Ann Coulter speech cancelled after thousands protest

reply to post by Duzey

I'm asking you how it can happen, not accusing you of doing it, and was addressing it to you since you as a moderator have more knowledge and (presumably) power as to how things work here. I saw it with my own eyes and apparently other people saw it too, though my star count on that particular post is up again - I saw one of my comments go from two stars to one. I'm not hung up on getting stars...I'm concerned when I see things like that happen though.

Let her speak, then let someone get up there and fact-check her ranting, while she has to stand there and take it. Oh, I would pay to see that!!! Then let the crowd have her.

reply to post by ChrisCrikey


I didn't see it happen, and I don't know how it could. It's not something I know how to do.

If anyone would care to discuss this further, it really should be by complaint or maybe the ATS issues thread. I'd mention that this is actually off topic to the discussion we're having in this thread, but I can't do that because then I'd be moderating in it and I wouldn't be allowed to post in it as a member anymore.

nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean?

I really would like to participate as a member on this thread. Pretty please?

reply to post by drwizardphd


Agreed with everything you said. Well put. It's not easy to say what "common sense" really means anymore.

ColoradoJens

In my opinion the two nations pretty much mirror the end of Orwell's "Animal Farm". And despite it being trendy in Canada to stress the 'differences' between the two nations, the same old trash lies just beneath the surface. Canadians are no worse than the American people, no, but neither are they morally superior in any way either.


Coulter and her views should have been allowed to be expressed and the people should have been allowed to draw their own conclusions as to any validity her words carried. This shouldn't be a PROUD moment for Canada...it should actually be one of shame. DESPITE how one feels about Coulter, this was clear and absolute intolerance and should be condemned, not applauded.

Sign of the times I guess. My father worked this division of the RCMP back in the 80's. They even had JP2 across the country and were able to guarantee his safety. The world has changed.

On topic, EVERYBODY knew what she was going to do. She was invited anyways. What's the beef as far as "free speech" goes? And to my American friends, I've heard the saying, "Your rights end where mine begin". BINGO, couldn't have put it better. Remember, your Amendments end with your borders. You have no right to diss anyone on what you have heard. Secondly, how do you know what is better? Your eyes are hidden with an old sheet of paper.

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reply to post by Clark Savage Jr.


I am very proud of my fellow citizens for this action.

People exercised their rights to stand against something they didn't like and look what happened...it stopped.

I think you are focusing more on the fact that the speech was cancelled and forgetting that it was her security people who cancelled it. Take a look at the big picture for a moment...there are two things missing from this story:

1) Were her security personel from Canada or the US? Canadians are overwhelmingly non-violent as a rule so there really was no reason for this to be cancelled (other than to save her precious ego from having to see that people disagree with her)

2) If she was truely committed to her best-selling beliefs why didn't she insist on speaking anyways? If her message is that important then her personal safety should have been irrelevant compared to getting the word out.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if she was the one who decided to cancel the engagment herself instead of having to be accountable for her views: She saw that she was not going to be warmly welcomed and decided not to bother.

No, all Canadians should be very proud of this event: We took a stand against intolerance and hatred. Just like the US, we are a country of immigrants. Unlike the US, our government is trying to get us to live together in peace instead of playing us off against each other.

The people of Canada have decided that we will not tolerate this type of garbage, apparently you choose to wallow in it.

Morally superior?

Absolutely.

[edit on 23-3-2010 by [davinci]]

I'm sorry but knowing how stupid liberal college kids protest, and how mean spirited they are. and lets face it nobody gives a crap what a 19 year old thinks about anything.
plus I'm sure there professors had something to do with this assembly.

Ann Coulter feeds on the hate.
It fuels her book sales and talk shows with the most extreme mentally disturbed simpletons of society. Her dollars are like a double tax on the obscenely ignorant of society.

And here I wasn't going to dignify a thread with her as the focal point. The best way to kill a monster like this is to simply ignore her.

Well done Canada...but it would have been better if she was completely ignored...no protests, no students sitting and watching, just let her sit in a empty room talking her crap.

reply to post by kommunist


Good for her. She sell a bunch of books.

This kind of childish behavior is typical of the left and college students. Why not actually try to engage her in a discussion? She'd rip the bark off those "students" thats why.

Canadians should be ashamed of their hate speech laws. Although used as a guise to direct you what not to say, hate speech laws are really about training you what to think or not to think. Any free thinking person should be opposed to hate speech laws. The best way to discredit something is to confront it openly

Originally posted by dolphinfan
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Good for her. She sell a bunch of books.

This kind of childish behavior is typical of the left and college students. Why not actually try to engage her in a discussion? She'd rip the bark off those "students" thats why.

Canadians should be ashamed of their hate speech laws. Although used as a guise to direct you what not to say, hate speech laws are really about training you what to think or not to think. Any free thinking person should be opposed to hate speech laws. The best way to discredit something is to confront it openly

She would rip what kinda bark? Coulter in a "discussion"? That's rich.

CJ

reply to post by ColoradoJens

Good for her. She sell a bunch of books.

This kind of childish behavior is typical of the left and college students. Why not actually try to engage her in a discussion? She'd rip the bark off those "students" thats why.

No she wouldn't. If confronted, she would resort to childish name calling with anyone who disagreed with views.

