Mexican military copter over U.S. neighborhood

Mexican military copter over U.S. neighborhood

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BROWNSVILLE — The Zapata County sheriff Thursday was questioning why a Mexican military helicopter was hovering over homes on the Texas side of the Rio Grande.

It was one of the more jarring incidents of the fourth week of border tensions sparked by drug killings, and rumors of such killings, in the Mexican state of Tamaulipas.

In the past two years, there have been 400 public corruption cases involving federal, state and local law enforcement agents originating from the Southwest border

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This story is disturbing on a number of fronts, the most of which is that there is a mandated news blackout in Mexico due to the threat to journalists. I wonder what else is happening that we don't know about. This is essentially a war occurring in the next town and while we hear about it on occasion, it does not receive the coverage it deserves.

How can it be that there have been some 400 corruption cases involving US officials on the border from various agencys and we are just now finding out about it now? This level of corruption has not be reported on in the US. There is clearly a concerted effort by the entire mainstream media to cover this up. If there were 400 corruption cases of officials in any other region of the country it would receive nightly coverage on all major US networks.

ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, MSNBC, CNN are all for a lax policy towards Mexico. FOX might have a story or two about the violence and on immigration generally, but I have never seen on any network a story about how rife the problem with US public officials is. The MSM is essentially an open border mouth organ and while there might be differences in proposed solutions, they are for a far more lax policy than the majority of the American people.

In just about any other country, were this to happen the embassador of that country would be summoned and grilled. This was not a mistake where the border is difficult to see. It was a clear violation of US air space and should be treated as such.

This is yet another story that receives attention in ebbs and flows. The public gets upset about it and then other things come up and there is no more talking about it.

The American people are not more interested in hearing about Massa and his but grabbing and showers with Rahm. The media is more interested in reporting on it than serious problems like our failed immigration policy. Even with Obama's immigration bill moving its way through congressional committees, we really don't know what it contains, although a "path to citizenship" is included.

This issue is unique - it is intimately involved with the terrorism issue, economic issues, jobs and health care. The more this is ignored, the worse it will get and then when folks become upset, the border will essentially be erased - it will essentially become an easement for the Mexicans.

If you can not protect your borders, you can not protect your sovergnity. The most outrageous thing about this is that it could be fixed in 48 hours. Pull troops out of South Korea and Europe and station them with sniper rifles on the border. Hire several thousand border patrol officers. Constantly have US helicopters and drones patrol the border.

This problem is simple to stop. The ramifications of stopping it might be complex, but stopping it is simple.

Mexico is a failed state and represents far more danger to the US than a bunch of dudes hiding out in caves in Afganistan who MIGHT do something to harm Americans. Mexicans are flowing over the border right now harming Americans. Harming them in some cases violently and in some cases subtly, but harming them none the less.

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Shoot the damn thing down!

What are they going to do, retaliate?

Originally posted by Alxandro
Shoot the damn thing down!

What are they going to do, retaliate?

thats what would happen in any other country if military aircraft entered without warning or reason.

its an act of agression.

what would they do? send everyone in mexico bum rushing the border?

Quite frankly I am shocked !!!


Mexico can afford a helicopter !!!! lol.


I do not think it was an aggresive act at all, perhaps they were investigating a drug route, ..... or they simply got lost and overstepped the border.

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My signature has a thread with my solution for the immigration problem. I agree with the liberals, that we need the Mexicans for a certain workforce that Americans tend to not want to do . . . . BUT BUT BUT . . . . . We HAVE to protect the border! LEGAL immigration should be streamlined and encouraged, but ILLEGAL border crossing by anybody should be dealt with swiftly and severely! Anybody crossing our border illegally must be considered an enemy of the state!

Drugs, terrorists, criminals, gangs, and everything else is coming across the border of the "strongest" country in the world? The Mexican border is a problem, but the Canadian border is even worse! There are a number of places without so much as a toll booth! A terrorist could very very easily get into the vast wilderness of Canada, build whatever type of WMD strikes their fancy, and drive unimpeded into Chicago, or Seattle, or Pittsburgh, or even all the way to D.C. ?!?!?!?

The Mexican helicopter may have been doing its job and actually protecting the border, but where were the F-16s? If a foreign aircraft crossed our border illegally, shouldn't it have set off a number of alarms and reactions?

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I might have an answer to you lack of news...

Mexico drug gang hushes killings with news blackout
Robin Emmott
REYNOSA, Mexico
Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:01am ESTREYNOSA, Mexico (Reuters) - A powerful drug cartel is buying off journalists in northern Mexico to work as spies and smother coverage of a spike in killings on the U.S. border in the latest attack on the media in Mexico.

Hitmen from the Gulf cartel based over the border from Texas are paying reporters around $500 a month and showering them with liquor and prostitutes to intimidate and silence colleagues at radio stations and newspapers in towns near the Laredo-Brownsville area, journalists and editors say.

A turf war that has erupted over the past three weeks around the manufacturing city of Reynosa has gone almost completely unreported despite more than 100 deaths, in a news blackout made more notable by the intense media coverage of other drug war flashpoints around the country

Across Mexico, nearly 19,000 people have been killed in drug violence since President Felipe Calderon came to power in late 2006 and launched a military-backed campaign against drug cartels. The bloodshed worries Washington and is scaring off foreign investment and tourists as Mexico's economy tries to recover from its worst recession in decades.

For years, ill-paid Mexican reporters have occasionally been forced by cartel gunmen to take money to report favorably on traffickers or hush up killings, but the Gulf cartel now appears able to impose an almost total muzzle on reporting violence from Nuevo Laredo to Matamoros.

