Time for a U.S. Revolution - Fifteen Reasons

Revolution? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss sums it up. What is voting going to do for you? You know the system is rigged as well as I do. People lauded Scott Brown's election as some kind of victory. He's a Romney pit creation. That's no victory. This year should be the year everyone get's their panties in a bunch and votes Republican. If you think it will accomplish something you are naive.

You want some kind of change? Get a real third party.

I agree a revolution needs to take place. I can not express enough that this cannot be done with violent means at all. If so history is just going to repeat itself. That type of revolution has never worked before and it will not start. The people need to amass a make their voices heard and stop letting the intellectuals stand on their own and in small groups. I'm talking millions in D.C with our own cameras, pirate t.v. and so on and let the entire world know what we are doing and why. The list is long, better now than later before the transition becomes difficult or impossible. I call for 20 years isolationism.

The problem with revolution is that we would become vulnerable to totalitarian takeover. We need a revolution of ideas, with the people deciding that they really do give a . about the country and learn about complicated things like fractional reserve banking and the looting scheme they call foreign aid. We want our country back, maybe not the way it was, but the way it claimed to be. A democracy by the people, of the people, for the people not a big scheme to rob the people. We need for America to wake up, get mad, not too mad but mad enough to take our country back.

I don't think there will be any violent revolution, or violent overthrow of the government. While I agree with the OP, the problem is that the people are generally too ignorant to take care of things at the voting booth.

The rich and corporate interests figured out about 25-30 years ago that the way to maintain power was to ally themselves with the religious right, the 2nd ammendment activists and patriotism itself. And then demonize both progressive liberalism and libertarianism as insane nightmares that had to be stopped.

It has worked very well for them. They always get a good amount of the vote. The ignorant are very easily manipulated. I don't see any signs that it's about to change.



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Revolutions are like bastard children, half improvised and half compromised. Many would call for a revolution, yet do not exhaust all means to do the changes. Unfortunately gone, but not forgotten the days of the buck stops here. Those who are in political power, are often there, cause it is a cushy job. Take a look at the inaguration speechs of the founding fathers, the humility that was there, as they saw it as an honor, and a punishment to be in that position. You want change, well the first thing is that a message needs to be sent, that the mess that was created stops NOW. When you vote, vote someone new in, with the understanding that in 4 years, they do not have a job, that someone else is going to be sitting in that chair, so make the best of it. Politicians need to talk to the people and find out what is on their mind, what the concerns of the public are. I am fortunate enough to actually be old enough to remember the final days when politicians would go out and talk to people, find out what they wanted to know and then work to achieve it. Now days it is all done on the media, and is impersonal. I think that they need to go back to those days. But at the same time it lies with WE THE PEOPLE, to start that change, not with government to ensure that those changes and policies are put into action. I did a bit of checking and was shocked to see that very few states allow for a recall of elected officials. I think that needs to be something of a priority.

I'm all for a peaceful revolution. We know the Federal Reserve must be abolished before this country can be free. It's already collapsing from it's own fraud but it's going to be a real mess. The new world order did all this economic damage to us on purpose. All those involved will need to be punished and all their ill gotten gains taken from them including the very owners of the Federal Reserve who have stolen hundreds of trillions from the people of the planet and caused every war for the last several hundred years at least.

We know from Alex Jones' exposing the Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFR) s that all taxes in this country aren't even needed because they have hidden trillions in off the book accounts and kept raising taxes to break us. When that money is tapped into and all our taxes are completely eliminated the economy of the United States will boom. It will be the biggest economic boom in the history of the planet when Americans are again free from the bankers just like Andrew Jackson did when America had the best economy and strongest dollar in the world!

All money must be taken out of politics. If you are a politician you get your salary and that's it! If you even meet with a lobbyist you will be fired immediately. You are given lie detector tests on a regular basis. We have to vote out all politicians that are in secret societies of any type including the CFR, Bilderbergers, Skull and Bones and even the Masons. If cameras can't record all their meetings then you can be sure that evil is being done there. You can't serve two masters. We were formed as a Godly nation and Godly men don't need to do their dealings in secret.

