Alan Keyes was right. We are headed for Civil War.

Sorry, but there are people in the US that just aren't going to take well to being told to get health insurance, or else.


Here's the link. Video won't embed for some suspicious reason. www.youtube.com...

This isn't about black, white or conservative or liberal, male or female.

It's about the government, against the people. The government wants God like control over it's people. Yes, the government believes they own us.

What they don't understand is the people who DON'T work for the government are KINGS in this country.

Keep pushing US into the corner. Be careful what you wish for.

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Originally posted by 911stinks
Sorry, but there are people in the US that just aren't going to take well to being told to get health insurance, or else

You may be right, but that will be a exceptionally small fringe group of "radicals"...and what are they going to do anyhow? complain while paying anyhow?

Either they will be just some complaining people on the sidelines doing what they complain about...or they will take action and end up in prison..which will of course give them free government run healthcare anyhow.

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by 911stinks
Sorry, but there are people in the US that just aren't going to take well to being told to get health insurance, or else

You may be right, but that will be a exceptionally small fringe group of "radicals"...and what are they going to do anyhow? complain while paying anyhow?

The loser always underestimates his opponent.

Why would the "people" revolt against a health care bill that will give the people protection against greedy insurance companies raking in billions while letting people and children die? They won't!

The only ones that will start a civil war are the brain controlled insurance corporation zombies that Fox News and others have created. You know what? There aren't enough of them. There will be no civil war, it's illegal in the first place.

Originally posted by damwel
Why would the "people" revolt against a health care bill that will give the people protection against greedy insurance companies raking in billions while letting people and children die? They won't!

The only ones that will start a civil war are the brain controlled insurance corporation zombies that Fox News and others have created. You know what? There aren't enough of them. There will be no civil war, it's illegal in the first place.

The war was started on 9-11, 2001.

People are becoming more and more aware of the false flag events designed to herd the people into a corral, so they can easily be branded, tagged and vaccinated.

The Useless Eaters are fixin to stampede.

Originally posted by damwel
Why would the "people" revolt against a health care bill that will give the people protection against greedy insurance companies raking in billions while letting people and children die? They won't!

The only ones that will start a civil war are the brain controlled insurance corporation zombies that Fox News and others have created. You know what? There aren't enough of them. There will be no civil war, it's illegal in the first place.

If this is the case then why was Scott Brown's opponent Martha Coakley heavily supported by health insurance and big pharma corporations in Mass?

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You are correct. I enjoy when the partisan zombies start throwing around talking points of thier party.
reply to damwel:
So let's see. Mandated NEW moneies in the form of covergae to be paid to the insurance companies, gov't will do away with the most expensive treatments in order to "cut costs" ( for whom by the way?), gov't will use taxpayer money to subsidize private insurance through insurance companies, it will take 500 million from medicare to help subsidize private insurance mandates, doesn't mandate portability (which means private monopolies are still in place), removes pre-existing conditions allowing for increase in overall premiums while cutting down on procedures that could remove said ailment instead relying on ongoing treatments, cut's monies paid out to providers through gov't medicine programs + the fact that this is all wrapped up in a governmental program (aka politicians involved)= RECORD PROFITS FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES! This bill has NOTHING to do with helping anyone other than the politicians and insurance company exec's to line thier pockets at the expense of our freedom. Once again the Republicratic party has duped you again.
Edit to add: plus increased copyrights length for Big Pharma which means more income from brand name meds for a longer period. Yes those bad, bad companies are gonna be taught a lesson by our republicratic champions of America!
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Originally posted by SpectreDC

If this is the case then why was Scott Brown's opponent Martha Coakley heavily supported by health insurance and big pharma corporations in Mass?

Big Pharma supports both sides, neither is lilly white. There are shades of grey in everything you know.

The statistic that only 32 million Americans or so are not on some form of health insurance is a scam.

Walk around any town. Go to the small businesses. Their employers don't give them insurance. And do you think they can afford $300-$400 a month on a $10-$15 hr salary?

I would estimate the amount of uninsured to be 150 million or more. 1/2 the country.

Then there is about 10% that are on Medicare/Medicaid.

The rest, 40% or less, have job supplied health care.

