Primary School Children told they will be taken from their families in Holocaust 'game'

Common sense is almost non-existant these days.

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reply to post by Horza


The problem is, even Jane Elliott suggested that the blue-eyed/brown-eyed lessson, should not be carried out on all children! On the contrary, she believed that it should be mandatory for all teachers/administrators. In the end, this sort of experience must be carefully administered because it can very easily damage a child's emotional well-being.

Originally posted by Phlynx

Originally posted by primus2012
Stinks to high heaven of Social Darwinism, Eugenics, EcoScience, Margaret Sanger, the whole bloody lot of em.

What do any of the listed have to do with this article?

Just "a game" to learn how alientated and disappointed you would "feel" when he got so many stars for his comment.

Is it possible that this could be some sort of “test.” to see how they would react, what impact it could have or if it could work..

Could it be possible that we see this sort of thing in the future? Yes, society would be horrified, but what if they are subjected to think it’s not or covered up or something?

And whatever these people doing, it’s atrocious. Allowing young innocent children to experience this, no wonder it scared them silly.

reply to post by Hatcookie


We are being systematically desensitized to an invasion of our privacy by constant exposure to environments that intentionally reduce us to our fight or flight instinct.

This act also reinforces as acceptable, in the eyes of the children who will one day be adults, any behavior Israel might take toward ANYONE, if said behavior is "in the name of the holocaust".

Acts such as these are also done to create a climate of constant low grade anxiety.

This allows for the neurons in the brain to become more pliable or "plastic".

The reason that torture works, in the sense that it can literally make someone see the color red as green, is due to the brain being forced into a state of neuroplasticity.

Although torture and fear have historically been the basis for any and all types of trauma based mind/behavior control, it was not actually proven as valid and applicable until the CIA backed, MKULTRA studies of Dr. Donald Ewan Cameron.

These studies then became the foundation for what is now called the KUBARK field interrogation manual.

If you were to read Naomi Cline's book "Shock Doctrine", then you would see that shock/trauma is the preferred method of introducing policies into a country who is hostile to said policies.

Make no doubt about it, even "common sense" requires a proper role model demonstrating the proper set of values.

TPTB are systematically destroying the ability to teach children right from wrong through their control of both the school system and nearly every means of communication possible.

We are like a rat in a Skinner Box. We just can't come to grips with it because we have no common sense.

Star for the comment.

[edit on 3/11/2010 by Josephus23]

You know, people in Rwanda suffered unspeakably during the genocide in the 1990s. Families were hacked with machetes, tortured, buried alive, burned alive, children were killed, parents were killed. Yet they are some of the most optimistic people about the sufferings they went through.

The way the Holocaust is talked about is as if it was the absolutely the worst thing that happened, and nothing could ever match. Holocaust is an incredible atrocity. But so were countless other atrocities.

The problem with the discussion of the Holocaust is that most such discussions ignore the sufferings of other groups and inadvertently highlight the Jews to be a superior race, a rather nationalistic/racist exercise. People are slowly conditioned through sympathy or empathy to accept that they deserve special treatment.

Why is this an issue? Because the Holocaust is brought up time and again to ensure nothing of the kind happens again. And yet, we fail to prevent genocides that happen(ed) in Rwanda, in Sudan, in Gaza, in the middle east. There was the Armenian genocide, the Ukrainian genocide...

The Holocaust has been turned into a profitable event, and it's being milked to drive policies and agendas ever since.

reply to post by gandalph


That is an unfortunate reality.

And what makes knowing the truth of the matter an even more difficult challenge are laws in Germany and Austria, which is where this "holocaust" occurred, that make it a very serious crime to even question the official storyline.

We can't go to the place where this thing occurred and do anything but tow the official storyline, or we go to jail for a very long time.

The word holocaust has been taken by the Zionists as their own, and yet they seem to totally overlook the many atrocities that you have mentioned plus many, many more.

I sincerely hope that a movement of people begin to wake up and see how these Zionists (mystery religions) have hijacked Judaism and are now using it as cause to commit mass genocide.

We are the last defense.
We are the last generation who can actually do something about this.




[edit on 3/11/2010 by Josephus23]

The boy who kicked over a chair and the boy who spoke up and demanded to speak to someone in charge have been put on a future domestic terrorist watch and will be the first ones to be taken out during Situation X.

Have a nice day.

WTF England?! Man, theres some serious mind game crap going on over there!

I'd be straight locked up over that stuff if it was my kid!