Next it should be illegal to be a dual citizen and hold any office in this country. Why are there hundreds of dual American Israeli citizens in our government but not one in the Israeli government? Hmmm Again, you can't serve two masters.

We have to also take money out of the police and prison system. Police should only be there to serve us, not to give us tickets and arrest us because it makes their new world order masters more money. People like Cheney should not make money on their prison corporation ownerships. That's a fraud. All prison systems should be taken out of private hands and all ridiculous laws repealed since most were put there to make our "masters" money and take away our freedoms.

All frivolous lawsuits should be stopped by making anybody that sues somebody and loses have to pay all the other persons court cases plus something for their time. That simple change would stop 99% of all the trivial lawsuits.

I agree with strict 2 term limits on every position. We should pay bonuses for any government worker that comes up with ways to cut government spending in any way including getting rid of their own job! All government workers that are no longer needed would be put into the private sector where they would be more useful and add to our GDP.

Finally, all the free energy Tesla type technology must be released from the black holes they are in now. We've had this technology for decades now according to many whistle blowers that have come forward through Project Camelot and others. We could create a paradise on this planet with this technology and it must be fully released. To do that, you're going to have to enlist the help of the white hats that are the good guys in our military and spy agencies. We're tired of the bogus wars for oil that we haven't even needed for decades. It's insane to go to war with people over resources when we already have free energy which means we can grow a lot more food and clean up the planet. The new world order must be fully exposed and defeated so the planet can get its future back. We could be so much more, but we all have to fight every day to expose the frauds of the new world order so we can get the chance to do it right someday.

There will be no revolution for there are no longer any courageous souls alive right now.

Mankind has degenrated into a mass of sheep.

www.yougoggle.com...

If people want a revolution then just have one already. Quit talking about it and just do it.
Let's see how far you get.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher

One big problem (and countless smaller problems) with all these revolution threads.

Who is going to be your targets?

In the original revolution...the target was clear...the English.

In the civil war...the target was clear...Union vs Confederate.

There are no defined "sides" here...just a bunch of radicals (yes...RADICALS), trying to stir up a violent revolution. So who would their targets be??? Probably anyone they thought disagreed with them.

The "Revolution" only works if it is an economic one!

The sides are there, it is the Middle Class against everyone else. The Lower and Poverty classes have to side with whoever feeds them and provides Healthcare. The government and corporations are at the mercy of the masses, but they are experts at getting us to forget that. THE MONEY is what drives everything, and the MONEY COMES FROM THE MIDDLE CLASS!

The Middle Class holds all the cards! We voluntarily give our money to Huge Corporations that we know nothing about. We pay our taxes in so many forms that we don't even realize we are doing it! Income Tax is the least of our worries! Sales Tax, Real Estate Tax, Licensing, Fees, etc., etc.

So, a violent revolution may be coming, but it isn't necessary, nor will it be successful, unless we learn to control our own money!

Yes - SACK THE INCUMBENT - SACK THE INCUMBENT - SACK THE INCUMBENT!
That is very important. Never vote for a sitting politician again. Not now, not ever. Be your own term limiter!

Shop Local! Take your money back from the Corporations and give it to your neighbors!

Take every possible precaution with your taxes. Do not pay a single cent more than you have to. Seek legal advice from an attorney and a CPA. I just learned (not tested yet) that I don't have to supply any documents to the IRS that might incriminate myself (Fifth Amendment)! I will no longer be assisting the IRS in any Audits of myself!

The only thing that stays the same is that EVERYTHING CHANGES!!

Revolution is coming, either politically, economically, or violently, or some combination of all 3. The only question is: 1. will the Middle Class organize and support the lower classes, and take charge and change things for the better with minimal violence, -- OR -- 2. will the Middle Class continue to sit by and be manipulated by the Press and Advertisements and Corporations and Government and let the Lower Class sponge off the Government via our hard work, and will we let it get to the point that only a violent and unpredictable blow up will change things, and possibly change things for the worst with a few Corporations controlling the whole scenario via government and causing us all to be poverty stricken and dependent upon the "goodwill" of the resulting ruling class!

