ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference and Scientific Ufology

reply to post by Son of Will


Well be carefull now. Well i do believe Lazar to be a fraud, be carefull about alien scientist. While bob lazar like to outright lie and make crap up alien scientist goes over hypothetical scientific stuff and tries to pass it off as fact. I know it sounds pretty convincing when you have the video and an explanation of how all these things work but remember if alienscientist was talking real physics and real science he would probably be teaching a class or writting a book about his work instead of making youtube videos about the physicists theories he likes.

reply to post by zaiger


I don't think he tries to pass off any unsubstantiated theory as fact... in my memory of his channel, he makes it clear when he is departing from established fact and going off on one of his hypotheticals. I might be wrong, it's no secret that I admire the guy. Anyways point taken, just because it SOUNDS right doesn't make it so =)

reply to post by Son of Will


Well do not get me wrong it is good to keep up to date on fringe scince and what they are working on you just have to know what you are getting into. After all science is nothing more than a very long series of corrected mistakes.
A good way of judging the validity of any given theory is how far or how many steps it takes away from fact (you need a good stable piece of data).
This is where there becomes a huge devide in the field of UFOlogy. You have the poeple who try to studdy the phenomenon for what it is. Then you have the people who try to introduce new theories based off the unprooven theories that UFO are piloted by aliens. Then you get into the other density,spirit orbs, hyperdimensional beeings and lengthy descriptions of alien governments and their motives. There is nothing really "wrong" with any of those theories but when people say that their research has led them to that conclusion it often gets laughed at, not for the theory its self but the idea that any real research could have come to that conclusion due to the fact that we really have no idea what UFOs are.

Originally posted by zaiger
reply to post by Son of Will

 

Well do not get me wrong it is good to keep up to date on fringe scince and what they are working on you just have to know what you are getting into. After all science is nothing more than a very long series of corrected mistakes.
A good way of judging the validity of any given theory is how far or how many steps it takes away from fact (you need a good stable piece of data).
This is where there becomes a huge devide in the field of UFOlogy. You have the poeple who try to studdy the phenomenon for what it is. Then you have the people who try to introduce new theories based off the unprooven theories that UFO are piloted by aliens. Then you get into the other density,spirit orbs, hyperdimensional beeings and lengthy descriptions of alien governments and their motives. There is nothing really "wrong" with any of those theories but when people say that their research has led them to that conclusion it often gets laughed at, not for the theory its self but the idea that any real research could have come to that conclusion due to the fact that we really have no idea what UFOs are.

Well do not get me wrong it is good to keep up to date on fringe scince and what they are working on you just have to know what you are getting into. After all science is nothing more than a very long series of corrected mistakes.
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NSG says:
Well if it weren’t for firnge science we would all be in the dark now wouldn’t we. Do you realize the many scientists astronomers wizards alchemists and such existed before the BC era? At one time everyone thought the world was flat. Nobody is sure who first deduced that the world is round. It is most likely that it was done by observing the Earth's shadow on the Moon during a lunar eclipse. Aristotle (384-322 BC) said that it was common knowledge, at least among the learned, so it's been known for at least 2,500 years.
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A good way of judging the validity of any given theory is how far or how many steps it takes away from fact (you need a good stable piece of data).
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NSG says:
Test-retest and correlation coefficient are two commonly used measures of reliability. Internal consistency is important, too. Are all parts of the measure (especially a written tool) measuring the same characteristics? Split-half technique is an older and well-used way to test this type of reliability.

So basically thee are and introduction of people who actually taking the time to research I don’t find anything wrong. Not all scientists are well liked and further more there are some that are contantly ridiculed all the time take a look at global warming issue.

Always remember that one research study only provides evidence for or against a hypothesis, it never proves or disproves it! The more studies completed that show a strong trend, the more confidence you can have in the results.
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NSG says:
Your Examples of different people who in there own way wish to prove the (phenomenon) To which it is all phenomenon. That you are talking about listed below 1-4
NSG says:
There is no divide ,,,they are all studying the issue UFOology in separate formulations seeking to prove a hypothetic apotheosis.
So in one sense or another it all ties in with the UFO phenomenon.
1.This is where there becomes a huge divide in the field of UFOlogy.
2.You have the poeple who try to studdy the phenomenon for what it is.
3.Then you have the people who try to introduce new theories based off the unprooven theories that UFO are piloted by aliens.
4.Then you get into the other density,spirit orbs, hyperdimensional beeings and lengthy descriptions of alien governments and their motives.
5.There is nothing really "wrong" with any of those theories but when people say that their research has led them to that conclusion it often gets laughed at, not for the theory its self but the idea that any real research could have come to that conclusion due to the fact that we really have no idea what UFOs are.

Now It’s a start it’s great and I sure hope someday soon we find some answers cause it is obvious we aint getting it from our government or NASA

Who has a home made particle accelerator at home..... Oh yea Bob Lazar..... who has a Corvette that runs on pure hydrogen.... oh yea Bob Lazar... whose the physicist now lol

Originally posted by jdmmade
Who has a home made particle accelerator at home..... Oh yea Bob Lazar..... who has a Corvette that runs on pure hydrogen.... oh yea Bob Lazar... whose the physicist now lol

Haha very cool, I see you checked out his corvette.

And as far as the AlienScientist goes, I think he knows exactly what he is talking about. More so probably than 99% of the people that want to disbelieve in the possibilities that are out there. These skeptics almost always just want to be the first one to throw an idea under the gun. They have no real knowledge of the physics, math, science, and overall logic that comes in to play here. Ask a debunker if they study quantum physics. Ask them if they study the unified hyperdimensional theory of matter and energy. If they say no (99% chance) then they are just trying to disprove what they really have no understanding of in the first place.

reply to post by jdmmade

As I say
Here’s the comments we always here from you debunkers.

I’ believe it when I see it
Oh its just a comet that sizzled out
Oh its just a light show
Oh the plane must of farted leaving streaks in the sky.
Oh it’s the Russians spying on us.
Oh it’s the terrorists
Oh it’s china testing out new technology
Oh it’s the new police system gone airborne.
oh you guys are making this all up
oh theres just no way they have the means to fly around like that.

LOL…. Seriously If I didn’t believe, UFO’S were real I would not be sitting here wasting my time writing this post. I Witnessed seeing one myself along with my cousin in 1977 have seen other possible sightings that I cannot say for sure because they were no where near as clear and close as the one I seen in 1977.
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Everything else i have seen like orbs in the sky well the truth is I never mentioned those because of the fact that skeptics and debunkers will endlessly deny everything NSG52

reply to post by NorthStargal52


And what we alweays here from the believers
OMG it is a UFO!!!
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reply to post by zaiger


Do you understand these are REAL concepts? Backed up with REAL technology? This is science not fiction? I could link 50+ unsolved UFO threads that have not been debunked but I don't think it is worth my time. Not really sure why you are trolling this thread that is about proven technology that is REAL. This is not a thread about fake or hoax UFOs.

But Thanks.

If all this was true....it wouldnt be on a website.....simple. You think the feds dont monitor websites? *Sigh*....some statements....and lights in a sky...does not prove anything....theories dont prove anything...Einsteins knowledge came from theories...and they still are. You cannot prove what wants proven, thats right what HE wants proven. If 1....thats right only 1 person on this planet doesnt believe somones theory, it is a theory and not a fact until everyone knows its fact....and this UFO...this bible...this space time..is all a theory