This is disgraceful. I have two young children of my own. I have printed the stories from the relevant newspapers and shall be telling my kids headmaster tomorrow that if they pull a stunt like that on my kids they will have a real f***in emergency on their hands.

reply to post by berenike


I had to this in high school except i played a commander called Jürgen Stroop with about 20 "guards" being ordered to "shoot"(we had imitation WW2 weapons) any uprisers and arrest those that surrender.

Although ours was highly organised with the aid of the Jewish community and WW2 recreational society in a recreation of the Warsaw uprising.

When we did it we learnt about the Soviet and Nazi crimes and took weeks of planning instead of being abruptly sprung on a bunch of little kids who chances are don't know what the Holocaust was.

Man my heart broke afterwards when some survivors told us how it reminded them of the actual uprising and efficiency of the Germans, took me a while to realise i still had my SS uniform on when i was heading home after the 3 hour demonstration..got a lot of funny looks and uncomfortable moving away (guess being 6'3 and blonde haired doesnt help much) from passengers on the bus when a SS officer and 4 soldiers in full uniform were aboard.



Really messed up they did this to some kids.

Well the more you read about the israelians and there methods...the more you dislike them...

reply to post by gandalph


Agreed

People quickly forget the 60 million killed by Mao the 40 million killed by Stalin, the Armenian Genocide, the mass rape by Soviet troops of German women from 1945-1991 3 million were raped some as young as 9, The Katyn forest massacre, The Millions killed in this current "war on terror", Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, The Rwandan genocide, attempted genocide of the Aborigines.

The list goes on.. most people seem to think the Holocaust was the only Genocide.

"History is written by the Victors"
to bloody true.

Israel's holocaust pity plea is going to end one day people will get fed up of it. Ironic that they are now commiting Genocide on the Palestinians in an echo of their WW II enemy.

reply to post by Raider of Truth


I have to say that even if you were in high school, your activity was still propaganda at its best.
The brain does not fully develop until between the ages of 25 to 30, and I would bet the farm that your activity was designed to not only heavily impact your brain, but consequently imprint your value system with a certain perspective.
(it is obvious from your remembrance of the survivors and their experiences)

Having children, which high school kids are children, participate in something like this in a public school scenario is just short of child abuse, in my humble opinion.

History is ripe with instances of abuse, torture, and genocide that go completely un-noticed.

If the reality of Nazi Germany was to be acted out and virtually experienced by school children of any age, then you must have Catholic priests somewhere in the mix.

Why not the Pope?
He was a member of the Hitler youth.

Why not show the many Jews, Homosexuals, and Political Prisoners in work camps which were partially owned and operated by Rockefeller, Morgan, and Bush.

Or at the same time we could take all of the Asians in the school and round them up and spray them with talcum powder (you know, like we did with DDT).

And an even better one would be to have one day where all the white people had to pick cotton and all the blacks threw parties and dressed up in clothes made from curtains (you have had to have read Gone With the Wind to get that).

Or no.....

I have it....

We could let the Native Americans feed us rancid meat, infect our clothes with small pox and then "play kill" nearly 70% of the entire population of North America.

The cold hard disturbing truth is that the Zionists yield an inordinate amount of control, and with that control they are using the cause of Judaism to spread their mental disease.
True Torah Jews do not support the policies of the state of Israel and correctly recognize the atrocities of WWII, which are labeled "the holocaust", for the political football that they are.


[edit on 3/11/2010 by Josephus23]

This isn't the first time something like this has happened in the name of teaching the students about the Holocaust.

I wish I had a link providing the story, it's at least a couple of years old now, but it was pretty horrific.

If the teachers can't contain themselves or their stupid ideas, then maybe they shouldn't be teaching. In fact, there's no maybe about it. They SHOULDN'T be teaching.

How did the misguided treatment of school kids getturned into a holocaust
rant anyway?

The way the Holocaust is talked about is as if it was the absolutely the worst thing that happened, and nothing could ever match. Holocaust is an incredible atrocity. But so were countless other atrocities.

Agreed. However perhaps the reason it is seen as such by those involved is that 'It happened to them'. Likewise you would expect Rawandan's to speak of genocide thats happened there in exactly the same way.
Once difference to consider is that while Rawandan genocide was executed
out of an uprising of hate, poverty, currupt warlords among other factors
and occured in a nation far from caring eyes, the holocaust on the otherhand, was executed at the behest of one insane leader given total power, in a cold and indifferent manner via government policy in a developed country, under the noses of its own people.
It was done with disinformation and phsycology, slowly and deliberately
it was premeditated, planned to high degree.
It was acheived not only by murdering anyone who opposed it, but by subterfuge and lies and deceit of the general population.
Herein lies the evilness of it as compared to other attrocities, the physcological impact.
Imagine everyday Americans In the street, turning a blind eye while you and your neighbours were shot in the head by soldiers or loaded into trucks, knowing where you going, men, women and children.

