Incoming: SOHO observes a halo CME heading our way.

MAY BE ANOTHER EARTHQUAKE


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Good work in debunking the panics, Pazcat It's good to see someone here watching the sky and being fully rational.

Even in the worst case scenario, all that would happen is some electric funk ups for a few hours, maybe some widespread data loss on electronics left on? Would we recover really quickly from anything that did go wrong?

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There may be a terminal speed for that kind of matter moving through space, but that is speculation on my part. We face a much greater danger with Gamma Ray bursts. A direct hit from Gamma Rays would blow away the atmosphere and cook whatever portion of the earth was exposed to the burst.
MUCH nastier, and there is no warning possible. We wouldn't even know it was coming. Every day on this side of the grass is precious, Folks.....

So far, 3 other people have mentioned quakes... Let me be next to say that I agree. I am going to say that between the 16th and the 18th (depending which timezone you are in) that we will see another quake, one greater than a 6.0 due to this eruption.

Did anyone else notice the arrival of the last flare that hit (or glanced us as spacewather puts it) here? It just happened to arrive here on Earth at roughly the same time as the quake in Japan yesterday. This isn't the first time either. People are becoming aware of the connection and I am working on a graph that plots the CME/sunspot-to-quake ratio but some of us have jobs that don't allow the needed time to complete such a task.

Go look back at the spaceweather archives from the 10th - approximately 3 days prior to arrival. It is beyond coincidence, I assure you.

Just my two cents.

~Namaste

Originally posted by Common Good
So it can cause Geomagnetic Storms?

WTF is a Geometric Storm?

I drive a Geo Metro, should I be concerned? come to think of it isn't their a Geo Storm? My goodness if this thing hits it'll make the Toyota recalls insignificant. Do you think the Astroid/comet couldve been a man made object deliberately hurled at the sun to create a Geometric storm to wipe out vehicles that are good on gas?

Well im off to the store to buy 20 boxes of tin foil, 19 for my Geo and 1 for my hat!

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Originally posted by SonOfTheLawOfOne
So far, 3 other people have mentioned quakes... Let me be next to say that I agree. I am going to say that between the 16th and the 18th (depending which timezone you are in) that we will see another quake, one greater than a 6.0 due to this eruption.

Did anyone else notice the arrival of the last flare that hit (or glanced us as spacewather puts it) here? It just happened to arrive here on Earth at roughly the same time as the quake in Japan yesterday. This isn't the first time either. People are becoming aware of the connection and I am working on a graph that plots the CME/sunspot-to-quake ratio but some of us have jobs that don't allow the needed time to complete such a task.

Go look back at the spaceweather archives from the 10th - approximately 3 days prior to arrival. It is beyond coincidence, I assure you.

Just my two cents.

~Namaste

I agree basicly the earth is colliding with a kind of mass,,,since we are a liquid plant with a tiny crust you will have the same affect as we see a waterbubble floting in spacelab...
agree ...an CME is gas... but at the otherhand the smallest colliding can set up an quake...a crust under tensing will react on the slightest resistance...

As seen from STEREO B, which is in orbit about 93 million miles behind us, the CME does seem to be headed in our direction (to the right).

But it's kind of minor.

stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov...

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Will be interesting to see what happens when this storm hit earth on the 17th. What funny but is that if something does, home many people on this forum will blame HAARP for it!
Lately this blame game is getting ridiculous.
Interesting OP anyway. Waiting for the big one that starts knocking out the sat's and electricity grids, just to see what happens.

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watch the movie "3D Sun" on Hulu, i can't remember exactly when.. the year 2006 i think.. the sun was in a very dormant stage, and outta nowhere ejected a MASSIVE solar flare that reached us in.... ready for this?..

8 minutes.

To my knowledge, a CME and a solar flare are the same thing.. I have been wondering ever since how it is possible for a solar flare to travel at the speed of light, and despite the research i put forth before losing interest, came up with nothing. anyone have any knowledge as to how a CME can travel at the speed of light?

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very hard to disagree with phage on this one. if you watch the video, yea.. it looks large.. very large. but compared to other CME's we have been seeing lately, this one seems to be just as powerful as some of the bigger ones we've seen lately, except for the fact that it's spread out over a a MUCH larger area, therefore lessening it's impact on an object since the full density of force will not be impacting it.

i'm no Einstein, but that's just what common sense is telling me ATM.

