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Grammar on the Internet

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posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 04:26 PM
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As lng as da msg gts ax, i rly dnt mind.

Reading broken english is just a talent , not extra work.

Another PC Nazi deconstructing the world as we know it.

Dead thread.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 04:32 PM
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I edit my posts for proper grammar and syntax. That said, I was an English major in university. I think it's wrong to put other to the same standards as I keep myself to. They may not have the same education. Secondly, spell check only works if to have a spelling error and the word doesn't exist. If you mean to use the word "them" and you miss a keystroke and spell "the", spell check won't fix it. Same as their, they're, etc.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 05:05 PM
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OP, you are absolutely correct. The worst thing about the bad grammar and spelling on the internet is that others might begin to think that this is the correct way to spell or say something. I believe that it is definitely a large part in the dumbing down of mankind. What's worse is that recently I've seen linked stories on respectable websites that have spelling and grammar errors.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 05:17 PM
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So what is English Grammar and spelling??

The below is correctly spelt, and correct English, while also being an apt expression for this thread.


” uf evry man wud swip is own house clean, he wud have but a poor scrub ov a broom to lend to his neighbour.”


I actually have had many an interesting debate with friends about the same issue, but concerning the South Saxon/Sussex Language vs Standard English.

But at the end of the day even Rudyard Kipling knew that liddle was the correct way of spelling litttle



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 05:24 PM
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There are rules and laws for grammar. If you look at any grammar book, it doesn't say, "Just write it whatever way you want." It will give you specifc rules which govern proper grammar. This should have been taught to you beginning in elementary school.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 05:28 PM
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"There, They're, Their. These are three words with three meanings."

Well, I guess there are a few people out there who do not know their ying yangs from their yazoos. After all, they're only human.

Illiteracy is no excuse when one is raised in a developed country with access to numerous educational resources. Unfortunately, the dumbing down of America has become top priority during the past century.

Those responsible for promoting ignorance and illiteracy are running the risk of having such policies backfire in their faces. The cliche "be careful what you wish for" comes to mind.

And there you have it.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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"There are rules and laws for grammar."

Right on!


And those who adhere to these rules are practicing proper English. Although this may come as a shock to some, utilizing the language properly is not a guessing game.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 05:48 PM
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I agr , cn I hv ic crm knw.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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In addition to what you said, and to follow-up on some earlier posts, there is no such thing as casual grammar. There are casual words, but there is only one type of grammar.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 05:57 PM
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My argument goes that the rules locally are different to standard English.. Dictionaries have been produced that support that FACT, Rudyard Kipling and other authors have used those conventions and rules within their works..

So is Kipling wrong in spelling liddle instead of little or pharisees for fairies, along with many other differences to Standard English?

If I used a reduplicated plural (postesses for posts) who is to say I am wrong, as that is the correct way of pluralising a word.. All South Saxon (Sussex) plurals until very recently where reduplicated.

Given that the South Saxon (Sussex) nation and language is the oldest Anglo-Saxon nation, and their naming convention is exclusively English.. I could try and claim South Saxon primacy on the English language (I won't as I am not that much of a twit)

But I will point out that standard English is really quite a new construct and those conventions and rules people claim are correct do in fact run parallel to other equally correct English conventions and rules.


”uf evry man wud swip is own house clean, he wud have but a poor scrub ov a broom to lend to his neighbour.”

As I mentioned in my previous post, the above expression is written correctly, just as the county motto "We wunt be bruv" is written correctly, while the rules that govern how it is written/said run in parallel to standard English.


[edit on 14/3/10 by thoughtsfull]



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 06:01 PM
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wrong thread


[edit on 3/14/2010 by yeahright]



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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The motto of this forum is "deny ignorance".

If someone can't differentiate between the proper use of completely different words with different meanings, then, in my opinion, this dilutes the value of the ideas they express, as they come across as ignorant. I think this is the OP's point. I agree entirely.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Funk bunyip
The motto of this forum is "deny ignorance".

If someone can't differentiate between the proper use of completely different words with different meanings, then, in my opinion, this dilutes the value of the ideas they express, as they come across as ignorant. I think this is the OP's point. I agree entirely.


A point I hadn't considered, and what a cracking point this is.

We should all aspire to deny ignorance, and to make that our most important goal here.

