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What do you call the events of 911 if you're not a Truther?

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posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 07:22 PM
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The 911 Blooper?

What we have here is a failure to communicate, on the government’s part, wouldn’t you say?
I propose this as a linguist musician , not some physics guy , ok?
Would you be open to the philosophy of the 911 Blooper?
It’s not just some words that rhyme with 911 truther

We were lied to about events leading up to and taking place
On that dark and miserable American day
I’ve posted on one maybe two 911 threads
Here on ATS
I don’t and I probably won’t because I don’t understand
The math and science part of what goes on with this plan
But I understand enough to know that skyscraping buildings
Don’t go collapsing at no *Snip* free-fall speed

We were lied to indeed.
Lied to by the powers that be.

The last clip I saw about the guys that started the 911 truth movement
They were tearing a new *Snip* for the ABC guy and it was such an improvement
To see the wolf in sheep’s clothing, the ABC guy I mean,
Backed into a corner for once by some bad asses with passion and freedom dreams

But in the beginning it was all too extreme,
Even the guys that started this know what I mean. I was inspired by those two guys in the most recent ABC clip, they didn’t take any *Snip*. I was inspired by this, so to speak, it was their meme
And so 911 truther has BECOME a label that’s caused a scene
Though I give massive props to the people behind it, and to Mr. Sheen

I just think that it’s too much for the majority to ever say “I’m a 911 truther”
What about a philosopher of the 911 Blooper? It's a double meaning, It's double speak I mean, but the government's story is *Snip*. The blooper is they LET it happen, it was scripted and uncut. Or...

It is simply an acknowledgement inside your own mind
That the story you heard about that day, well, the truth was denied. It was revised.
And while I don’t have the cameras, angles, or the talent
To put a forth a juice news like production I DO have the mallet

Of a singer songwriter who loves to read about conspiracies
And I have a lifelong interest in philosophies
I have the ATS site and my fellow conspiracy theorists
I have you to share this idea with

You might ask yourself, why OP, don’t you just write a song about it
Believe me I will, or an album, but this is not the place for this
A song I mean, I mention or write songs or put them on ATS a lot
Because I love them, like I love truth, and like I love how the plot

To this Keeps on, it twists, and it thickens, and the criminals behind 911 will one day be shown
They will pay for their crimes for those buildings they’ve blown
And the peoples’ lives who, were left in ruins…

At least I hope the criminals will be shown…
The 911 Blooper is not meant to actually take the place,
Of the 911 truther I’m not throwing feces in any 911 truther’s face
I’m just saying that it seems like just another *Snip* label
TPTB are using to divide THAT which they fight, but are unable

To fight without causing massive amounts of division
Which kind of 911 truther is this guy? Which guy is that? He has no vision
He’s wrong about this and he’s wrong about that.
A tisket a tasket it’s all the same eggs and it’s all the same basket


Forget about the 911 Blooper, but not about the 911 truther
This has all been just a ride, but don’t worry it was the GOOD kind
The kind to open your mind.
To get you all out of your heads, just some words in some artist’s thread, coming from some artist's head

Mod Note: Profanity/Circumvention Of Censors – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 3/19/2010 by semperfortis]



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 07:57 PM
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I have you to share this idea with
Even if nobody wants to hear it



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 08:09 PM
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Wait, is this a poem? Fairly skillful.

But to answer your question... We call it a tragedy, a terrorist attack, and an example of tremendous stupidity on the part of intelligence agencies. Maybe they let it through on purpose; if I think that's a possibility, I might be a Truther technically. But, besides a few thing like that which indicate willing complacency on the part of the government, I agree with the OS. It was no false flag, and if there was a conspiracy it was only a conspiracy of inaction. I call it a Tragedy and a Terrorist attack.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Solasis
Wait, is this a poem? Fairly skillful.

But to answer your question... We call it a tragedy, a terrorist attack, and an example of tremendous stupidity on the part of intelligence agencies. Maybe they let it through on purpose; if I think that's a possibility, I might be a Truther technically. But, besides a few thing like that which indicate willing complacency on the part of the government, I agree with the OS. It was no false flag, and if there was a conspiracy it was only a conspiracy of inaction. I call it a Tragedy and a Terrorist attack.


Thank you for your compliment.
A poem in the 911 forum. Yes. That's weird I know

Sometimes I just rhyme.
Anyway, it's my 2cents.
A conspiracy of inaction is almost worse. I don't know which one's worse. I'm sure I'll put it to verse.
One of my theme's is actually realized, in what you've written in your reply. It's too hard to define.
People are lumping everyone into one big bunch.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by dragonsmusic
The 911 Blooper?


