America is DEAD. Accept your DEMISE with dignity and BOW to TPTB

reply to post by EMPIRE


too bad its only north america that is #ed. the rest of the world is free from the NWO, There are no crazy chem trails and poisons and soft metals in foods in other countries. travel around the world, go outside north america, feel the fresh air. life isnt over, NWO is nothing. Most ppl live full and happy lives without even knowing they are being controlled. cause news flash we arent, you let your self be controled if you are weak minded.

Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by Ansuzrune

 

What exactly did Ghandi change? Why are the people of India still limited to caste systems?

It is common knowledge now that the caste sytem has largely been eroded in India. In certain places, where the caste sytem was strongest for longest, only the the pyer-keepers along the Ganges tentatively hold onto their caste. Taking into account their immense responsibility in torching the human body until only ashes remain, it is not surprising that they should want to be a part of this ancient system.

Ghandi was a great man, and I would imagine that a great deal of Indians would find that he changed their country immensely and for the better. One man!

Cheers,
Daniel Moszkowicz.


[edit on 19-3-2010 by Daniel Moszkowicz]

Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by AlreadyGone

 

All sarcasm and wit aside... do you enjoy birds singing, a sunset, the smell of BBq cooking, maybe a nice ice cold Coke in the little green bottles? How about bacon on a cheeseburger... or some good Wagner or Aaron Copeland to wake to. Ever seen a giant herd of 3000 buffaloe? What do you live for, EMPIRE?

All of those things are experiences. However, there is nothing unique about them. You’ve listened to the cry of the crow, or the call of Hawks and? They’re all saying the same thing. You drink coke? You can have pepsi, rc or some off brand cola, it’s still cola. The sunset? Doesn’t matter if I see it when I’m in the bay area, or when I’m out of state, it’s still the same sun. Music? Only seven notes in a scale. You’re simply repeating the notes in whatever order the key and scale say you should. Buffalo? One thousand or three thousand, they are a sight to behold, but the experience is still the same.

I cannot understand this reasoning. I read the Dokkodo just now. It is sadly void of any meaning. I see that you are obviously following the teachings of this Dokkodo, but I must petition you to stop. You know what you should say? Screw the powers that be. Like you said, freedom is death. When you die, they cannot control you. Am I right? Well since death is inevitable, they have no real power over you. That's like trying to stop the sun from rising in the morning or setting in the evening. We are all going to die, and when we do, any power they think they have is gone from us. Their authority is an illusion. They, too, will one day die. Someone will take their place, sure. But we will all be long gone and nice and dead by then. So my proposition to you is this: give up the teachings in the Dokkodo and instead live life happily. I'm sure you will regret having lived such an empty life on your deathbed, which is something the Dokkodo specifically instructs you not to do. I am afraid that you will regret it, though.

You said all of those things are experience. What is anything? Any and everything is experience. Without experience life is nothing. Yet life is the only thing we have. Please, enjoy the experiences that you have every day, instead of being abstinent of any and all joy in life. If you ask, what is joy? Where is the joy? It is what you make it. You do have that power.

reply to post by Simplynoone

But you forgot one thing ...there is no hope in this world for sure but there is still a hope in the afterlife with our creator (to who are spirits came from)... through his Son Jesus Christ who is the HEIR to that Kingdom ...

Oh, my, yes. People like Pat 'The wallet' Robertson, Hinn, Et al have shown us who's getting to heaven and who isnt. The same, wonderful xtians who have robbed, fleeced, and screwed others... Why of course- Heaven's the reward of righteous greed, thievery and lies. As opposed to the rest of us.

I'm gonna sit back and have a last minute giggle while all of you are STILL sitting here, getting shot and everything else, just like the rest of us 'unwashed, unsaved masses'.

