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Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
My father used to be an Industrial Engineer at NWSC, otherwise known as Crane Indiana. He was one of the many engineers responsible for the S.D.I initiative in which HAARP was born. I am privy to some interesting information.
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
Now, if you agree that HAARP has military applications, what do you think they are? Is it as simple as communications??? I highly doubt it. At least, not from what I know about frequencies in general.
Originally posted by ziggystar60
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
My father used to be an Industrial Engineer at NWSC, otherwise known as Crane Indiana. He was one of the many engineers responsible for the S.D.I initiative in which HAARP was born. I am privy to some interesting information.
Well, I was born on Pluto, where my parents were a reptilan shapeshifting king and queen, and I was brought here in an invisible spaceship specifically to join ATS and deny that the Illuminati chemtrails excist, which they of course do.
Do you believe me? Do you think I am telling the truth?
Anyone can claim anything on the net. If you can't post this "interesting information" you say you are privy to, if you can't back it up with solid facts or evidence, it means nothing. Then it is simply yet another baseless claim on top of all the other baseless claims made in this thread.
Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry
Hot Damn EM you have taught me more about HAARP and the myriad of other ELF transmitters all over the globe. I can't thank you enough.
Projecting ELF all over the place is really freekin dangerous. I know children are most susceptible to un natural occurrences than adults.
I have three children and I am totally concerned.
I know that swatting flies is a never ending human condition but frying the brains of kids needs to be addressed.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry
Before you get a rotator cuff injury clapping "biochemky" on the back....I'd take a longer, harder look at the sources h/she cited, there, you betcha!
READ through the whole thing, especially the Q & A section....
One statement that made me giggle was something the authors said about only being able to get information about HAARP "from the Internet"!
Yes, the fear-mongering Chicken Littles of the Internet community are certainly the place to go for valid information.
No, let's not ask experts in any related field of study, let's rely on anonymous amateurs and laypersons posting without comprehension, opinions on matters of science and technology that they are not qualified to discuss.
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[edit on 23 March 2010 by weedwhacker]
Originally posted by Essan
Don't forget that the main purpose of HAARP is to make a decent pot of tea. It's yet to be proven that it is capable of making tea and causing earthquakes/controlling hurricanes/reading minds etc etc at the same time
Until then, it remains a big, expensive teasmade and nothing more.
Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
Well if you have specific problems with some of Biochemky's sources, why don't you point them out in a logical and rational manner.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by EvolvedMinistry
Well, just a simple google search of "Patrick Bailey" and "Nancy Worthington"...first, the 'padrak' website came up. Going a bit deeper, found this on Mr. Bailey:
www.zoominfo.com...
Note, please the extensive connections to the "livingmoon" website. Also, Dr. Bailey's extensive "investigations" into the fringe 'alternative energy' field of 'study'....
Notmy intent to bring derision on another website, one that many here at ATS take as "gospel" ---
---but, I see a troubling tendency involving Dr. Bailey. His earlier work involved better fuel-cell design technology, for instance, and that's admirable. He is a Nuclear Physicist, and has looked into the potential for cold fusion too, which is a "holy grail" of sorts --- perhpas will bear fruit, someday, but is considered 'fringe' right now (though much less 'fringe' than the so-called "ZPE"....still, who knows?)
Point is, a very learned man, with qualifications (two doctorates from MIT), yet he seems to have departed from real scince int ot he realm of the fantastic....so, I question his mental stablity at this point in time.
Remember, not all scientists (nor all Ph.Ds) are created equal.
And, yes....realizing that historically there have been instances of 'visionary' work that was dismissed initially, there is a big difference between having a 'vision', and delving into 'crackpot' areas....
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