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They are not the same thing. A solar flare is a strong outpouring of electromagnetic energy (x-rays, UV, visible light). A CME is an eruption of matter.

Solar flares are often (but not always) associated with CMEs. The energy of the flare reaches us at the speed of light. The material from the CME usually takes several days but has been known to reach us in less than 1 day. The CME associated with the Carrrington event in 1859 reached Earth in 18 hours.


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Is there any way to compare the 1859 event to the current CME?

Originally posted by johnnygun207
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very hard to disagree with phage on this one. if you watch the video, yea.. it looks large.. very large. but compared to other CME's we have been seeing lately, this one seems to be just as powerful as some of the bigger ones we've seen lately, except for the fact that it's spread out over a a MUCH larger area, therefore lessening it's impact on an object since the full density of force will not be impacting it.

i'm no Einstein, but that's just what common sense is telling me ATM.

perhaps the energy hit us earlier than the matery????? that would explain the time difference... gravity schockwave and magnetic matery

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Originally posted by jennybee35
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Is there any way to compare the 1859 event to the current CME?

From what I have read about this flare - they hardly compare at all. This one is not that big of a flare, and is fairly common during active periods of the sun. Aurora toward the poles will likely be more active, but the rest of Earth should hardly notice when it gets here.

Now, my personal opinion is that, like others here, I suspect something is going on between the sun and our earthquake activity. I do not know what the link is just yet, but it seems like there is one. So far the only solar activity that I find related to quakes was magnetic filaments collapsing. This CME does not seem to be related to a filament collapse, so I am not sure if we will see any subsequent quake. Either way, any significant geological activity (or lack thereof) in the coming 2 to 3 days will help me further form my hypothesis.

A 6.0 or even 6.8 in the pacific ring of fire won't do it for me either. If a quake is going to be related to this solar event, I think it would have to be either 6+ in a region that does not normally get quakes or 7+ in the ring of fire.

This is just speculation and curiosity on my part. If this CME acts as a normal, traditional CME from solar cycles of the past, we will see little to nothing. As always, our good old friend TIME will tell.

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There was a B class flare after the CME but Sunspot No. 1054 has been displaying some pretty consistent low level activity.



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Originally posted by Phage
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There was a B class flare after the CME but Sunspot No. 1054 has been displaying some pretty consistent low level activity.

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Does anybody know what this downpeaks are, i noticed them at the haiti quake? Loss of energy?

Are this downpeaks are maybe somehow in connection to this asteroids?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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i want to be outside to view an aurora but im not sure if a cme only causes that in polar regions? i live in a city btw

Originally posted by pazcat
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There is no evidence to suggest that though. And it was parts of a comet not an asteroid which means the make up of it is more ice and dust than much else.
It would not have had too much of an impact on the sun, the pieces would of been destroyed well before any impact could happen.

The most likely cause is sunspot 1054.

What?! There is plenty of evidence to suggest that!

Goto soho movie maker
Image Type: LASCO C3
Start Date: 2010-03-11
End Date: 2010-03-14

And watch as the first asteroid hits from the 8 o'clock position. Then the resulting CME. After that a comet, with tail (Ice and dust), comes in and is quickly dissolved. Then on the same trajectory is what looks like two asteroids are heading in together! Although the impact is cutout, you know that they hit as objects in motion (in space) cant just disappear! Unless you want to get into aliens and I dont believe this is the proper forum!

How do we know the second object is the only comet? Because you can watch it heat up as it gets brighter! The first and (for ease sake call it) third objects dont change size or brightness as they approach the sun. What does that tell us? The "third" object should cause the same effect the first did! And looking at the timing, it DOES! Not some sunspot. So why would spaceweather.com tell us its a sun-spot? Think about that one.

I do not know about you but these Coronal Mass Ejections [CME] always give me a massive headache and I get quite ill every time. However I am sensative. I also get ill when we get higher than usual cosmic ray bursts from the centre of our Milkyway galaxy. Interestingly I am also not able to go near to motor transport because the electric sparks in the motor emit x-ray energy which is causing me to be really ill. People generally might not realise the damage to health being caused by all these gamma radiation sources. Wether natural or man made it makes no difference to the fact that radiation causes cancer.

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