I call them what they were: the 9/11 attacks.


What we have here is a failure to communicate, on the government’s part, wouldn’t you say?


No. The 9/11 attacks did not depend on what the government said or did not say. The evidence - independent of the government - told us everything we needed to know about what happened. Whether Al Queda's attacks could have been foreseen and the government been able to prevent them are debatable questions.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by jthomas

Originally posted by dragonsmusic
The 911 Blooper?


I call them what they were: the 9/11 attacks.


What we have here is a failure to communicate, on the government’s part, wouldn’t you say?


No. The 9/11 attacks did not depend on what the government said or did not say. The evidence - independent of the government - told us everything we needed to know about what happened. Whether Al Queda's attacks could have been foreseen and the government been able to prevent them are debatable questions.



Attacks indeed. Attacks against like 3000 bodies and like tens of millions of minds. It was double blind and "they" went "all in"
But whoever "they" are "they" lost in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 08:55 PM
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You're either a 9/11 scientific truther or a crazy al-Qaeda conspiracy theorist. There's no evidence the term al-Qaeda was ever used before the WTC attacks. If you dig up news stories from the time of the Soviet occupation Bin Laden was always described as a mujaheddin freedom fighter.




posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 08:56 PM
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Something you need to investigate on your own.

And it's serious enough to do it; it does not inspire me read poetry.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Crito
You're either a 9/11 scientific truther or a crazy al-Qaeda conspiracy theorist. There's no evidence the term al-Qaeda was ever used before the WTC attacks. If you dig up news stories from the time of the Soviet occupation Bin Laden was always described as a mujaheddin freedom fighter.


That would certainly be news to Al-Qaeda:

www.gwu.edu...

www.nytimes.com...

www.pbs.org...

www.nytimes.com...

www.independent.co.uk...

tvnz.co.nz...



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 10:35 PM
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I know right? Thank you, Jthomas.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 10:36 PM
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So I'm either one or the other? lol
Just either one of those then, nothing in between? silly



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by 1SawSomeThings
reply to post by dragonsmusic
 


Something you need to investigate on your own.

And it's serious enough to do it; it does not inspire me read poetry.


It's not meant to inspire you to read poetry. I read about it a lot on ATS.
I know it's serious.



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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A terrorist attack...

That was manipulated by elements of our own government & foreign ones for the sake of political, military, economic and social reasons & ambitions.

That was a nice rhyme BTW. You definately got the wordsmith skills.

[edit on 3/19/2010 by mikelee]



posted on Mar, 19 2010 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by mikelee
A terrorist attack...

That was manipulated by elements of our own government & foreign ones for the sake of political, military, economic and social reasons & ambitions.

That was a nice rhyme BTW. You definately got the wordsmith skills.

[edit on 3/19/2010 by mikelee]


Thank you, mike

"Our own government and foreign ones for the sake of political, military, economic and social reasons and ambitions", you said.
Agreed. Such dark reasons .



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by dragonsmusic
So I'm either one or the other? lol
Just either one of those then, nothing in between? silly


The strategy of "us and them" is used to divide and conquer. Truther or OS believer, Republican or Democrat, Liberal or Conservative, it does not matter.

As long as people are busy fighting with their neighbors, those people are less likely to lift their thoughts.



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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So very true


I'd love to see a national debate on tv regarding every aspect and concern over 911. It would probably have to be held on sat or cable but it would be interesting for sure.

[edit on 3/20/2010 by mikelee]



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 07:13 PM
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I'm not sure of the definition of the word "Truther".

I don't believe the official story. I think some people in the government had prior knowledge and possibly conspired to allow the attacks to happen in order to financially and emotionally fund a war (Iraq).

Does that make me a "truther"? I don't know. I don't have a desire to make the truth come out. If it's going to stay hidden, it's going to stay hidden, no matter how much pressure the public puts on the government. But I REALLY don't believe the OS.



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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There was NO conspiracy , in 93 they tried to drive a truck full of fertilizer into the base of the towers they were stopped. These people tin foil hat time just because someone says paranoia doesnt mean its true. The buildings collapsed on themselves cause of the weight of explosions rotting out the building. Pretty soon they are going to come after you conspiracy theroists legally because 3,000+ people died, you know its not a joke or a massive consipacy WE made.



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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As I have described myself as, sounds like you are a concerned American who can tell something isn't right. I say resist the labeling and keep on asking questions!

"I'm not a truther nor a skeptic but an American who fears what my government has done and got away with it...so far"



posted on Mar, 20 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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Totally agree. That's why I've never adopted the label.

I call the events of 9/11 terrible, horrific, unbelievable and very highly suspicious.



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