PLEASE ORGANIZE AND PROPAGATE OPTION 1 !!!

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I think that people should know better by now. A revolution won't change anything. History is doomed to repeat itself yes, but only because our species hasn't learned from our own mistakes. What happens after a revolution? All problems are solved and we never have to worry about our countries again? Hardly! It would only be a matter of time before some other selfish asshole makes it to the top and leads the sheeple. I'd have to say I'm against a revolution. Not because I believe things are good the way they are, but because I believe it would cost the lives of many innocent people I love, without accomplishing anything. I think the only chance we have is a shift in our consciousness as people. Our reality isn't actually a reality. It only appears the way it does because of our forced perception of it, which is fed to us in every possible way. People need to wake up and realize who we truly are, and THAT'S what will save us. Well, that's my opinion anyway, I don't mean to throw down any other opinions. Great topic by the way! I think this needs to be talked about in depth because these next few decisions humanity makes are the most important in our history!

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
One big problem (and countless smaller problems) with all these revolution threads.

Who is going to be your targets?

In the original revolution...the target was clear...the English.

In the civil war...the target was clear...Union vs Confederate.

There are no defined "sides" here...just a bunch of radicals (yes...RADICALS), trying to stir up a violent revolution. So who would their targets be??? Probably anyone they thought disagreed with them.


Is it time for a revolution...no...people need to stop being so dramatic and realize that you really don't have it all that bad.

And if there is an attempted revolution...I hope it is thouroughly and quickly squashed by the military. Yes...I truly do hope so. Yes...I would side with the governemnt if a violent revolution uprising started right now. Why? Because there is no consensus or real agreement as to what the REASONS would be for a revolution right now...so yeah...I would stick with what I know...even if it isn't perfect.

[edit on 7-3-2010 by OutKast Searcher]

Did you not read the OP? Everything he said is a reason, and those aren't the only ones. I'm not attacking you; I'm just saying your apathy is discouraging. I think the targets ARE clear. The banksters and crooks in Washington. Much of the military would actually stand with a well organized group whose target would be the wicked politicians. It would be simple, really. A well armed, well trained, and well organized group of militiamen only need to storm D.C. and take the politicians hostage inside the Capitol, and demand new government. There is no need for a huge war across the country. I think the targets are quite clear, and the method to changing this country is clear also. Voting won't work. The system currently established won't help us. We must take the country back by force, in the way that I just described.

I have provided reasons and "targets" multiple times on ATS yet it is fruitless as people will continue to claim that it is ill prepared or lunacy. They ask questions, yet can not handle the answers when they are given.

Too much is the fight to restore our country's independence polarized ourselves and our beliefs. We need to stop arguing over how to get something done and actually start DOING something.

The sheepeople of this country revolt, what a joke. No government in history has ever lost power at the ballot box. The only change in power of any government, through out recorded history, has only come through violent rebellion. You really don't believe that our fellow americans have the intestinal fortitude for that. Turn on American Idol, and wash down your prozac with a big gulp of fluoride and go back to sleep.

I've heard this saying time and time again. The time is now! Ok what next? Sadly I think Americans are too lazy for a revolution.

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
I've heard this saying time and time again. The time is now! Ok what next? Sadly I think Americans are too lazy for a revolution.

We aren't too "lazy." We are just too comfortable still. I am one of the ones saying a Revolution is inevitable, but I was also cleaning my pool, drinking beer with my buddies, and riding motorcycles to Daytona the last two weekends! I am in absolutely no hurry for a revolution, my life is still pretty dam good!!!

Now, my father was talking about me letting my 3 year old pee out in the front yard, and saying how if he does that much longer, he could get a record as a sex offender!! It is true, it happened to a buddy of mine in high school! Don't let this over-zealous government of ours confuse comfort with laziness! Take away one or two "liberties" or corner me or my family in some way, and we will definitely strike back!