You get a star from me.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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You also have to understand that some of us were educated in public schools in America. So proper English grammar is not generally taught or learned.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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Well I can see this is something that bothers you. The only that kind of bothers me is when someone says "u" instead of "you". But its theres right to do so and I dont think any less of them for doing it, like the other poster said, many people use ATS from their phone which may take up too much time, so they just shortcut it.

Hopefully its not something that ruins your day because its a bit trivial.



posted on Mar, 15 2010 @ 12:32 AM
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Explanation:
How about the OP'er [can't bring myself to type their callsign due to
] USE THE FREAKING SEARCH FUNCTION! :bnghd:

I'm So Bloody
because I just MADE A THREAD, in the RANT forum of BTS a few days ago, that totally covered this issue. :shk:

STOP STEALING MY FLAGS!

I really
HATE YOUR ATTITUDE, DUDE, SO MUCH!


and BRACE yourself for this threads Godwin's Law Factor to approach and equal 1!!! :bnghd:

The Conspiracy of Grammar Nazi's to invoke Godwins Law!



Since there is no emoticon for how I feel right now, I will just have to adapt, overcome and survive that obstical!

OL Evolves to compensate for that lack!

[Lamarkian Mutation Occurs!]

Woot! Cop this...



Personal Disclosure:


P.S. Oh... :shk: There was an emoticon!
But I overlooked it due to blinding rage.
Here it is...



posted on Mar, 15 2010 @ 03:57 AM
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That was the funniest post i've ever read on this site. It was more cluttered than that scene in the Marx Brothers movie where they stow away on the ship and keep bringing stuff in the room. Ahhh good times...



posted on Mar, 15 2010 @ 08:54 AM
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If you're buying, I'm there. Or you can just mail it to me... A strawberry parfait? Please?

To me, and I may be alone in this...it wouldn't surprise me, 'cause I'm a little weird at times...but, part of the fun is watching the, at times, creative spelling that goes on, online...

Honestly, I do attempt to use proper, whatever that is in this day and age, English when posting. Doesn't always work for me...but I try. I also find, at times, that "proper" English doesn't allow me to convey, exactly, what I'm trying to say, with the proper, there's that word again, emotive impact. If that makes any sort of sense...the caffeine hasn't quite kicked in yet...



posted on Mar, 17 2010 @ 05:56 PM
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Dud, wat da hel r u talkin abut?

No, seriously.. I live in Denmark & I'm from Italy.

I do my best to write properly, but not so that every single thread is perfect. All I concentrate on is that my words are being spelled right and I try not to flip words around like, write/right.

But I think you are getting too sensitive. And yes, let's stick to the fact that you are directing this to native speaking americans.

This is a casual place, and such things only need attention so that the posters post is understood.

I'm sure many times it's not about laziness but the actual poster not knowing when to put apostrophe's. To be honest, I'm very unaware on when to put apostrophes on plural words. Just like the word apostrophe, lol.

On a reply to your OP someone said that they agreed and if the poster has bad grammar they won't even bother reading what he has written.
That is so like people with "silverspoons" up their arse!

Be a little down to earth, think that maybe, just maybe that person hasn't been educated propely on that subject, maybe he/she is having a hard day. MAYBE, JUST MAYBE that person is in such a mood to get their ideas out, that they just hurried.

The best one though = I suppose most people here write their posts at night (I do.) and there is an answer to bad grammar.

Anyways. it's impossible to know the reason of why their grammar is wrong.

If it's a laziness issue, then fine, it's pathetic.
If it's a genuine reason, then leave them alone.

REMEMBER! WE ALL HAD SHI%¤Y GRAMMAR IN THE BEGINNING! (:

[edit on 17-3-2010 by SalkinVictory]



posted on Mar, 18 2010 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid
Secondly, spell check only works if to have a spelling error and the word doesn't exist. If you mean to use the word "them" and you miss a keystroke and spell "the", spell check won't fix it. Same as their, they're, etc.


I was going to post exactly this.

I am sorry OP but i am going to absolutely disagree with you. Yes presentation is a nice additive, however, like others have mentioned, how do you know English is the first language? How do you know the age of the individual?

Not everyone has their strengths in grammatical concepts. I am a teacher and i sure don't.

One more little thing, making a topic like this is dangerous unless your own grammar is 100% perfect. Reading through this thread, it is obvious that your grammar is not perfect, nor is mine.



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