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Sobering words, and over this last year...prophetic as well. This Novemeber elections I do believe will be our last chance at a peaceful exchange of power. I believe that if there is simply a continuation of the current status then you will see pockets of civil unrest form and sadly this is exactly what Obama wants...he will respond with marshal law...he will crack down with the control of information.

I totally agree with Alan Keyes in his opinion of Obama's intentions and motives and if nothing is done, if we as logical intelligent citizens dont stand up...run for office and replace these lunatics...there will indeed be civil war. God help us all in these dark days before us.

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Your estimations are not at all true...also yes aon a 15 hr job you can afford some insurance coverage. And if you cant there is already in place programs that fill in the gaps.

At 15 and hour you make roughly $3000 gross a month. I would say that maybe the toys, the games, the credit cards, even the cellphones need to be set aside first, and as individuals you take care of the essentials like health insurance, instead of demanding that the rest of us pay for it for you.

I am calling on you and everyone here to debate this issue of facts not on emotions or speculations.

Originally posted by 911stinks
Sorry, but there are people in the US that just aren't going to take well to being told to get health insurance, or else.

Or else what? They get a small increase in their taxes? It's not like people are going to be dragged off to prison if they don't buy insurance.

Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
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I am calling on you and everyone here to debate this issue of facts not on emotions or speculations.

This poll supports my "emotional" estimate.
homebusiness.about.com.../od/money/a/health_ins_poll.htm&poll_id=6243047085

155 people polled. 52% no insurance, 48% with some form of insurance.

911stinks:

I may be wrong but, I believe the 32 million they are referring to are
actual wage earners of a family or non wage earners of a family if
he/she is unemployed. The 150 mil you alluded to are the kids in those
families also, that make up maybe a total of 150 mil. I am sure there are
more than 32 million in total.

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Again your not reading what I said...the fact is that a person with a 15/hr job can indeed afford insurance...its called budgeting and spending wisely.

Who do you think you are to think that I should pay for your insurance? Thats my whole point. Indeed there are many out there who dont have insurance but for many thats because they choose to spend their money on other things like fun, entertainment, cell phone plans, video games...

I shouldnt have to subsidize their income with the money that I earn...I pay for my own healthcare insurance...it costs me hundreds each month to keep my family covered.

At 36,000 a year which is a 15/hr job... you should be able to get yourself covered....period.

The government shouldnt be able to make me give you money to acheieve something that you can do on your own.

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Originally posted by 911stinks
The loser always underestimates his opponent.

I know it's off-topic but it takes me to the Afghanistan operations the Iraq invasion

Originally posted by 911stinks

Originally posted by damwel
Why would the "people" revolt against a health care bill that will give the people protection against greedy insurance companies raking in billions while letting people and children die? They won't!

The only ones that will start a civil war are the brain controlled insurance corporation zombies that Fox News and others have created. You know what? There aren't enough of them. There will be no civil war, it's illegal in the first place.

The war was started on 9-11, 2001.

People are becoming more and more aware of the false flag events designed to herd the people into a corral, so they can easily be branded, tagged and vaccinated.

The Useless Eaters are fixin to stampede.

9 years out and no brand, no corral here. I guess New York is no longer part of America? Maybe the plan is to stretch it out over a few presidencies? Shock us on 9/11/01 so I can get branded in 2015 maybe?

People have been talking about civil war and revolution in America for a few years now but all that ever happens is more talk.

A few hundred years ago when people had no television and no telephones they seemed to be more prepared and quicker to bring about a change of government etc than they do now.

Too much fluoride in the water perhaps?

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On the contrary there were many of our founding fathers who were very reluctant to revolt against england. They debated the issue of reform or revolution for a number of years as colonies before they descided to kick the redcoats out.

Talk is good, as long as it leads to eventual action. We arent there yet. The system can be saved if people in our country rise up and take responsability for thems selves, not require the government to hold their hands, and vote in some people with character.

It will not happen these days, too many spineless liberals in our population who depend on government for air.

The chances of a civil war are zero, unless a state summons a militia and sponsors the movement, but any politician who supports that will be demonized by the ignorant.

It wouldn't need to be a violent civil war, and it could happen without a shot. The state must say to the Feds, our citizens stop paying your taxes. If any of your IRS agents come into our state, we will throw them out with force.