Maybe "inevitable" is wrong. They can walk a fine line of forcing us to complain and forcing us to take action. There are a great many people prepared, organized, and willing, but we all still have the hope that the government will exercise restraint and use good judgement in dealing with her masters!

iirc, not all forms of revolution must be violent. It is just a dramatic change in the administration and organizational structure of the governing body. There have been non-violent revolutions in the past. However, the United States is overstepping it's bounds and has been since shortly after WW2. I would agree that a revolution, non-violent or not, is in order.

reply to post by OrphenFire


Yes, I did read the article and no there is no consensus on the issues he listed.

People losing their homes? I bet half of the public believes it is their fault for over extending themselves while the other thinks it is the banks fault for not being more cautious in their lending.

People losing their jobs? We've been in a recession. Even if you believe the inflated numbers by conservatives...unemployment is 20%...so that means 80% of the public wouldn't really want to sacrafice their own job to join a revolution.

Government bailout...anouther roughly 50/50 opinion.

Wall Street bonuses....probably not 50/50...maybe 60% against 40% for (maybe even 70/30)...but they get the money from somewhere...investing on wall street isn't mandatory...people voluntarily give them their money

Lobbyists...although not liked by most of the public...it is not illegal. I bet the people on here that are against the lobbyists aren't against the NRA LOBBYISTS. See...it works both ways.

DOJ letting the illegal torture pass...again, probably 50/50 on who thinks that is right and wrong.

Navy SEAL punching someone in the stomach....again...50/50 issue.

Survelience, Prison population, democrats mad, tea party members mad...none of them are consensus issues.

Even for me...I probably agree with half of the things and disagree with the other half. So what would be the goal of the revolution? It is not time for revolution...it is time for reform.

I think the targets ARE clear. The banksters and crooks in Washington.

What "banksters"? Your local bank teller? The local bank manager? The local bank owner? Wall Street floor traders? Wall Street managers? All of the aboves families? Really...where are the "clear" targets...and where do you draw the line???

It would be simple, really. A well armed, well trained, and well organized group of militiamen only need to storm D.C. and take the politicians hostage inside the Capitol, and demand new government.

Simple? You really don't think that would be "simple"...do you? And you don't think the military would fight against that type of action?

We must take the country back by force, in the way that I just described.

Take our country back from what? From who? Were we invaded? And what are you talking about "we"...you first...be my guest. I am currently not oppressed...like I have asked others before...tell me ONE thing that I can't currently do. Tell me ONE freedom that has been taken away from me in the recent years. Tell me HOW I am so oppressed.

I would like details...no vague concepts that you revolutionaries love to use so much. If you guys are serious about this...it's time to get into specifics.

reply to post by SuperSlovak

"Sadly I think Americans are too lazy for a revolution."


Americans are in a chemically (Anti-depressant,Barium) induced malaise.

Malaise (pronounced /məˈleɪz/, mal-aze) is a feeling of general discomfort or uneasiness, an "out of sorts" feeling, often the first indication of an infection or other disease. Malaise is often defined in medicinal research as a "general feeling of being unwell".

The term is also often used figuratively in other contexts; for example, "economic malaise" refers to an economy that is stagnant or in recession.

I believe that what will happen in the US will be more like the fall of Rome than a revolution.

Something will take out a vital link, whether it is oil, our electrical power grid, or data/communications.

Take out anyone of those, either through natural catastrophe or terroristic acts of man, and it will be a short time before socioeconomic collapse occurs.

It seems that cointel pro has been stirring the pot here, trying to pull violent responses from people.

I have seen many anti-police threads started also anti-military threads all in conjunction with 2 media events.

Im sure these will all be used in conjunction with the new detention bill just introduced. And justify arrests of people just asking questions.

This media blitz will further drive a wedge between police, military and citizens, which seems to be the main goal. This will create an "us vs them" mentality. There has also been a lot of racial propaganda even further dividing a nation.

I would post a thread about this but I cannot im a newer member, can someone get a thread up please?

Im sorry if I am off topic but I cannot post a thread about this.