If this is your idea of her "rip the bark off those students", then I agree:

When answering questions from students, Coulter told a 17-year-old Muslim student to "take a camel" instead of the flying carpet she has previously suggested Muslims use for transportation. Coulter later told CTV that the "camel" remark was a joke.

Yeah right.

Ignorance at its finest.

This is Canada, we don't put up with this kind of crap.


[edit on 24-3-2010 by kommunist]

Did Coulter even appear ? Also, if she did, were rocks thrown at her ?

I ask because I promised in another thread I'd send a slab of beer to Canada if rocks were thrown at her...I just wanna know if I'm gonna be out 40 bucks + shipping

Edit to add - Congrats to Canadians for using their right to free speech with maximum effect and denying this ignorant, hateful piece of trash the opportunity to spew her garbage...

[edit on 24-3-2010 by Retrovertigo]

Ah yes, liberals the voice for tolerance and freedom of speech.

But only if it fits in their narrow window of beliefs.

Sooo,,,,,,,, 1000 people wanting to throw rocks at someone is not a hate crime , but political sarcasm is ? I love Canada but this is just strange to me . www.vancouversun.com...

Originally posted by jjkenobi
Ah yes, liberals the voice for tolerance and freedom of speech.

But only if it fits in their narrow window of beliefs.

From my perspective, are the teabaggers not encouraged to disrupt the Town Halls that they...attend? Don't some insist on their right to bear arms at political rallies? So if a Democrat legislator takes a pass on continuing because he/she feels threatened or the meeting has been hijacked...is that not a 'victory' for the right?

Sorry Sparky...Coulter was warned to keep her speech within our concept of hate laws, and her talk was pre-empted by protests...free speech. You can't have it both ways.

Incidentally...those hate speech laws? We have a cultural mosaic where diversity is celebrated...not a melting pot. We don't allow one group to spew hatred for another. It's not censorship...it's legislated 'getting along', because some folks are too stoopid to do it on their own.

Originally posted by tigpoppa
Anne Coulter is a visonairy who speaks truth to power!

also as a BESTSELLING writer she has broken the mold with her revolutionary writing style that has created a perfect storm for the democratic party.

This is just PROOF that Canadians hate FREEDOM! They denied Anne COulter an AMERICAN the right so speak!!! Lets hope their communist ways dont reach us and that the white light of liberty can protect us!

[edit on 23-3-2010 by tigpoppa]

I'm sorry but I MUST disagree with you here. Being a freedom loving American and former republican, I must admit that it is people like Anne, Bush, Cheney and others that have completely turned me cold to the republican party. Now it wasn't the protesters that prevented her right to speak. It was the school that decided her safety was in question. Granted, that can be seen as you have stated it but it isn't the same. They protested her because of her lies my friend. If you can't see that she has lied or at least stretched the truth to benefit her and her parties extreme views then all that we will say against her will fall on deaf ears.

Research many of her points and find out just how much she has twisted things up. She is just as bad the Hannity's and Maddow's of the world. They always twist the truth to favor their party instead of just telling the truth in a plain and exposed mannner. Which in many cases is right down the middle. Where the bulk of the population of this country fall.

Originally posted by ZombieOctopus

Originally posted by Subjective Truth
To Canadians free speech means that if hey agree with it is free and if it could cause anger or if the TPTB disagree with it is now against the law. And the population feeds on it and uses it to stifle free speech.


I don't agree with her but I do think she should have a voice. Were do you draw the line and who draws it. Free speech should be free no matter who it offends. Canadians are really starting to show there true colors and I for one don't like what I see. Progressives I guess have won in Canada hopefully we can stop the spread in America before we are on our knees like them.

You're free to have a voice in Canada, as long as it's not hateful, and there is a line, go find the exact laws if you like and they lay out what hate speech consists of.

I hate to break it to you, but Canadians pride themselves on being a progressive people, we're proud of our progressive values. No ones on their knees here that's for sure!

A form of deafness. "hatefull" becomes a silencer of the consicence a form of "truth" that will spread in time like a rot on your liberties. The seed of oppression.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by jjkenobi
Ah yes, liberals the voice for tolerance and freedom of speech.

But only if it fits in their narrow window of beliefs.

From my perspective, are the teabaggers not encouraged to disrupt the Town Halls that they...attend? Don't some insist on their right to bear arms at political rallies? So if a Democrat legislator takes a pass on continuing because he/she feels threatened or the meeting has been hijacked...is that not a 'victory' for the right?

Sorry Sparky...Coulter was warned to keep her speech within our concept of hate laws, and her talk was pre-empted by protests...free speech. You can't have it both ways.

Incidentally...those hate speech laws? We have a cultural mosaic where diversity is celebrated...not a melting pot. We don't allow one group to spew hatred for another. It's not censorship...it's legislated 'getting along', because some folks are too stoopid to do it on their own.

Very well put. A view that most on either extreme of the spectrum seem unable to grasp. Anne is a spewer of hate filled words like many of the liberal speakers. Like many of the other conservative speakers *cough...Rush....*. It's a matter of free speech that these protestors used in order to win what they felt was a victory.

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So who defines hate speech in the People's Republic of Canada?

I shouldn't pick on Canada, when we have the exact opposite going on here. One of our local universities has hired a terrorist to be the keynote speaker at one of it's events for Graduate students. Here's a man who got away with placing bombs in public institutions and killing a Police officer, but, is forgiven because his Socialistic views are in agreement with the current regime. I'd like to run him out of town on a rail, but, his right to free speech is protected.