I dont think just learning about such a thing is enough to actually imagine its reality and all that entails. (not talking about children now)
Violence alone (Rawanda) we comprehend, infact we are pretty immune to it these days, desensitized. But open systematic degredation to the level of animals by your own government so that you can be murdered enmass is incomprehensible I think, unless you experienced it first hand.
I think this is what makes the holocaust uniquely horrific among attrocities of history.

reply to post by wayaboveitall


So, are you saying that the situation that we are discussing in WWII is..... hmm......

let me quote you on this "uniquely horrific" compared to ALL of the other similar situations in history or just the genocide in Rwanda?

Do you mean that somehow the WWII holocaust deserves more attention than ALL of the others or...

hmm....

I am lost. Help me out.

What about the allied bombing of Dresden, Germany?

Or the trail of tears?
Or really then entire genocide of the Native Americans.

Or what about when we dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

I remember apartheid in South Africa was pretty bad too.

So how do they stack up?
Do you have some kind of scoring system that you could let me in on?

I am beginning to see the beauty in judging the legitimacy of one massacre over another.

Nobody said anything about 'legitamcy'. 'uniquely horrific' is also subjective ofcourse.
All those you mention are equally horrific in my subjective opinion, but the insidious nature of how the holocaust unfolded, FOR ME, is uniquely horrific, and no doubt for those involved.
I was trying to explain merely my veiw of why the holocaust might be seen as (as somebody put it) worse than all the rest.
My understanding of it, as something so deviously planned and executed, leaving none to oppose it, done with such meticulous detail, seems worse (to me subjectively) than say, the atomic bombing of japan, which atleast , its claimed, as a last resort effort to halt the jap invasion and end the war.
Though its actuality was horrific indeed, it was not long pre-planned (years ahead)with malice intent, based on hatred and a twisted idea of a superrace.
hence though both were horrific, the reason for the holocaust itself and its systematic execution made it uniquely so.

No, im not saying the holocaust 'deserves more attention' (your words) than any other, but certainly that it deserves to be taught and widely understood by future generations, in the hope that nothing like it should ever be allowed to happen again.
Im saying the fact that it looms large in the collective conscience as one of the darkest periods of history is a good thing.

It was not me who made comparisons to other attrocities or had a problem with the holocaust being 'famous' for want of better expression.
I understand that persons point of veiw and was simply trying to express the apparent reason for it.
The thread is about teaching the holocaust, no other attrocities were mentioned because the situation being discussed didnt occur in relation to other attrocities.



[edit on 12-3-2010 by wayaboveitall]

Originally posted by nomorecruelty
Whether the children "learned" anything is of little importance. You could load up a bus of 11 year olds and tour them through Death Row and have a lifer explain to them how he methodically sliced up six victims, boiled them and had skin soup for lunch - and it could be said that they had "learned" something, too.

But they'd also be extremely traumatized. What is wrong with the so called "adults" on this planet?

You know I have a hard believing in things like people from other planets walking amongst us, but after reading this I have to think that maybe there are aliens/fill ins/clones whatever you want to call them.
How could any normal human adult think this was a good thing to do???

Something is definitely wrong with this picture !!!!!

[edit on 12-3-2010 by dnvrliz]

Originally posted by Bildeberg
So what? I still remember when my teacher used to make us play the "beat the immigrant to death with a stick" game!

Now, seriously. The teacher has to be mentally ill to do this type of thing; i personally think that the teacher should go to prison for at least 10 years for traumatizing the poor kids.
The "Holocaust game"... creeps the hell outta me, who in his mental right would play it is beyond my comprehension, i cannot imagine how ill i would feel if i were invited to play it.

Seen objectively, there may be the case that the teacher was sane altogether and wanted to teach the Holocaust to kids, i mean what better way to teach than playing a game about it, i would read a book instead but that´s just me.

Imagine if they were to show images of the Holocaust to the kids.


[edit on 11/3/10 by Bildeberg]

You know there is no way in hell that the teacher came up with this idea. Teachers are not allowed to teach or do anything with the kids unless it is a part of their curriculum, this had to have come from the higher ups.