We Live just 2 hours from Juarez/El Paso so yeah we keep very close tabs on what's happening over there. Just one more reason we're leaving Albuquerque... there are experts who believe were about to have thousands, tens of thousands of refugees...

Read thjis

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Another thread . . . . possibly the same article.

This is one helicopter. Hardly an invasion force and do you know for certain that it wasn't working with DEA or something? Doesn't US drug enforcement work alot in mexico? I'm sure the reason for this will be told soon as this has hit the media. Also it could simply be a mistake on the part of the mexicans. This hardly would be a reason to fortify the border with snipers and whatnot.

Originally posted by PsykoOps
This is one helicopter. Hardly an invasion force and do you know for certain that it wasn't working with DEA or something? Doesn't US drug enforcement work alot in mexico? I'm sure the reason for this will be told soon as this has hit the media. Also it could simply be a mistake on the part of the mexicans. This hardly would be a reason to fortify the border with snipers and whatnot.

You reminded me of something... last month here in Albuquerque we had some old Russian fighter do a fly over... they were filming a move... maybe someone has dressed up a copter to like like Mexican Army for a TV show or film?

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Yeah but then the town would've been notified probably. Maybe a PR slipup could be an explanation.

Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
... perhaps they were investigating a drug route, ..... or they simply got lost and overstepped the border.

Perhaps but I doubt it. It's extremely likely the military is itself involved in drug trafficking.

They were probably looking for illegal gringos who have been slipping across the border. The Fascist Police State of America's never-ending War on Liberty has created a lot of havoc in border towns and many people have died as a result. Nice to see someone standing up for what's good and right, our unalienable God-given rights, against the evil American injustice system.

Originally posted by PsykoOps
This is one helicopter. Hardly an invasion force and do you know for certain that it wasn't working with DEA or something? Doesn't US drug enforcement work alot in mexico? I'm sure the reason for this will be told soon as this has hit the media. Also it could simply be a mistake on the part of the Mexicans. This hardly would be a reason to fortify the border with snipers and whatnot.

Well it happened again. Once again a Mexican Navy helicopter entered US airspace, over the same area on Sunday. It was no mistake. Supposedly the D.O.D. knows they crossed over but are still "investigating". So its ok for them to be holding guns with an open ramp on this side of the border? They should not be on this side anyways, where are the planes from Kingsville Navy Air Station or from San Antonio? Where's the protection in the air from the Airforce or Navy? We get zilch! Oh and they did not get lost, they know the boundaries well, it is a river that divides the two countries.

I live about 5 minutes from the Texas-Mexico border, you can be sitting outside on a quiet night and can hear gunshots coming from the Mexican side. Its not a pretty sight here. They talk about spillover violence, here in the Valley some might not want to admit it but it is here already.

The news we do get about the gunfights, bombings, killings all come from word of mouth to Reynosa, TAMP. twitter feed and some local news coverage, well those stations that are not afraid to report about the Zetas and the C.D.G.

We already have to worry about that cartel violence and now worry about the Mexican military, too.

The Valley used to be such a great place to live but now its getting interesting to say the least.

Mexican Helicopter seen over Zapata County

D.O.D. confirms Mex. helicopter over U.S. soil

DIRDEGOBREYNOSA

Originally posted by KitKat81

The news we do get about the gunfights, bombings, killings all come from word of mouth to Reynosa, TAMP. twitter feed and some local news coverage, well those stations that are not afraid to report about the Zetas and the C.D.G.

Oh snap.. it wasn't enough with the CIA and the mexican mafia, the militaries are in on it, and now we've got freaking zeta reticulans slangin' dope too!? The drug game is getting too crazy these days......

I swear sometimes.. I don't know what the hell is going on!

so are we to protect our country from foreign invasion? are we allowed to open fire if we see this kind of thing?

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think of it this way
atleast they arent showering the place with artilery shells and bombers along with ground invasion.

if this was the US and it was vice versa it would prob have declared war right now taking the fight to the cartels and so on

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Por supuesto que México puede darse el lujo de un helicóptero. Pueden permitirse muchas debido a todos los adictos a las drogas en los Estados Unidos dan los ingresos del gobierno mexicano para comprar.

Vamos ahora. Los drogadictos en los Estados Unidos son parte de los continuos problemas que aquí (en Estados Unidos).

La otra parte del problema es que hay tantos mexicanos indocumentados que viven en los Estados Unidos que envían una mayor parte del ingreso a México. Alimentos y necesidades médicas son pagadas por el contribuyente estadounidense.


American translation:
Of course Mexico can afford a helicopter. They can afford many because of all the drug addicts in the United States give the Mexican government revenue to buy them.

Come on now. Drug addicts in the United States are part of the ongoing problems here(in the United States).

The other part of the problem is that there are so many undocumented Mexicans living in the United States that send a majority of income back to Mexico. Food and medical needs are paid for by the American taxpayer.

There are 2 possible explinations:
1) The helicopter from Mexico is looking for drug trafficers crossing the border and trying to stop them.
2) It could be a probe to see what the response is, and to protect the migration of illegale immigrants, using such as an intimidation tactic.
I have heard and read stories on how members of the mexican military were helping a few drug runners escape from the justice system in America. Though I am kind of confused as to why the US Military did not have something watching or launch just to see what all was going on.

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Exactly. There are loads of American law enforcement in Mexico, why the fear over one Mexican chopper in the States? Probably working on shutting down smuggling routes.