly...even though rich folks will do it too.

There are more poor white kids in the U.S. than black, and white poverty areas do not have nearly the same amount of violence, nor do other groups, except the Hispanics.

The problem is the self pity taught by the school systems, the media, and liberal philosophy that loves to pour on the white guilt.

Time to stop the nonsense.

"Give it 20 years and South Africa will have self destructed just like Rhodesia/Zimbabwe."

We heard this in 1994.

Whites still live a privilaged life in SA, the lifestyle and opportunities they have here are not to be found in any other part of the world.

As a South African i believe that some sections of the whites community really want to see the country fail.

A few things to add if i may.

In South Africa, municipal strikes are famous for destruction of property, and the liberal emptying of any and all rubbish into the streets. I could wax lyrical about walking through Johannesburg CBD with a solid layer of trash underfoot, the entire length and breadth of every single road. It stank too. If you're unfortunate enough to be caught by the marching masses, you will very likely have your car rocked or damaged, and certainly they will make you scared of them.

I think this is a "given" in South Africa, when they march, you go the other way, it's easy because they make a LOT of noise.

My personal vew on ET being nailed was it was inevitable. that man, in this country, at this time. The 15 year old who was arrested for the murder well, the kid was working at 15, says a lot really. The older man with him, who knows? Hunger does a lot to one. But this same event is playing out daily. It feels that every day you read about ANOTHER massacre, gawds how many families massacred do you read about in your papers? Ive read about 5 last week.

The bits that i've read of local news show that people don't care too much. He's not worth getting into a fight over. But the larger issue is coming to the fore, in the inter-tribal war that is southern africa, the white tribe now finally have their backs to a wall.

Regarding schooling, my kids are white kids in the neighbourhood school, it's 3 blocks away (i stay in a nice neighbourhood). Children are bussed in from soweto, and further afield, to fill the classes to a maximum 45 kids per class. They each have 1 white schoolmate in their class, the rest are black, or coloured. There are no other schools allowed to my children, save private, which we cannot afford.

They are regularly bullied, and are called "white cockroaches". I don't have pictures or facebook links, but that is reality for many. They are told in school by their friends that julius malema is cool. This is primary school.

South Africa is a very strange place.

I know it's been done to death but I was just going over this same article I read the other day. It has probably already been posted as a source but here is an excerpt from an article by the sunday times titled Malema lauds Bob says SA will copy Zims land seizures

"In SA we are just starting. Here in Zimbabwe you are already very far. The land question has been addressed. We are very happy that today you can account for more than 300000 new farmers against the 4000 who used to dominate agriculture. We hear you are now going straight to the mines. That's what we are going to be doing in South Africa," Malema said amid cheers. "We want the mines. They have been exploiting our minerals for a long time. Now it's our turn to also enjoy from these minerals. They are so bright, they are colourful, we refer to them as white people, maybe their colour came as a result of exploiting our minerals and perhaps if some of us can get opportunities in these minerals we can develop some nice colour like them."

Source
As I said before, I feel South Africa will eventually overcome this too. But I hope people now see the inteligence level of this Germ.
Bear in mind he does have huge support.

Jinx, I hope this will shut up a lot of the people who thought you were being racist just because of your concern.

If it wasn't for me not being in SA right now and this clown screwing with the farmers I would find this hillarious.

[edit on 6-4-2010 by da_ruse]

one of your leaders taking 'lessons' from zimbabwe is like taking human rights lessons from North Korea... bad times ahead...

Thats the worst part. He doesn't even hold any real office. The ANC Youth League isn't even technically part of the ANC governing body.
-But he has the populast support. His policy is not the same as the ANC's, the problem exists because the ANC has remained largely silent on his behavior.
Silence brings consent.


[edit on 6-4-2010 by da_ruse]

Originally posted by Gemwolf

If you flee, then they've won. England, Canada and the USA don't want you, and New Zealand or Australia might take you - but in the end you'll never feel welcome or at home. You are as much an African as a Zulu, Xhosa or San. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Sorry, got to comment on this before I continue reading this thread.

Britain, not England, will always welcome genuine refugees, especially those that have something positive to offer our society and those from The Commonwealth who have steadfastly been loyal to us.

We, unlike some, do not turn our backs on our friends!

It's quite possible that I'll have more to say as I catch up on this thread but I would like to take the opportunity to say that South Africa is doomed if it continues on it's current course, for a comparison just look at Zimbabwe.

reply to post by jinx880101


its not REVERSE racisim

its just rasisim...

just because the people who are NOT black are the ones getting picked on, does not make it reverse rasisim, thats like saying racisim only exists when its black people getting crap for their color.

to be fair, most white south africans deserve what they get, their decended from b***tards and for the most ARE b++stards.

reply to post by Freeborn



Well Thank you for the comment about the commonwealth. If you are not white on this kind of forum you do feel it when they start barking about the black threat. SOme should realise that not all whites are the same NOR ARE ALL BLACKS.

Anyway there is a political problem that is faced in both countries. Having campaigned for victor how should the mass of the electorate who campaigned
for change be treated? In the case of Zimbabwe it was a bush war that was won. What Mugabe knows is that he is riding a hungry tiger.

THe ANC was a terrorist organisation in the minds of the deluded neo cons who had their own agenda. They were never involved in a bush war.

None the less the majority want change. For my money Terrblanche should never have been murdered obnoxious old fart that he was. He should not have been murdered because I would never give the AWB a chance to dig up his carcass and use him as a martyr. Also I was not prepared to pull the trigger or swing the machete.

I note that Malema has finally been muzzled. Good thing if what he was spouting was true.