Face it- if anyone's living a lie, it's the church set- because not only are they so frigging special, Theys gots an escapes plan! By none other than the fictional deity whose bible's been rewritten more than a Bulwar- Litton manuscript during contest time- redited more than a bad movie script, and more plotholes than Manhattan has POTholes.

reply to post by AlreadyGone

No matter where you are when the sun sets, it's the same sun... that's pretty sad, man. You have no magic in your life... I feel for ya'.

No it’s not pretty sad, it is reality. The sun is the same no matter where you are on the planet. You may find it magical or romantic if you’re watching it set in Rio with your S.O., but I’m simply looking at it as a ball of energy that is going to fizzle out.

Coke vs Pepsi... not the same...both are good, but not the same. Like Ms.Weary's chocolate pie vs. Mrs. Gill's chocolate pie... both are good, but not the same.

Same thing. They fizz in your mouth, they have caffeine, etc. It’s like Godiva and Ghirdelli, both are chocolate, one may have been processed different or cooked a certain way, but in the end you’re left with what? Chocolate.

"Well gee AlreadyGone, your so simplistic..you're missing the point."
REALLY? Happiness and joy is where you find it...contentment is where you place it. Peace and love and hope and faith...I don't see any in your life. Damn sad too.

What is peace? What is love? What is hope? What is faith? What are these things? I’ll tell you. They are lies we comfort ourselves with because we don’t want to accept the truth.

You ever watch Ol'Yellar..the Disney classic...or The Brian Piccalo Story? Ever cry at the end? Maybe get a lump in your throat when a little baby grabs your finger, or you see a little child say the Pledge of Allegiance... or see a Farmall 140...all like new go by...with an American Flag flying in the breeze...

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! You’re a piece of work.

or a field full of corn ready for harvest in the warm summer sun? How about a cup of coffee, steaming hot with a new sunrise... the way the peach clouds contrasts against a turquoise blue sky? Or maybe some little new born piglets, all lined up suckling on their mom?

Nothing unique about any of those things. It’s all a cycle that is being repeated somewhere on the planet.

EMPIRE, I hope you find a smile somewhere.

I haven’t lost my smile, I’m simply smiling at different things.

reply to post by EMPIRE

In closing BOW to TPTB and accept your fate with dignity.

You seem to have an odd concept of what dignity is. I do not think that the words bow and dignity belong in the same sentence together.

More like, bow to the TPTB and accpet your fate with depravity.

That sounds better.

Accept the fact that you will never change anything and that depravity is the norm.

These people didn't accept that "fact," and they changed the course of history:

Martin Luther

Gandhi

Martin Luther King Jr

Socrates

Mother Teresa

Thomas Jefferson

Benjamin Franklin

Malcolm X

Andrew Jackson

If our Forefathers accepted your world philosophy, the British Empire would have never been fought.

Accept the fact that money/resources, not love, faith, humility, righteousness or peace is what makes the world spin.

I just have to point out that, it is the bending of the fabric of space, that causes the spinning of the Earth on its axis. You would think that this would be common knowledge in the 21st century.

Einstein would be ashamed of you.

. Accept the fact that the earth is divided over everything under the Sun

The Earth is actually a whole body in space that we call planets. The Earth is not really divided on any issue. In fact, I do not think that the Earth votes either Republican nor Democrat.

Planets do not care.

On the other hand, humans may be divided, but that could be from a lack of education.

It will be united under one banner is when THEY unite the planet under their banner. Oops! They already have!

Logical Fallacies

reply to post by EMPIRE


There are no true enemies or allies.

You are only owned if you think you are, for then you are giving up your Free Will with such thought and accepting the giving of an unseen master.

You are never owned and your Free Will is never taken from you this is all illusion.

The most powerful basis of all of existence is Free Will.

One see's themself as owned, I do not. One is owned, I am not.

Namastè, Love be with you.

reply to post by Prime-Vector


The rest of the world is free? Ok, how many countries are bound to agreements they've made with the World Bank? More importantly, who governs the World Bank?

Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by AlreadyGone

 

EMPIRE, I hope you find a smile somewhere.

I haven’t lost my smile, I’m simply smiling at different things.

Exactly!!! there will always be something to smile about in fact im smiling right now

reply to post by EMPIRE



Dude you are completely lost. Tell us what is it you smile at? The Sunset is just a ball of energy? love is just a lie... sigh! Your outlook is worse the death if the wonders of our world cannot evoke any emotion in you. I truly want to know why haven't you just ended it all if you see no value in anything around you and it's all just the same old mundane thing day in and day out? Are you depressed? maybe you need some help?

Empathy has a lot of you poor schmucks on a crazy run. Yeah, you don't realize it, but you're caught in a wake of empathy that has you on a preposterous state of mind that is indeed making you stubbornly one-track minded and as blind as the next guy.

I don't know how many times I have to say it, but most of you people on here who talk about the government sit in the comfort of your american home type, type, typing away on your little computer while on the other side of the world a Thai man is thrown in jail for accidently disrespecting something with the picture of the king on it. I want to just come out and tell you all to just shut the [OOPS!] up, but that'd be just plain rude. Be thankful for what you have, don't seem an ingrateful jerk who's always looking over their shoulder.

Thanks

reply to post by dalan.

You seem to have an odd concept of what dignity is. I do not think that the words bow and dignity belong in the same sentence together.

Yes they do. In many ancient cultures, and even in cultures present today, bowing and dignity are often found together. I shouldn’t have to explain these things to you.

Martin Luther

Reject by his so called Christian brothers.

Gandhi

In the beginning, had some very racist views, and did little to help India which is why the people in the country are still subjected to caste systems, regardless of what idiots may say.

Martin Luther King Jr

KIA (I’d say Jackson was involve.) Where are African Americans now?

Socrates

The father of plagiarism who most likely never presented an original thought of his own, but instead, most likely lifted it from other peoples/cultures around him.

Mother Teresa

Experienced the Dark Night of the Soul, helped all she could, yet little boys are being molested by depraved priests.

Thomas Jefferson

TPTB.

Benjamin Franklin

TPTB.

Malcolm X

KIA by his own people. Realized his version of Islam was different from Islam, yet he could do nothing to help Africans that are subjected to mistreatment from their Arabic Muslim brothers.

Andrew Jackson

TPTB.

I just have to point out that, it is the bending of the fabric of space, that causes the spinning of the Earth on its axis. You would think that this would be common knowledge in the 21st century.

Einstein would be ashamed of you.

You fail at sarcasm.

The Earth is actually a whole body in space that we call planets. The Earth is not really divided on any issue. In fact, I do not think that the Earth votes either Republican nor Democrat. Planets do not care. On the other hand, humans may be divided, but that could be from a lack of education.

See above.

Logical Fallacies

Not applicable.

reply to post by 11118


Free will does not exist.

Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by 11118

 

Free will does not exist.

Due to your gift of Free Will you do not have Free Will by stating so.

May Love be with you deep dreamer.

Unless you people begin to break-down each one of the philosophical and psychological elements within his work, your arguments will be like the bits of floating garbage within his empirical thought structure.

...Perhaps confirming that you - like him - are stagnant, intellectually.

He's having fun, and from the place he sits, from his position above his empire - you are all "slaves" sipping from his offering. Can't you see that? Can't you see how to get passed that?

...Definitions are necessary in order to bring him down to your landscape, and make him accept that this is the landscape you are bringing him too. He agrees, now the flavour of the soup has changed with your addition of an agreed element.

This thread has been very entertaining, but so far Empire has had the best of most of you. Seems that many don't even realize what's happening.

I must admit that I've observed some members work previously, and had some early favourites in SD and particularly m0r and one other who was most kind to me in U2U on this site -- but Empire has suddenly made his appearance and I have to say I'm suitably impressed.

Well done, Empire. You've licked 'em clean and your blade is finer than I ever thought you possessed or deserved to hold.

RofCG,
Daniel Moszkowicz. (The Troll-King of Chatsitea.)




[edit on 19-3-2010 by Daniel Moszkowicz]

reply to post by Echo3Foxtrot



So having things better then people in 3rd world countries is reason not to fight encroachment on freedom? We want to restore and keep freedom so just because we might have it better then someone else is no reason not to be vigilant on protecting against encroachment on our freedoms.

Also what you described in Thailand happens every day in most major cities of America if someone voices displeasure at police or judges etc.

The point is we achieved a larger measure of freedom then any other country on earth and we see it slipping away inch by inch and want to stop it and reverse it and increase it. So stop telling us to not worry about it because someone else has it worse. That is Marxist socialist propaganda fed to folks to get them to think if someone has less freedom then us then we should let our freedom regress to thier level.

reply to post by Faiol


so true, yet only a small population of people are able to understand that concept as a whole.
so many people are brainwashed thru religion that they cant learn..
its amazing,

its like they put it right in front of us, but so many people are sheep and choose not to pay attention to what really matters in reality

Originally posted by Simplynoone
But you forgot one thing ...there is no hope in this world for sure but there is still a hope in the afterlife with our creator (to who are spirits came from)...
through his Son Jesus Christ who is the HEIR to that Kingdom ...
.


[edit on 18-3-2010 by Simplynoone]

[edit on 18-3-2010 by Simplynoone]

My question is, how do we not know that religion isn't a tool conjured up by TPTB? I always hear people saying that no matter what happens here, they have Heaven to look forward to. I am beginning to wonder if that isn't just a cop out. It seems like TPTB are all about control, as is religion. We could all stop this if we really wanted by standing up and saying no, and if needed, taking it to the next step. But with all this scripture about giving to ceasar what is ceasars and and so on it adds a catch 22 to the mix. "I could fight back, but I don't want to spoil my chances of getting into heaven."
Where would the human race be if the direction of the past 50-100 years (or 500-1000yrs) hadn't been handed over to what seems like some of the worst, psychopathic, power hungry, miserable people on the planet? So many bright minds, and good hearts, that if allowed to flourish, could've, and maybe still will make earth the paradise we all dream of.
Wouldn't a truly loving and forgiving God want us to fight back at injustices? Our own and the injustices suffered by others? I never understand people who want to see little guys who commit little crimes get the book thrown at them and rot in prison or worse for the rest of their life but let the big dogs who do unspeakable things get away with it. Even when it affects them directly, they still won't lift a finger, and then they'll quote some scripture and just reassure themselves that their little mansion in heaven is being readied for them. That by letting these criminals sit in the drivers seat and keep us in a downward spiral that they are somehow doing God's work. But if the whole Bible story and religion thing is a creation of TPTB, wouldn't it stand to reason that maybe we have take some responsibility for our future and that of our children and stop waiting for some deity to show up and make everything all happy or hope that the whole St. Peter and streets of gold story is true. I'm not trying to mock religion or believers. I just think there comes a point where one has to question the foundation of their belief system when there seems to be a blevy of contradictions, and the ones telling us to follow the rules of said belief system appear to be the biggest offenders.

[edit on 3/19/10 by Chillidog1]

EMPIRE, although I enjoyed your rant, I can't help but feel disappointed that this was only about America.

Surely someone with your perspective can see it's not just America circling the drain?

That, and your pessimism... not very appealing.

Heaven and Hell, Freedom and Imprisonment, are mostly matters of perspective.

The situation we are in right now is indeed nothing new, but I decided a long time ago to derive happiness from whatever I can, otherwise Life is not worth living.

Ignorance isn't bliss, yet knowledge/awareness isn't either unless you know how to balance perspectives.

reply to post by Conspiracy Pianist

The title says it all but extends to every person on the globe.

Depending on where you think the thread starts, the above can be considered the first or second sentence of the OP.